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#301 darkblue

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 01:16 PM


White Knights, Manginas and Simps, oh my!

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 10:29 AM

Dershowitz-‘If Keith Ellison Is Elected Chairman Of DNC I Will Quit The Democratic Party After 60 Loyal Years’ (VIDEO)

GATEWAY PUNDTI > http://www.thegatewa...al-years-video/

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 11:49 PM

Keith Ellison Stands Head And Shoulders Above Other DNC Candidates At Leadership Debate-

 

"Rep. Ellison had the most forceful arguments and clearest message. The position of DNC chair is also a media job, and Keith Ellison was the most effective candidate on the stage at delivering the message....

 

http://www.politicus...hip-debate.html

 

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Key Question About DNC Race: Why Did Obama White House Recruit Perez to Run Against Ellison?-

 

"...If the plan to sink Ellison succeeds, the message that will be heard — fairly or not — is that the Democratic Party continues to venerate loyalty to its oligarchical donors above all else, and that preventing left-wing influence is a critical goal....

 

https://theintercept...gainst-ellison/


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Posted 24 February 2017 - 09:56 PM

They are going so far left they have even passed Hawaii.


Things are never so bad they can't be made worse.


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Posted 24 February 2017 - 08:13 PM


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Posted 23 February 2017 - 11:49 AM

No room for you, moderate Dems. DNC on the verge of appointing extremist Ellison as chair 

 

We can only hope. Finally, someone who represents something that the people of the nation can hang a little hope on.

 

But it'll just be a start - and the MIC will do everything it can to frighten progressive leaders into doing nothing, just like it frightened Obama.


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Posted 23 February 2017 - 11:45 AM

I love it.  "Extremist"  "Radical fringe"  The right wing paint job has already started.



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Posted 23 February 2017 - 11:14 AM

No room for you, moderate Dems. DNC on the verge of appointing extremist Ellison as chair 

As the Democratic National Committee meets in Atlanta to select its next chairman, the frontrunner for the position — extremist Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn. (F, 26%) — represents the leftist radical fringe’s complete takeover of the party. In a survey of DNC members, Ellison leads his nearest rival with nearly twice the support.

 

CONSERVATIVE REVIEW > https://www.conserva...llison-as-chair

 

HEADED > THE RADICAL LEFT


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Figure a man's only good for one oath at a time; I took mine to the Confederate States of America. The Searchers --
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This most beautiful system of the sun, planets and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being. Isaac Newton  
 
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Genesis 1:2
 
If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under. President Ronald Reagan
 
In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength.  Gen. Robert E. Lee
 
Movies are written in sand: applauded today, forgotten tomorrow. D.W Griffith
 
I would rather wake up in the middle of nowhere than in any city on earth. Steve McQueen
 
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. George Orwell
 
Perfect freedom has no existence. The grown man knows the world he lives in, and for the present, the world is Rome. Ben Hur


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 04:53 PM

Due to a promotion (sort of), there is a state senate seat open in my area.  Eight Republicans and Zero Democrats are running for it.



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Posted 22 February 2017 - 04:39 PM

It looks like the Dems are letting Manchin vote for many of Donny's

cabinet appointments when his vote wouldn't make any difference,

so that they won't hurt him in his reelection. Every two years since

redistricing the Dems put up a sacrificial lamb in the U.S. House race

here, and every year the Dem loses, getting around 40% of the vote.


Curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid get.


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 04:02 PM

Joe Manchin (WV) may be a case in point.

Personally I would like to see the Dems give 'em hell, but I also understand the threat of a "conservative" Dem being replaced by an extremist Republican.

 

My hope is that the Democrats will figure out how to appeal to the majority of people that actually vote in the vast majority of districts.  A symbolic/moral victory is worthless.

 

I don't see the point in giving them hell unless it actually leads to something; E.g. blocks a confirmation,  causes a bill to not pass etc...But yea the GOP sure did that a lot under Obama (e.g. all the bills passed in the House that were blocked by a Senate committee).

 

One job of the leader of the House (in this case Ryan),  is too allow moderate \ RINO GOP members to vote against a bill that advances the GOP agenda when a 'yes' vote isn't necessary for passage and those House members believes doing so is the safe re-election option in their district.  

 

Pelosi of course understands this and while she is the minority leader a similar concept applies to moderate Dems in purple and red states.



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Posted 22 February 2017 - 03:04 PM

Agree.   

 

Note that there is another 'new' liberal \ progressive movement to remove any Dem incumbent that is perceived as not 'doing enough' to stop Trump \  the GOP.    E.g. a Senator that voted to confirm a Trump appointee \ Supreme Court justice or a House member that voted with the GOP majority.

 

As you know this type of movement can backfire in states\districts where the Dem candidate must appeal to moderate and\or independent voters.     In addition often the alternative primary candidate is inexperienced and can come off as a loon.   The Tea-Party ran a few of those candidates and most of them lost elections that the GOP was expected to win.

Joe Manchin (WV) may be a case in point.

Personally I would like to see the Dems give 'em hell, but I also understand the threat of a "conservative" Dem being replaced by an extremist Republican.

 

My hope is that the Democrats will figure out how to appeal to the majority of people that actually vote in the vast majority of districts.  A symbolic/moral victory is worthless.



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Posted 22 February 2017 - 02:19 PM

Cautiously more optimistic.  Still believe Dems are going to have a lot of trouble.

 

Voter turnout will be the issue as it was in Nov. 2016.  GOP had it, Dems didn't in critical places.

Agree with you that many protestors, etc. don't vote.  That was part of the problem in Nov.

 

As for the primaries, in the targeted Red districts, there will probably only be one Dem candidate and no primary.  Or the non-recruited candidate will be so off the wall as to not get more than 20% of primary vote, if that.

I am fearful of the Sanders/Warren/Pelosi type candidates.  They would probably fare poorly in a general election in a Red district.

 

Agree.   

 

Note that there is another 'new' liberal \ progressive movement to remove any Dem incumbent that is perceived as not 'doing enough' to stop Trump \  the GOP.    E.g. a Senator that voted to confirm a Trump appointee \ Supreme Court justice or a House member that voted with the GOP majority.

 

As you know this type of movement can backfire in states\districts where the Dem candidate must appeal to moderate and\or independent voters.     In addition often the alternative primary candidate is inexperienced and can come off as a loon.   The Tea-Party ran a few of those candidates and most of them lost elections that the GOP was expected to win.


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 02:02 PM

Appears you're a lot more optimistic today than you were a few weeks ago as it relates to Dems making gains in 2018 in the US Congress.

 

Like most elections,  but especially mid-term ones,  2018 will depend on voter turnout;   what percentage of the people that are protesting,  writing letters to Congress,   posting on social media etc... that are anti-Trump,  actually vote? 

 

In addition if their Dem primary candidates doesn't win the primary (say they learn-left and support a more liberal Dem in the primary), will they vote for the more moderate Dem in the General or will there be something similar to a Bernie \ Stein effect?

Cautiously more optimistic.  Still believe Dems are going to have a lot of trouble.

 

Voter turnout will be the issue as it was in Nov. 2016.  GOP had it, Dems didn't in critical places.

Agree with you that many protestors, etc. don't vote.  That was part of the problem in Nov.

 

As for the primaries, in the targeted Red districts, there will probably only be one Dem candidate and no primary.  Or the non-recruited candidate will be so off the wall as to not get more than 20% of primary vote, if that.

I am fearful of the Sanders/Warren/Pelosi type candidates.  They would probably fare poorly in a general election in a Red district.



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Posted 22 February 2017 - 01:53 PM

Apparently the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is in process of successfully recruiting hundreds of people to run for Congress against incumbent Republicans, even in Red districts.  These are districts where Dems. have not fielded a candidate in years.

Lots of these districts actually voted for Hillary Clinton or came within a few percent of it.

Of course, all the opposition to the incumbent Republicans and money coming to DCCC are encouraging this.

Add in the harsh treatement many of the incumbent GOPer senators and representatives are finding in their meetings back home.  Some are even walking out of the meetings or refusing to respond to questions.  The people at them are constituents.

 

Maybe Trump, Bannon, et. al will do what Obama did in 2010 - cause the other party to win one if not both houses of Congress.

 

Appears you're a lot more optimistic today than you were a few weeks ago as it relates to Dems making gains in 2018 in the US Congress.

 

Like most elections,  but especially mid-term ones,  2018 will depend on voter turnout;   what percentage of the people that are protesting,  writing letters to Congress,   posting on social media etc... that are anti-Trump,  actually vote? 

 

In addition if their Dem primary candidates doesn't win the primary (say they learn-left and support a more liberal Dem in the primary), will they vote for the more moderate Dem in the General or will there be something similar to a Bernie \ Stein effect?



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Posted 22 February 2017 - 01:33 PM

Apparently the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is in process of successfully recruiting hundreds of people to run for Congress against incumbent Republicans, even in Red districts.  These are districts where Dems. have not fielded a candidate in years.

Lots of these districts actually voted for Hillary Clinton or came within a few percent of it.

Of course, all the opposition to the incumbent Republicans and money coming to DCCC are encouraging this.

Add in the harsh treatement many of the incumbent GOPer senators and representatives are finding in their meetings back home.  Some are even walking out of the meetings or refusing to respond to questions.  The people at them are constituents.

 

Maybe Trump, Bannon, et. al will do what Obama did in 2010 - cause the other party to win one if not both houses of Congress.



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Posted 22 February 2017 - 12:07 PM

Liberal activists warn party’s lawmakers: Primaries are coming
Liberal leaders have a warning for their lawmakers in Washington: Get in line, or else.

Frustrated by the party’s performance on Capitol Hill and emboldened by the mass protests against President Donald Trump, a coalition of progressive groups say they are open to supporting primary challengers next year against Democratic members of the House and Senate – even if many inside the party believe that intra-party races might ultimately only help the Republican Party gain more power.

The organizations, many run by former members of Bernie Sanders’ insurgent presidential campaign, say they haven’t drafted a list of targets just yet. But they vow to recruit, fund and support intra-party challengers if Democratic lawmakers don’t start doing more to oppose the new president and his congressional Republican allies.

McClatchy DC > http://www.mcclatchy...e134227814.html

 

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If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under. President Ronald Reagan
 
In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength.  Gen. Robert E. Lee
 
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Posted 21 February 2017 - 12:05 PM

Democratic Socialists make headway in U.S. after Trump's win

REUTERS > http://www.reuters.c...s-idUSKBN16014M

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And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen. Exodus 33:23

 

Figure a man's only good for one oath at a time; I took mine to the Confederate States of America. The Searchers --
John Wayne
 
This most beautiful system of the sun, planets and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being. Isaac Newton  
 
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Genesis 1:2
 
If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under. President Ronald Reagan
 
In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength.  Gen. Robert E. Lee
 
Movies are written in sand: applauded today, forgotten tomorrow. D.W Griffith
 
I would rather wake up in the middle of nowhere than in any city on earth. Steve McQueen
 
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. George Orwell
 
Perfect freedom has no existence. The grown man knows the world he lives in, and for the present, the world is Rome. Ben Hur


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Posted 19 February 2017 - 05:26 PM

"In the biggest shakeup of the Democratic leadership race in months, New Hampshire Democratic Party Chairman Ray Buckley plans to drop his bid to be the party's national chairman and throw his support behind Minnesota Rep. Keith Ellison,...

 

"While it was a tremendous honor to run for DNC Chair over the past few months, I am proud to throw my support behind Keith so we can ensure that the next Chair of the DNC is dedicated to investing in and strengthening state parties and ensuring that the DNC is an accountable organization," Buckley said in a statement. "As I've talked to the DNC membership, it's clear Keith has widespread support, and I know as our next DNC Chair Keith will successfully unite and grow our party."....

 

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