We're excited to present a great new set of boards to classic movie fans with tons of new features, stability, and performance.

If you’re new to the message boards, please “Register” to get started. If you want to learn more about the new boards, visit our FAQ.

Register

If you're a returning member, start by resetting your password to claim your old display name using your email address.

Re-Register

Thanks for your continued support of the TCM Message Boards.

X

Kyle Kersten was a true friend of TCM. One of the first and most active participants of the Message Boards, “Kyle in Hollywood” (aka, hlywdkjk) demonstrated a depth of knowledge and largesse of spirit that made him one of the most popular and respected voices in these forums. This thread is a living memorial to his life and love of movies, which remain with us still.

X

Jump to content


Photo

GOP madness Unbound...


  • Please log in to reply
174 replies to this topic

#41 Sepiatone

Sepiatone

    Enhanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 12,084 posts
  • LocationLincoln Park, MI

Posted 25 July 2017 - 07:50 AM

I GOT it!

 

Trump's desire for peaceful and friendly relations with Russia might be because it's one of the FEW Eastern European nations he HASN'T yet acquired a TROPHY WIFE from.  He's just keeping his options open.  :)

 

 

Sepiatone


  • TheCid likes this

I started out with NOTHING...and still have most of it left!


#42 Princess of Tap

Princess of Tap

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 11,276 posts

Posted 25 July 2017 - 06:38 AM


45]MSNBC_Headshot_bigger.jpgChristopher HayesVerified account @chrislhayes


More



How bad does a piece of legislation have to be that it can't survive a week delay while your colleague w/ brain cancer recovers?

  • TheCid likes this

#43 Bogie56

Bogie56

    Prof. Knucklehead

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 11,063 posts
  • LocationTralfamadore

Posted 23 July 2017 - 04:31 PM

What Trump’s Putin Love Reveals About Conservatives-

 

"Some American conservatives have a deep affinity for authoritarianism and an even deeper distrust of modern Western culture.

 

"....Republicans now seem perfectly content with the Russians having attempted to subvert our democratic process, something that not all that long ago would have sent them into a rage.

 

This isn’t necessarily because these Republicans think no such interference occurred, despite the proof that it did. It is because they revere what Putin represents more than they revere their own democracy....

 

conservatives have a deep affinity for authoritarianism and an even deeper distrust of modern Western culture. When it comes down to it, their lament, as captured in surveys, is that America isn’t more like Russia....

 

...many of your fellow Americans subscribe to the philosophy of a ruthless, murderous, lying, kleptocratic, illiberal potentate who runs the largest criminal organization in the history of the world. And if that doesn’t scare you, this will: These same people, although thankfully still a minority, run the country now.

 

That’s why Russia love matters....

 

“President Reagan once called the old Soviet Empire ‘the focus of evil in the modern world.’ President Putin is implying that Barack Obama’s America may deserve the title in the 21st century.”.......

 

..(the old) Republican anti-communism was always a hoax — an insincere political ploy to woo Americans fearful of Russian hegemony in an anxious postwar world and get them to turn on Democrats....

It was never anti-communism that made those Republican hearts palpitate. It was the hatred of liberalism...

...the fact that conservatives are alright with Putin subverting our democracy so long as the autocrat reviles liberal values......

 

http://billmoyers.co...a-on-the-volga/

 

 

Bill Moyers is spot on again.  This could be based on one of the Trump supporters in this forum.  Why on earth anyone would want to live under an authoritarian regime is beyond me.  Things are stacked against us as it is.


  • mr6666 likes this

#44 mr6666

mr6666

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 19,364 posts

Posted 23 July 2017 - 04:00 PM

What Trump’s Putin Love Reveals About Conservatives-

 

"Some American conservatives have a deep affinity for authoritarianism and an even deeper distrust of modern Western culture.

 

"....Republicans now seem perfectly content with the Russians having attempted to subvert our democratic process, something that not all that long ago would have sent them into a rage.

 

This isn’t necessarily because these Republicans think no such interference occurred, despite the proof that it did. It is because they revere what Putin represents more than they revere their own democracy....

 

conservatives have a deep affinity for authoritarianism and an even deeper distrust of modern Western culture. When it comes down to it, their lament, as captured in surveys, is that America isn’t more like Russia....

 

...many of your fellow Americans subscribe to the philosophy of a ruthless, murderous, lying, kleptocratic, illiberal potentate who runs the largest criminal organization in the history of the world. And if that doesn’t scare you, this will: These same people, although thankfully still a minority, run the country now.

 

That’s why Russia love matters....

 

“President Reagan once called the old Soviet Empire ‘the focus of evil in the modern world.’ President Putin is implying that Barack Obama’s America may deserve the title in the 21st century.”.......

 

..(the old) Republican anti-communism was always a hoax — an insincere political ploy to woo Americans fearful of Russian hegemony in an anxious postwar world and get them to turn on Democrats....

It was never anti-communism that made those Republican hearts palpitate. It was the hatred of liberalism...

...the fact that conservatives are alright with Putin subverting our democracy so long as the autocrat reviles liberal values......

 

http://billmoyers.co...a-on-the-volga/

 

 


  • Bogie56 likes this

"A small elephant is not a rabbit."


#45 mr6666

mr6666

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 19,364 posts

Posted 23 July 2017 - 03:44 PM

The GOP= The Gutless Old Party

 

True enough,

but, for now, MSM & Dems seem  to collude also.....all for $$$$ from ratings and increases to campaign coffers.

 

Where's the OUTRAGE and sincere calls for Impeachment??

 

<_< :blink:


"A small elephant is not a rabbit."


#46 Princess of Tap

Princess of Tap

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 11,276 posts

Posted 23 July 2017 - 01:16 PM


45]
v4AxUdkr_bigger.jpgRichard W. Painter@RWPUSA
More



Jeb Bush calls out Republicans silent on Trump's Russia probe. Any other adults in the room?

The GOP= The Gutless Old Party
  • mr6666 likes this

#47 Princess of Tap

Princess of Tap

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 11,276 posts

Posted 21 July 2017 - 05:51 AM


45]um0XDREU_bigger.jpgFrank RichVerified account @frankrichny


More



It’s certain that Trump will fire Mueller. Let’s not pretend otherwise. The question is who in the GOP will protest. Likely answer: no one.


#48 NipkowDisc

NipkowDisc

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 11,812 posts
  • Locationzaygon hegemony

Posted 20 July 2017 - 12:01 PM

That's Un-American, Unconstitutional and Deplorably Stupid.

not really. they're just reacting to the blatant desire of the msm to nail trump since being sworn in. :P  :D


"okay, so we're moving right along, folks" -al pacino, dog day afternoon


#49 Princess of Tap

Princess of Tap

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 11,276 posts

Posted 20 July 2017 - 11:50 AM


45]g4QmmkRQ_bigger.jpgThe HillVerified account @thehill


More



Poll: 77 percent of Trump voters say Trump should stay in office even if collusion is proven http://hill.cm/5PzV9OA

DFHi5kBXcAAowvi.jpg

That's Un-American, Unconstitutional and Deplorably Stupid.

#50 Princess of Tap

Princess of Tap

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 11,276 posts

Posted 20 July 2017 - 03:17 AM


45]GJ8zcy-z_bigger.jpgJohn HarwoodVerified account @JohnJHarwood


More



president says votes of non-citizens cancel out votes of lawful American citizens - something evidence suggests happens almost never

Trump has been listening to Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach; this is one of his old arguments.

Unfortunately at this time, Kobach is under investigation by the Kansas Supreme Court's Office of Disciplinary Administration after a complaint was filed by a Kansas college student, who alleges that Kobach has a lack of respect for the courts--leading to ethical questions about his behavior as an attorney.

Kobach was fined $1,000 in US Magistrate Court last month because of "deceptive conduct and lack of candor" concerning a document--that Kobach was photographed carrying into a meeting with Donald Trump-- reportedly about proposed changes in the federal voting law.

Kobach denied he had any such document, after the ACLU took him to the court to obtain the alleged document.

In addition to being Kansas Secretary of State, Kobach is currently the Vice-Chair of the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity. Also, he is an announced candidate for Kansas Governor on the Republican ticket.


Source: The Kansas City Star, 7/17/17


  • mr6666 likes this

#51 mr6666

mr6666

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 19,364 posts

Posted 19 July 2017 - 06:10 PM

"....both sneaky and undemocratic, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) waited until after midnight to strip an amendment with bipartisan support from the 2018 defense authorization bill without debate, a floor vote or consultation with anyone but the Republican leadership, which was a huge favor to President Trump....

 

http://washingtonjou...rrifying-favor/

 

-Why, AGAIN in the dead of night??

:blink: :ph34r:


  • Bogie56 likes this

"A small elephant is not a rabbit."


#52 mr6666

mr6666

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 19,364 posts

Posted 19 July 2017 - 03:50 PM

Mitch McConnell Has Run Out of Excuses for Not Accomplishing Anything...

 

 

.........After three unsuccessful cycles, McConnell finally took back the upper chamber in 2014, but still did no governing, operating instead as an opposition party would in a parliamentary system. Just how ingrained that thinking was came through in a revealing comment from House Speaker Paul Ryan after his failure to repeal the Affordable Care Act. “Moving from an opposition party to a governing party comes with some growing pains,”........

 

 

https://theintercept...shing-anything/

 

:rolleyes:


"A small elephant is not a rabbit."


#53 Sepiatone

Sepiatone

    Enhanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 12,084 posts
  • LocationLincoln Park, MI

Posted 19 July 2017 - 07:22 AM

Yea, clearly many Republicans care more about the implementation of their agenda more than how they get to power.  But is that any different then the Dems?   

 

The major difference between republicans and democrats is usually found in the VOTERS.  When it comes to POLITICIANS though, asking what's the difference between a republican and a democrat is like asking, "What's the difference between a POLECAT and a SKUNK?"

 

Sepiatone


I started out with NOTHING...and still have most of it left!


#54 Princess of Tap

Princess of Tap

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 11,276 posts

Posted 19 July 2017 - 04:21 AM


45]OPSbZmml_bigger.jpgDan ZakVerified account @MrDanZak


More



Jerry Moran (R-Kan.) jumps the Senate subway tracks today to get away from reporters. Photo by @andyharnik for @AP. https://instagram.com/p/BWsi01cFEEa/

DFCLaBfWAAEU3XF.jpg

And this man is in a hurry to get back to Western Kansas--

#55 Princess of Tap

Princess of Tap

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 11,276 posts

Posted 19 July 2017 - 12:40 AM


45]DJRE8wGp_bigger.jpgShareblueVerified account @Shareblue


More



GOP spending at Trump properties is up 200% since he took office http://shareblue.com/gop-spending-on-trump-properties-is-up-nearly-200/ By @owillis

DFEXalxUIAQ3m2n.jpg


#56 mr6666

mr6666

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 19,364 posts

Posted 17 July 2017 - 03:19 PM

The Lost History of How “Civil Rights Plus Full Employment Equals Freedom”-

 

"...“The Full Employment Mandate of the Federal Reserve: Its Origins and Importance” ....– it’s a history of the economic policies of the civil rights movement, the movement’s focus on capturing the Fed’s power to generate full employment, how they partially succeeded, and why we have to fight right now to preserve their accomplishments........

 

"....The Fed largely sets short term interest rates. If it lowers interest rates it heats up the economy, because cheap money makes it easier for entrepreneurs to start new businesses, for old businesses to expand, and for everyone to borrow to buy expensive stuff like homes or cars. That in turn generates new jobs and lowers the unemployment rate. And low unemployment takes leverage away from employers and gives it to employees, making it far, far easier for everyone to

get raises and demand decent working conditions.

 

Meanwhile, the 0.1 percent who actually own and operate the country generally do not want full employment —

 

 

...Mike Pence, Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, and Trump’s Director of the Office of Management and Budget Mick Mulvaney have all supported attempts to kill the full employment part of the Fed’s mandate. And Pence co-sponsored a 2008 bill to eliminate the Full Employment Act completely.

 

Less awful but still dangerous is the Financial CHOICE Act, which passed the House a month ago. While the headlines were about the bill gutting the Dodd-Frank Act’s restrictions on Wall Street, it also would impose strict rules that would limit the Fed’s freedom of action in economic emergencies, and change its structure in ways that would give private banks more influence.

 

So gather all your people together, share “The Full Employment Mandate of the Federal Reserve” everywhere, and get started with some economic consciousness raising. The few would far prefer that U.S. politics maintain its four decades of discreet silence about the Fed.....

 

https://theintercept...equals-freedom/


"A small elephant is not a rabbit."


#57 jamesjazzguitar

jamesjazzguitar

    There is nothing as bad as something not so bad

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 18,235 posts
  • LocationCalifornia

Posted 16 July 2017 - 04:23 PM

Of course they won't change, Cid. And ya know why "they won't change"?

 

It's because most of 'em are just smart enough to have learned that voting for "the lesser of two evils", at least "the lesser of the two evils" as THEY saw and see it, continues to win them elections.

 

And whereas of course, so many of those "oh so highly principled"(and say this sarcastically) Democrats will so often sit on their hands come election time IF the candidate THEIR party presents to them isn't of their liking.

 

Yep, works every damn time, doesn't it. And so why SHOULD Republicans do "anything to change", I ask you. Hell, perhaps the concept of "winning" is and has always been even MORE ingrained within the American psyche than any thought about "morality" or the lack of it.

 

(...ah, but like you just said about this lady's Washington Post article, what I just stated here ALSO "summarizes many of the things most of us have been saying on this site for months" TOO, huh!)

 

Yea, clearly many Republicans care more about the implementation of their agenda more than how they get to power.  But is that any different then the Dems?    The leaders of the DNC didn't care about fairness as it related to Sanders;  As soon as they saw he was making ground on the person they felt had to be the next President, Hillary,  they did immoral things. 

 

I believe you're on to something that winning at any cost is a core American value.   In many ways America is the richest nation in the world because of this.  


  • Dargo likes this

#58 Dargo

Dargo

    An "Acquired Taste"

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 13,053 posts
  • LocationSedona, Arizona

Posted 16 July 2017 - 04:03 PM

This summarizes many of the things most of us have been saying on this site for months.  The true tragedy for America is that the Republican Party and its adherents and voters will never accept this.  Nor will they do anything to change.

 

Please note, as has been stated, Ms. Rubin is a CONSERVATIVE.

Everyone needs to read this conservative's view of the current status.

 

Of course they won't change, Cid. And ya know why "they won't change"?

 

It's because most of 'em are just smart enough to have learned that voting for "the lesser of two evils", at least "the lesser of the two evils" as THEY saw and see it, continues to win them elections.

 

And whereas of course, so many of those "oh so highly principled"(and say this sarcastically) Democrats will so often sit on their hands come election time IF the candidate THEIR party presents to them isn't of their liking.

 

Yep, works every damn time, doesn't it. And so why SHOULD Republicans do "anything to change", I ask you. Hell, perhaps the concept of "winning" is and has always been even MORE ingrained within the American psyche than any thought about "morality" or the lack of it.

 

(...ah, but like you just said about this lady's Washington Post article, what I just stated here ALSO "summarizes many of the things most of us have been saying on this site for months" TOO, huh!)


  • TheCid likes this

#59 mr6666

mr6666

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 19,364 posts

Posted 16 July 2017 - 03:24 PM

WHAT TRUMP LEARNED FROM P.T. BARNUM-  

Trump Bet Americans Would Like His Un-Presidential Antics. He May Be Right.

 

"....Trump makes no bones about being a hustler. He is shameless. Some people admire that. The Republicans, for their part, give lip service to virtue and are as self-righteous as they come, but everyone knows they are really about gaming the system, too. This is America the Deceitful. And many Americans like it, I presume because it seems to let them thumb their noses at their supposed social betters, just as Trump has done.

 

So, while people bemoan the end of moral certitude and a lost halcyon past, Trump the trickster and his Republican henchmen are creating a new America adrift in moral chaos....

 

Trump has gambled that many Americans would enjoy his unpresidential, con-man antics. He hasn’t entirely won that gamble. Most Americans don’t. But there are enough who do, especially among Republicans, to let him wreak havoc. After all those years of our hearing Algeresque bromides, President Barnum is now in charge, and he is working hard to reveal America as one great big con game."

 

http://billmoyers.co...rned-pt-barnum/


  • TheCid and Princess of Tap like this

"A small elephant is not a rabbit."


#60 TheCid

TheCid

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 5,723 posts
  • LocationSouth Carolina

Posted 16 July 2017 - 08:41 AM

 

This is the best article I have read on the election.  It is alarming.  From the Washington Post.

 

https://www.washingt...st-draw5&wpmm=1

 

Right Turn •  Opinion The GOP’s moral rot is the problem, not Donald Trump Jr. That's ultimately what gave us President Trump. By Jennifer Rubin  •  Read more »

 

This summarizes many of the things most of us have been saying on this site for months.  The true tragedy for America is that the Republican Party and its adherents and voters will never accept this.  Nor will they do anything to change.

 

Please note, as has been stated, Ms. Rubin is a CONSERVATIVE.

Everyone needs to read this conservative's view of the current status.






0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users