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#21 Hibi

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 09:51 AM

Vera Miles' name came up on the "Psycho" thread and it reminded me of something nice Joan said about her in reference to "Autumn Leaves":  She praised Vera's performance and added a comment to the effect "Why doesn't that gal get more good work?"...See, Joan wasn't above dispensing compliments,  so long as they were returned.....talking to you Bette...

 

 

LOL. Yeah, never understood why her career flatlined. She was a good actress. Maybe she was more interested in her family life. She said she had no regrets about dropping out of Vertigo as she resented Hitchcock's interference in her private life.



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Posted 23 March 2017 - 09:05 AM

Vera Miles' name came up on the "Psycho" thread and it reminded me of something nice Joan said about her in reference to "Autumn Leaves":  She praised Vera's performance and added a comment to the effect "Why doesn't that gal get more good work?"...See, Joan wasn't above dispensing compliments,  so long as they were returned.....talking to you Bette...


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#23 LornaHansonForbes

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 09:01 AM

LOL! (That nosy Mrs. Bates talking about your picture last night....)

 

"...She downright deserves to die...."



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Posted 23 March 2017 - 08:59 AM

the only thing i can think of that would give the neighbors any reason to even be in the script would be a rewrite where the Mother comes over and gets added to Bette's victim list, which the more i think about, the more i like.

 

ps- would be fine with the daughter getting it too.

 

 

LOL! (That nosy Mrs. Bates talking about your picture last night....)


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Posted 23 March 2017 - 08:10 AM

the only thing i can think of that would give the neighbors any reason to even be in the script would be a rewrite where the Mother comes over and gets added to Bette's victim list, which the more i think about, the more i like.

 

ps- would be fine with the daughter getting it too.



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Posted 22 March 2017 - 09:53 PM

Just watched Episode 3, at last. I liked it. Any program that features a Shirelles song ("Mama Said," albeit a year or so late) is fine by me.

 

 


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 04:57 PM

amen.

she's a beast.

 

 

LOL. A holier than thou one.



#28 LornaHansonForbes

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 04:49 PM

With good reason. :D

 

 

amen.

she's a beast.



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Posted 22 March 2017 - 04:47 PM

Bette also disinherited BD and her children.

 

 

With good reason. :D


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 04:42 PM

Bette said later in life that talent skips a generation. :D

Bette also disinherited BD and her children.



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Posted 22 March 2017 - 03:58 PM

We just watched it and definitely too long. 

Interesting that Blanche did look better in the dying beach scenes that in the ones prior to them.  Course would not have paid attention to this but for the TV series.

As for B.D. Sherry/Merrill, she was not in it long enough to harm it.

 

Bette said later in life that talent skips a generation. :D


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 03:58 PM

We just watched it and definitely too long. 

Interesting that Blanche did look better in the dying beach scenes that in the ones prior to them.  Course would not have paid attention to this but for the TV series.

As for B.D. Sherry/Merrill, she was not in it long enough to harm it.

 

 

Yes, the part about Joan wanting to look better was true. This prompted Bette to want to look better as well. The final scene was reshot in the studio. At least parts of it.  You can tell in the shot where Bette dances around when the people are watching her that its a studio shot........



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Posted 22 March 2017 - 03:54 PM

I see. It did look like an old part of town. And houses VERY close together, but then that's LA!



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Posted 22 March 2017 - 03:53 PM

We just watched it and definitely too long. 

Interesting that Blanche did look better in the dying beach scenes that in the ones prior to them.  Course would not have paid attention to this but for the TV series.

As for B.D. Sherry/Merrill, she was not in it long enough to harm it.

 


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 03:28 PM

Yeah, but then that note throwing scene would have to go. :( B.D. was certainly no actress.

I always wondered what part of LA that house was located in.


I am almost positive it is Hancock Park, which is south of Hollywood somewhat and east as well. A very nice part of town.

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 02:33 PM

And watching it now, if I were allowed to have my way with WEHTBJ?62, a definite change I would make would be to make the house more isolated. That eliminates the need for the next-door neighbor characters, who are superfluous and a drag on the plot, and heightens the tension-

 

 

Yeah, but then that note throwing scene would have to go. :( B.D. was certainly no actress.

 

I always wondered what part of LA that house was located in.



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Posted 22 March 2017 - 02:32 PM

AaaaaaaaaaaaEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
(Its on now.)

 

 

Bette and Joan? OR Baby Jane? :D



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Posted 22 March 2017 - 01:36 PM

And watching it now, if I were allowed to have my way with WEHTBJ?62, a definite change I would make would be to make the house more isolated. That eliminates the need for the next-door neighbor characters, who are superfluous and a drag on the plot, and heightens the tension-

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 01:21 PM

AaaaaaaaaaaaEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
(Its on now.)

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 11:36 AM

Eeh! Ya know what the REAL problem with the flick is, doncha Lorna?!

 

Uh-huh. There's not nearly enough rat being served for dinner in this baby!

 

(...and which now reminds me of another old joke...ya know what the difference between a gerbil and a hamster is?...hamsters have a little bit more white meat to 'em)

 

 

You would know, right? :D






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