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Trump Is Not a Legitimate President

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#81 NipkowDisc

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 01:27 PM

This is a must read for everyone ...

https://medium.com/@...91d5#.mu6k3tbua

 

Trial Balloon for a Coup? Analyzing the news of the past 24 hours

(5) On Inauguration Day, Trump apparently filed his candidacy for 2020. Beyond being unusual, this opens up the ability for him to start accepting “campaign contributions” right away. Given that a sizable fraction of the campaign funds from the previous cycle were paid directly to the Trump organization in exchange for building leases, etc., at inflated rates, you can assume that those campaign coffers are a mechanism by which US nationals can easily give cash bribes directly to Trump. Non-US nationals can, of course, continue to use Trump’s hotels and other businesses as a way to funnel money to him.

(6) Finally, I want to highlight a story that many people haven’t noticed. On Wednesday, Reuters reported (in great detail) how 19.5% of Rosneft, Russia’s state oil company, has been sold to parties unknown. This was done through a dizzying array of shell companies, so that the most that can be said with certainty now is that the money “paying” for it was originally loaned out to the shell layers by VTB (the government’s official bank), even though it’s highly unclear who, if anyone, would be paying that loan back; and the recipients have been traced as far as some Cayman Islands shell companies.

Why is this interesting? Because the much-maligned Steele Dossier (the one with the golden showers in it) included the statement that Putin had offered Trump 19% of Rosneft if he became president and removed sanctions. The reason this is so interesting is that the dossier said this in July, and the sale didn’t happen until early December. And 19.5% sounds an awful lot like “19% plus a brokerage commission.”

Conclusive? No. But it raises some very interesting questions for journalists to investigate.

Bogie56, but there is this little road block...

 

many will ask do they want pence?

 

end of story. :lol:


"okay, so we're moving right along, folks" -al pacino, dog day afternoon


#82 NipkowDisc

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 01:25 PM

but no matter what donald trump won the presidency fair and square.

 

the mainstream media acts like the 2.8 million more in the popular vote for hillary equates to nobody supports trump.

 

what the hell kinda journalistic honesty never mind integrity is that?

 

simple, they're liberals too!

 

and white middle america has understood that for 50 years now.


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Posted 30 January 2017 - 11:38 AM

This is a must read for everyone ...

https://medium.com/@...91d5#.mu6k3tbua

 

Trial Balloon for a Coup? Analyzing the news of the past 24 hours

(5) On Inauguration Day, Trump apparently filed his candidacy for 2020. Beyond being unusual, this opens up the ability for him to start accepting “campaign contributions” right away. Given that a sizable fraction of the campaign funds from the previous cycle were paid directly to the Trump organization in exchange for building leases, etc., at inflated rates, you can assume that those campaign coffers are a mechanism by which US nationals can easily give cash bribes directly to Trump. Non-US nationals can, of course, continue to use Trump’s hotels and other businesses as a way to funnel money to him.

(6) Finally, I want to highlight a story that many people haven’t noticed. On Wednesday, Reuters reported (in great detail) how 19.5% of Rosneft, Russia’s state oil company, has been sold to parties unknown. This was done through a dizzying array of shell companies, so that the most that can be said with certainty now is that the money “paying” for it was originally loaned out to the shell layers by VTB (the government’s official bank), even though it’s highly unclear who, if anyone, would be paying that loan back; and the recipients have been traced as far as some Cayman Islands shell companies.

Why is this interesting? Because the much-maligned Steele Dossier (the one with the golden showers in it) included the statement that Putin had offered Trump 19% of Rosneft if he became president and removed sanctions. The reason this is so interesting is that the dossier said this in July, and the sale didn’t happen until early December. And 19.5% sounds an awful lot like “19% plus a brokerage commission.”

Conclusive? No. But it raises some very interesting questions for journalists to investigate.


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Posted 28 January 2017 - 09:07 AM

I wonder how many of NYCs homeless he lets in to sleep on his living room floor...floors. :D



And I wonder how many homeless people sleep at Trump Tower in New York City?

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Posted 28 January 2017 - 07:36 AM

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But not quite so wonderful as the one on the right. :D



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Posted 28 January 2017 - 07:30 AM

WONDERFUL DAY


And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen. Exodus 33:23

 

Figure a man's only good for one oath at a time; I took mine to the Confederate States of America. The Searchers --
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If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under. President Ronald Reagan
 
In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength.  Gen. Robert E. Lee
 
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Posted 27 January 2017 - 03:31 PM

And Bernie Sanders owns three mansions but pretends to be a poor socialist.

I wonder how many of NYCs homeless he lets in to sleep on his living room floor...floors. :D


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Posted 27 January 2017 - 11:20 AM

Trump has doubled his membership fees at Mar-go-Lago to $200,000 and dubbed it the Winter White House.  Its web site features a picture of Trump.  He and the boys also have plans to build as many as 21 new luxury and affordable Trump hotels across America with the Trump brand.

 

And Bernie Sanders owns three mansions but pretends to be a poor socialist.


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Things are never so bad they can't be made worse.


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Posted 27 January 2017 - 09:23 AM

Trump has doubled his membership fees at Mar-go-Lago to $200,000 and dubbed it the Winter White House.  Its web site features a picture of Trump.  He and the boys also have plans to build as many as 21 new luxury and affordable Trump hotels across America with the Trump brand.

If this isn't using the Presidency to fatten your wallet, I don't know what is.


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Posted 27 January 2017 - 05:48 AM

Trump has doubled his membership fees at Mar-go-Lago to $200,000 and dubbed it the Winter White House.  Its web site features a picture of Trump.  He and the boys also have plans to build as many as 21 new luxury and affordable Trump hotels across America with the Trump brand.



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Posted 26 January 2017 - 11:55 AM

OF COURSE trump is the legitimate president. that's why sean spicer is having a ball needling the WH press corps... :lol:

 

I wonder how legitimate a potus obama would have become IF his harvard scholastic records had been brought into the public arena back in 2008.

 

I wonder what they say. I wonder what's in them.

 

they are still sealed, princess of tap, they are still sealed. :D


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Posted 26 January 2017 - 11:47 AM

Trixie Trump, or whatever her name is, Steve Bannon and one other Trump staffer were registered to vote in multiple states.


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 06:36 AM

Via Old Spicer his alternative facts mouthpiece, Trump quadrupled down yesterday on his claim that the election was marred by fraud.  What next?  A snap re-election calling in the Namibian elections scrutinizers?  I understand that Vlad Putin has volunteered Russian assistance to help scrutinize the next U.S. election.



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Posted 24 January 2017 - 09:49 AM

 

"An all-star team of lawyers, including two leading experts on presidential ethics and two of the most prominent constitutional scholars in the nation, will file a lawsuit on Monday challenging President Trump’s ongoing violation of an anti-corruption provision in the Constitution.

 

The suit alleges that Trump is in violation of the Emoluments Clause, which prohibits federal office holders from receiving “any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.”

 

Trump’s company, the Trump Organization, does regular business with foreign governments, presenting them with an opportunity to launder unconstitutional gifts to the president....

 

https://thinkprogres...73dd#.qv082r7f5

 

& so it begins............

 

But there is significant doubt that the plaintiffs can establish standing, i.e., that they are directly harmed by Trump's actions.



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Posted 23 January 2017 - 06:20 PM

"An all-star team of lawyers, including two leading experts on presidential ethics and two of the most prominent constitutional scholars in the nation, will file a lawsuit on Monday challenging President Trump’s ongoing violation of an anti-corruption provision in the Constitution.

 

The suit alleges that Trump is in violation of the Emoluments Clause, which prohibits federal office holders from receiving “any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.”

 

Trump’s company, the Trump Organization, does regular business with foreign governments, presenting them with an opportunity to launder unconstitutional gifts to the president....

 

https://thinkprogres...73dd#.qv082r7f5

 

& so it begins............


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Posted 15 January 2017 - 06:21 PM

'During an interview on ABC's This Week, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) raised serious concerns about Trump's legitimacy, and when asked didn't call the president-elect a legitimate president....

 

 

STEPHANOPOULOS: Do you think Donald Trump will be a legitimate president?

 

SANDERS: Well, I think he’s going to be inaugurated this week. I have great concerns, and apparently Republicans do as well, and there’s going to be an investigation about the role that Russian hacking played in getting him elected.

Do I think Russians supported him? Do I think they tried to get him elected? Do I think it worked against Clinton? I do. And that is something that has to be investigated.

 

http://www.politicus...-president.html


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Posted 14 January 2017 - 05:03 PM

I also saw a lot of other articles stating definitively that the private server was hacked, but they were all stories from FOX, Breitbart, etc, released the last few days before the election, so those hold about as much water as a fishnet. 

 

 

Reports from those sources contain elements of truth even although they are often buried in hyperbole and one must dig them out. I do not consider any news source as perfectly credible and I believe that it is only by comparing and contrasting information from opposing sources does one find an inkling of the facts.

 

Most of my information concerning this matter comes from discussion forums based in Odesa. It is reasonable to believe that two of the staff of Cozy Bear were recruited from Odesa and it may be that one was recruited from Nikolaev. Those which many believe now work for FSB have communicated with their friends and family but do not discuss their work beyond that they now live in Moscow but there are hints and whispers of what they do and what they find.


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Posted 14 January 2017 - 04:39 PM

Can you tell us some strategies that he has used in dealing with Ukraine that may be similar to what he's doing with the United States?

Or can you just give us some idea of the kind of strategies that he uses in domestic politics in Russia?

 

 

His primary policy in all cases is to do what he pleases, lie to the world about it and pay foreign politicians to look the other way.

 

One of his main policies in both Ukraine and here is to hire locals to do dirty work. It is in Ukraine that his mercenaries bomb hospitals and kill nurses and rape the children of those who oppose Russia's control. It is here that his administration hires protesters who are trained to incite crowds to extremism and hires media consultants to produce fake news which will further discord between parties. The methods by which this policy is carried out differently in different areas is in keeping with the teachings of Sun Tzu.


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Posted 14 January 2017 - 04:31 PM

Hilary doesn't matter any more, except in that Trump may have been complicit with the Russians in encouraging the hacking of her emails -- wherever they were -- so that he could win the election. Trump's emails may well have been hacked as well -- but the Russians are holding that information, as it may be far more damaging to Trump (and the country) than Hillary's innocuous emails were to her. After all, the hacking of Hillary's emails merely meant the loss of an election!

 

The hacking of Trump's -- that's much more serious. 

 

 



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Posted 14 January 2017 - 04:31 PM

The private server which she maintained was definitely hacked. Information gathered from it eased the hacking of DNC servers because certain people used the same password for their accounts. Part of the information released to and via WikiLeaks came from her private server.

 

 

Do you have some sources for this? All I can find is that all of the 20.000+ documents leaked via WikiLeaks were acquired from the DNC computers and John Podesta's computer, from hacking, phishing, and maybe even some direct leaks from unnamed DNC whistleblowers. 

 

Edit: Researching for myself, I found a NYT article dated from July last year that says FBI director Comey said that they had no evidence of a hack on the private server, but the implication was that it could have happened and the hackers left no traces.

 

I also saw a lot of other articles stating definitively that the private server was hacked, but they were all stories from FOX, Breitbart, etc, released the last few days before the election, so those hold about as much water as a fishnet. 






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