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Martin Scorsese: 'Cinema is gone'


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#21 Sepiatone

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Posted 22 December 2016 - 08:56 AM

  No offence, but you guysreally took me baswck t these tioi.article. Hre's akmost a **** to earn his 9th bD nomninastionfor:Silence" & for those that out himdownfirawys

 

9NOTR:Beside' my ever decresing helth &hed trauma my friends, my new comuter isiw startngupo withsoethig. Main reasoinfir allthe cleruical screw-upsonhere & atopicI sure wuldlike to join in on!?

 

 

Have yiu seen :The lastWalt:"Age ofInnocence: "{Alice Doiesn't Live Here Anyre:&others tet>

 

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Posted 22 December 2016 - 03:36 AM

So him doing a remake of a 1966 novel is more ambitious than others doing an adaptation of a 1966 comic book? I don't think so.

 

 

The comic-book phase at the moment is almost IDENTICAL (and has almost the exact same people to blame) as the CGI Animated bubble of the early-mid '00's:

Nobody understood why Pixar was ruling the box office--namely by making good movies, with some actual care and emotional involvement in the scripting--but imitators like Dreamworks thought if they just got themselves a bunch of computers, they could do the CGI thing, and have power over the audience, too!

As a result, we were drowned up to our eyeballs in bad, charmless, cynically made CGI, the genre became dead-in-the-water at the box office, and people groaned that they "hated CGI movies" while they went back to see Pixar and WDFA.  

What they meant was, they hated the bad ones, that were made with the technical ingredients, but not the care.

 

Similarly, when people say they're "tired of comic-book movies", they usually say it after a Warner or Fox movie.  They don't usually say it after the Marvel movies made with actual care and emotional involvement made by Disney/Marvel, they usually say it after some dreary or punishing rival-franchise Batman or X-Men movie that saw only the five-year-plan franchise strategies, and tried to imitate that.

And then they went back to see Civil War again.

 

The difference, of course, is that each Pixar was one movie, not a strategy of five or seven movies.


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Posted 22 December 2016 - 01:13 AM

So him doing a remake of a 1966 novel is more ambitious than others doing an adaptation of a 1966 comic book? I don't think so.

 

Cinema is gone due to a lack of originality, just as his movie is equivalent to many other clone movies being released today. I'm sure its going to do well though, and his greedy investors will make a lot of money.


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Posted 21 December 2016 - 05:25 PM

Can't argue with himJake.  A lot of us in here have been making the same gripe lately.

 

On my blog, I always to place the historical cutoff date at which point studios stopped looking for original scripts and started selling marketing "franchises"--
Where every hit movie was now a brand name, and movies were treated as bulk-serial episodes of hit TV series, where we were told to "Tune in next year, same Bat-month, same Bat-theater!"

 

Don't think it was just Marvel that Caused It, I'd go all the way back to the Great Screenwriter Bubble of 1988-91:

When studios tried hitch their wagons to hit action-movie screenwriters who could produce new original blockbusters on demand, causing a literal bidding-war of one-upmanship between Pen Densham, Shane Black and Joe Eszterhas, to see who could get the record-breaking highest price for "Prince of Thieves", "Basic Instinct" and "The Last Boy Scout".

When "Last Action Hero" finally popped the Bubble (like tulips and mortgage-derivatives, that's what happens when dreams push the price up too far...), studios began looking at ways they could start writing the Screenwriter out of the equation, since they were becoming the second-most expensive item after the already-expensive A-list star and CGI.

 

The by-product was, studios could now only afford to make movies audiences knew already, since you didn't need to hire anyone to risk profits by making up an unknown story--

When you see a teaser poster nowadays, the "tease" is a logo or character you already know, and the "sell" is, it's back again!

 

(I don't think that Marty's Asiaphilic remake of "The Mission" is going to rescue movies singlehandedly, but it would have been nice to see that alternate universe where enough voters had actually seen "Hugo" for it to win the Best Picture Oscar...)


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Posted 21 December 2016 - 05:14 PM

  No offence, but you guysreally took me baswck t these tioi.article. Hre's akmost a **** to earn his 9th bD nomninastionfor:Silence" & for those that out himdownfirawys

 

9NOTR:Beside' my ever decresing helth &hed trauma my friends, my new comuter isiw startngupo withsoethig. Main reasoinfir allthe cleruical screw-upsonhere & atopicI sure wuldlike to join in on!?

 

 

Have yiu seen :The lastWalt:"Age ofInnocence: "{Alice Doiesn't Live Here Anyre:&others tet>

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 10:44 AM

  No offence, but you guysreally took me baswck t these tioi.article. Hre's akmost a **** to earn his 9th bD nomninastionfor:Silence" & for those that out himdownfirawys

 

9NOTR:Beside' my ever decresing helth &hed trauma my friends, my new comuter isiw startngupo withsoethig. Main reasoinfir allthe cleruical screw-upsonhere & atopicI sure wuldlike to join in on!?

 

 

Have yiu seen :The lastWalt:"Age ofInnocence: "{Alice Doiesn't Live Here Anyre:&others tet>



#27 Sepiatone

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 09:04 AM

Can't argue with himJake.  A lot of us in here have been making the same gripe lately.

 

I do wonder however, if he'll make a movie about his nephew's breaking and entering experience?

 

 

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 11:20 PM

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By JAKE COYLE
AP Film Writer

 

It wasn't easy. Scorsese, 74, may be among the most revered directors in Hollywood, but "Silence" is almost the antithesis of today's studio film. To make it Scorsese had to drum up foreign money in Cannes and ultimately made the film for about $46 million. Everyone, including himself, worked for scale.

Few today are making movies with the scope and ambition of "Silence" - a fact, he grants, that makes him feel like one of the last of a dying breed in today's film industry.

"Cinema is gone," Scorsese says. "The cinema I grew up with and that I'm making, it's gone."

"The theater will always be there for that communal experience, there's no doubt. But what kind of experience is it going to be?" he continues. "Is it always going to be a theme-park movie? I sound like an old man, which I am. The big screen for us in the '50s, you go from Westerns to 'Lawrence of Arabia' to the special experience of '2001' in 1968. The experience of seeing 'Vertigo' and 'The Searchers' in VistaVision."

Scorsese points to the proliferation of images and the overreliance on superficial techniques as trends that have diminished the power of cinema to younger audiences. "It should matter to your life," he says. "Unfortunately the latest generations don't know that it mattered so much."

 

AP >> http://hosted.ap.org...-12-20-17-45-42


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