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#41 TheCid

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 05:39 PM

So Trump told Netanyahu that Israel should "hold back on the settlements". I seem to recall the Trump supporters around here cheering the settlements on when we discussed them a few weeks back. Now that Trump disagrees with them, will they change their minds to match Trump's position?

I thought I heard that Trump said he would support whatever Israel wanted to do, including a one-state solution.



#42 jamesjazzguitar

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 03:05 PM

You are giving him too much credit.  It hasn't even been one month.

 

Well he started changing his tune as soon as he was President Elect (which is where I got the 'few months'.  But I was giving him too much credit since I said 'an entire administration';   I should have made it clear I was talking about a TWO term administration;  (Trump supporters likely assumed I was talking about the administration of William Henry Harrison!).



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 02:53 PM



#44 Bogie56

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 02:27 PM

 

Hey, all President do this (e.g. Obama and the Red-line),  but Trump has done an entire administrations worth of these in a few months!     

 

You are giving him too much credit.  It hasn't even been one month.



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 02:24 PM

So Trump told Netanyahu that Israel should "hold back on the settlements". I seem to recall the Trump supporters around here cheering the settlements on when we discussed them a few weeks back. Now that Trump disagrees with them, will they change their minds to match Trump's position?

 

Don't hold your breath because you'll die from affixation!  

 

Yea, just another example of where Trump's opens his mouth and says something really lame (multiple times in the case of Israel, like moving the US embassy) but once he finally listens to people with some degree of intelligence changes course. 

 

Hey, all President do this (e.g. Obama and the Red-line),  but Trump has done an entire administrations worth of these in a few months!       I can understand that even the advise I gave when he won (ignore the words, focus on the actual policies),  wears thin after sooooo  many flops. 



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 01:52 PM

So Trump told Netanyahu that Israel should "hold back on the settlements". I seem to recall the Trump supporters around here cheering the settlements on when we discussed them a few weeks back. Now that Trump disagrees with them, will they change their minds to match Trump's position?



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Posted 14 February 2017 - 10:40 PM

US new crusise missles

 

http://www.scout.com...-cruise-missile

 

http://www.indiandef...on-nuclear.html

 

 

Long_Range_Stand-Off_%2528LRSO%2529_Crui

 

 

 

And China (they share a border with Russia!) whom I'm more concerned about.

 

http://www.ndtv.com/...issiles-1445923

 

http://www.popsci.co...missiles-zhuhai



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Posted 14 February 2017 - 07:38 PM

"Tuesday that the Russian Federation deployed a new cruise missile in secret, which flies in the face of the 1987 Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, signed at the end of the Cold War by both Russia and the U.S. The treaty bans either country from testing land-based, intermediate-ranged missiles....

 

Russia’s secret deployment of the missile system is a national security crisis for NATO nations, prompting General James Mattis — Trump’s Secretary of Defense — to take an emergency trip to Belgium to discuss the missile with NATO officials:...

 

http://usuncut.com/w...iolates-treaty/

 

& https://www.nytimes....rol-treaty.html


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 04:30 PM

Lock Him Up!

If Hillary had done something like this, the outcry from Republicans, Jake, the Nipper, et. al. would have been deafening.

How many wait staff and others are now on Russian, Chines, Iranian, North Korean or other payrolls?

Not to mention listening/viewing in on the cell phones of staffers.

January 16, 2017

The CIA's war on Trump, continued
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Echoing New York Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer's warning that the intelligence community is out to "get" President-elect Trump, a Brookings Institution expert who served in the Clinton administration says that Trump's treatment of his spies will "come back to bite him" in the form of "devastating" leaks to the media that will make him look foolish or incompetent.


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 08:36 AM

And Trump wanted Hillary locked up for potentially putting security at risk ...

Trump turns Mar-a-Lago Club terrace into open-air situation room

https://www.washingt...75fc_story.html

It was Saturday night, and Palm Beach’s tony Mar-a-Lago Club was packed. There was a wedding reception in the ballroom. There was a full house for dinner on the terrace.

And at one table on the terrace, there was the president and the leader of a major U.S. ally, hashing out a national security problem in the open air.

As Weitzman and other patrons watched Saturday evening, Trump and Abe remained at the table and discussed their response to a ballistic missile test by North Korea. While waiters came and went — and while one club member snapped photos — the two leaders reviewed documents by the light of an aide’s cellphone.

Lock Him Up!

If Hillary had done something like this, the outcry from Republicans, Jake, the Nipper, et. al. would have been deafening.

How many wait staff and others are now on Russian, Chines, Iranian, North Korean or other payrolls?

Not to mention listening/viewing in on the cell phones of staffers.


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 04:15 AM

And Trump wanted Hillary locked up for potentially putting security at risk ...

Trump turns Mar-a-Lago Club terrace into open-air situation room

https://www.washingt...75fc_story.html

It was Saturday night, and Palm Beach’s tony Mar-a-Lago Club was packed. There was a wedding reception in the ballroom. There was a full house for dinner on the terrace.

And at one table on the terrace, there was the president and the leader of a major U.S. ally, hashing out a national security problem in the open air.

As Weitzman and other patrons watched Saturday evening, Trump and Abe remained at the table and discussed their response to a ballistic missile test by North Korea. While waiters came and went — and while one club member snapped photos — the two leaders reviewed documents by the light of an aide’s cellphone.


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Posted 11 February 2017 - 06:10 PM

As Tensions Rise, Steve Bannon and ISIS Get Closer to Their Common Goal: Civilizational War-

 

" When Trump ran a campaign built on promises to destroy ISIS, how can one explain the fact that supporters of the group in Mosul were reportedly celebrating his Muslim ban?....

 

..to divide Americans from millions of people in the Muslim world by sending the latter a message of gratuitous insult and contempt — and emboldening the very extremist movements the order was ostensibly directed against.

 

That kind of polarization may be exactly what some members of the White House want. High-ranking members of the current administration — most notably its chief strategist, Steve Bannon — have publicly espoused apocalyptic theories of history that center on a forthcoming clash between Western countries and the Muslim world, a conflict that many of them seem to perceive as both inevitable and desirable....

 

A 2014 speech that Bannon delivered to an audience at the Vatican...called for a revival of the tradition of the “church militant,” describing a vague yet apocalyptic threat he claims that Western countries face from both “Islamic jihadist fascism” and their own loss of religious faith....

 

...it will take a rejection of the logic of revenge and collective blame on both sides to prevent the apocalyptic visions of extremists from becoming reality.

 

https://theintercept...lizational-war/

 

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 04:24 PM

Russia Considers Returning Snowden to U.S. as a GIFT to ‘Curry Favor’ With Trump:

http://www.nbcnews.c...fficial-n718921


Well it's after Christmas but what the heck. :P

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The last time the Russians returned us an American Jerk,
it was Lee Harvey Oswald.

Maybe Snowden should have gone on to China like his original plan.

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 04:22 PM

Newspaper Runs Photo Of Alec Baldwin Instead Of Donald Trump

http://www.huffingto...sa80jvzgz4zpvi


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Wasn't it Marvin Gaye who sang that song--


"Ain't Nothing Like The Real Thing, Baby"? LOL

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 03:34 PM

Newspaper Runs Photo Of Alec Baldwin Instead Of Donald Trump

 

http://www.huffingto...sa80jvzgz4zpvi

 

 

20170211_trump1_0.jpg


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Posted 11 February 2017 - 03:02 PM

China U-turn is latest sign Trump may turn out to be a paper tiger

 

Is Trump learning on the job? Or is he just a bully who backs off when he encounters resistance? Given his volatility and unpredictability, it is possible he could reverse himself again on key policies, reverting to his more radical and destabilising ideas. So far, the responsibilities of office, and the complexities of the issues, do seem to be weighing more heavily on Trump’s outlook. Other national leaders and more experienced advisers like Mattis are exerting influence. And Trump, in office, is coming up against a sobering reality that faces all American leaders sooner or later: the limits of presidential power.

 

 

 

https://www.theguard...e-a-paper-tiger

 

 

New sheriff in town starting to use a cap pistol?



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 11:02 PM

Russia Considers Returning Snowden to U.S. as a GIFT to ‘Curry Favor’ With Trump:

 

http://www.nbcnews.c...fficial-n718921

 

 

Well it's after Christmas but what the heck. :P

 

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 11:54 AM

It appears Flynn was not only in touch with the Russians while Obama was still president but that they discussed the sanctions as well.  I do hope that this is fully investigated.

It looks like Flynn lied about all of this and Pence backed him up too.


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 01:32 AM

why should trump extend START?

 

mr6666, I appreciate that you doan believe in the maintaining of peace through a strong military deterrence but peace through BS diplomacy is sesame street foolishness.

 

Because 1500 nuclear warheads each are still more than enough to destroy the entire planet.  Meanwhile people are living in poverty.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 10:13 PM

"On a phone call with his role model and possible puppet master Vladimir Putin, dictator of the Russian Federation, Putin reportedly asked whether Trump would be interested in extending the 2010 New START Treaty, which sets limits for the size of standing strategic nuclear weapons forces.

 

Trump then paused the call to ask his aides what START was, according to Reuters.

 

He then proceeded to complain that the Obama-negotiated treaty was a “bad deal” that favored Russia and told Putin about how popular he was among Americans. Neither of those things are true.

 

START mandates that both the United States and the Russian Federation reduce their standing number of strategic warheads to 1,550 by February 2018 and sets limits for delivery systems like missiles and bombers.

 

Trump’s stubborn and narcissistic confidence in his obviously deficient mental faculties is a very serious problem, not to mention an embarrassment. If the START treaty is not extended, we could be looking at yet another nuclear arms race and even more squandered billions on weapons we don’t need.....

 

http://occupydemocra...-question-ever/

why should trump extend START?

 

mr6666, I appreciate that you doan believe in the maintaining of peace through a strong military deterrence but peace through BS diplomacy is sesame street foolishness.


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