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The Miserable Legacy of Barack Obama


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#1 NipkowDisc

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Posted 03 June 2017 - 02:55 PM

I'll show you my college transcripts, if you show me yours.

College transcripts are like poker - - you come up with yours and then maybe Obama will send you his.

ain't got none. I'm an idjit. :D


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Posted 03 June 2017 - 02:49 PM

not to include obama's harvard scholastic records, I presume. :lol:


I'll show you my college transcripts, if you show me yours.

College transcripts are like poker - - you come up with yours and then maybe Obama will send you his.

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Posted 03 June 2017 - 02:45 PM

Obama Presidential Center will not house official papers and artifacts

The Obama Presidential Center is shaping up to be unlike any other presidential library before it ... in at least one way.

 

President Obama revealed in early May the design for his presidential center in Chicago, but now more details are emerging on the project.

 

Unlike past presidential libraries, President Obama's official papers and artifacts will not be housed in the center. Instead they be digitized and stored elsewhere by the National Archives and Records Administration and made available through loans.

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Of coarse Obama is going to hide the official documents, he should hire Hillary to put up the email server.

 

not to include obama's harvard scholastic records, I presume. :lol: 


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Posted 03 June 2017 - 11:31 AM

Obama Presidential Center will not house official papers and artifacts

The Obama Presidential Center is shaping up to be unlike any other presidential library before it ... in at least one way.

 

President Obama revealed in early May the design for his presidential center in Chicago, but now more details are emerging on the project.

 

Unlike past presidential libraries, President Obama's official papers and artifacts will not be housed in the center. Instead they be digitized and stored elsewhere by the National Archives and Records Administration and made available through loans.

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Of coarse Obama is going to hide the official documents, he should hire Hillary to put up the email server.


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Posted 06 April 2017 - 04:36 PM

As the Moody Blues once said, Isn't Life Strange?

 

Kentucky Coal Mining Museum converts to solar power

 

 

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#6 Vautrin

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Posted 06 April 2017 - 04:11 PM

Here is the difference, it should be easy enough for even you to understand. Nothing was found in the Russian conspiracy that was debunked. In the leaking of unmasked Trump people, it was a crime. Somebody committed felonies, and also it must have been a conspiracy to make it happen. That's what Watergate was, a conspiracy. Susan Rice is at the top of the Obama administration. She lied on PBS saying she knew nothing, and now we know she did know. She unmasked political people and used the intelligence community to accomplish it. Obama signed an executive order to expand the sharing of this information among his buddies so they could leak it. This gets bigger every day.

The Russian "conspiracy" is still being investigated, so we don't know for

sure about it. That's what the investigation is for. Unmasking people is

not a crime. She unmasked folks so she could better understand the

context of the intelligence. That's not a crime either. So far, this is pretty

much a nothing burger, as the wingnuts like to put it.


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Posted 06 April 2017 - 12:46 PM

 

Former US Attorney: Susan Rice Ordered Spy Agencies To Produce ‘Detailed Spreadsheets’ Involving Trump

Update: In response to a question Tuesday from NBC News reporter Andrea Mitchell,  former Obama White House National Security Adviser Susan Rice denied that she “prepared” spreadsheets of surveilled telephone calls involving Donald Trump and his aides. The Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group, however, reported that Rice “ordered” the spreadsheets to be produced.

 

 

The Daily News Caller's a right wing news site founded by Tucker Carlson. And Carlson kisses Trump's **** longer than most right wingers.

 

That's the problem today, Everyone can find a news site, particularly on the internet, to support their partisan beliefs and then broadcast them here as if they're real news.

 

 

 

The Daily Caller is often touted as the conservative answer to Huffington Post. Indeed, the Daily Caller themselves say they are “the balance against the rest of the conventional press,” which if you can’t tell by most conservative rhetoric is left-leaning. But conservative pundit and Daily Caller co-founder Tucker Carlson said that they would “not be tied to ideology.”

 

This idea of ‘balance’ doesn’t stop them from moving forward with an article accusing Sen. Bob Menendez (D) of paying women for sex. This accusation hit five days before the 2012 New Jersey senate election.

Which is awfully convenient.

 

In fact, a later investigation by the Washington Post claims that Daily Caller paid the ladies in question to make the claims. Granted, this same article asserts: “Under police questioning, Figueroa said the foreign man, who said he worked for the Daily Caller but did not provide identification, asked him to arrange staged interviews, Polanco said.”

Also awfully convenient.

 

The Daily Caller is considered real news, for the purposes of this site, but you will want to pay particular attention to the color of every article and try to find opposing viewpoints.

 

http://realorsatire....ailycaller-com/


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Posted 06 April 2017 - 11:32 AM

Former US Attorney: Susan Rice Ordered Spy Agencies To Produce ‘Detailed Spreadsheets’ Involving Trump

Update: In response to a question Tuesday from NBC News reporter Andrea Mitchell,  former Obama White House National Security Adviser Susan Rice denied that she “prepared” spreadsheets of surveilled telephone calls involving Donald Trump and his aides. The Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group, however, reported that Rice “ordered” the spreadsheets to be produced.

In addition, former U.S. Attorney Joe DiGenova, one of TheDCNF’s sources, said Tuesday in response to Rice that her denial “would come as quite a surprise to the government officials who have reviewed dozens of those spreadsheets.”
 
Former President Barack Obama’s national security adviser Susan Rice ordered U.S. spy agencies to produce “detailed spreadsheets” of legal phone calls involving Donald Trump and his aides when he was running for president, according to former U.S. Attorney Joseph diGenova.
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Why would she be keeping detailed spreadsheets on Trump if this was only an innocent unmasking? Watergate 2.0 is happening. Crimes were committed because the names were leaked to the press by people inside with access. So she unmasks, Obama signed an executive order to allow the sharing of it, and then it gets leaked. Even a toddler could figure this one out.

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Posted 06 April 2017 - 07:30 AM

Unmasking is NOT leaking, and there is no evidence that Rice leaked the names she found. So how do her actions further any political agenda of the Democrats?

 

Keep saying the Russian leak theory has been "debunked" all you want, Madness. I guess it makes you feel happier as you constantly try to deflect away from it.

 

And having a President of the United States using the power of that office to influence investigations by declaring Obama, Rice or anybody else guilty of a crime is another illustration of the fact that Donald Trump is incapable of acting in a non partisan manner in the Oval Office and governing like he is representing ALL Americans.

 

If Obama had done anything as outrageous as this, Republicans would have been screaming to the heavens about it, and rightfully so.

 

But when Trump does it his stupid sheep followers just nod their heads in agreement.


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Posted 06 April 2017 - 02:51 AM

Susan Rice did not lie on PBS.  This is just another HS attempt to deflect from the real story - treason plain and simple.  I hope that she is called to testify and is allowed to tell what she knows about Trump and his cohorts.

No one looks at Daniel Ellsberg as a criminal anymore by the way.  Thanks to some whistleblower this Trump Russia scandal has come to light.  Americans should be grateful.  It's the Trump supporters who don't want egg on their faces who are trying to scapegoat this affair.


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Posted 06 April 2017 - 02:18 AM

Here is the difference, it should be easy enough for even you to understand. Nothing was found in the Russian conspiracy that was debunked. In the leaking of unmasked Trump people, it was a crime. Somebody committed felonies, and also it must have been a conspiracy to make it happen. That's what Watergate was, a conspiracy. Susan Rice is at the top of the Obama administration. She lied on PBS saying she knew nothing, and now we know she did know. She unmasked political people and used the intelligence community to accomplish it. Obama signed an executive order to expand the sharing of this information among his buddies so they could leak it. This gets bigger every day.


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Posted 05 April 2017 - 11:12 PM

Rice was doing what the NSA sometimes does--unmasking names to

get a better idea of where the intelligence leads. There's no proof

that she leaked any names, no proof that Obama had anything to do

with it, no proof that it will be the next Watergate. But to Donny and

his wingnut buddies no proof is needed. They just make it up as

they go along, just like the original lie that Trump was wiretapped

at Trump Tower.


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Posted 05 April 2017 - 10:00 PM

Susan Rice requested to unmask names of Trump transition officials, sources say

Multiple sources tell Fox News that Susan Rice, former national security adviser under then-President Barack Obama, requested to unmask the names of Trump transition officials caught up in surveillance.

 

The unmasked names, of people associated with Donald Trump, were then sent to all those at the National Security Council, some at the Defense Department, then-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and then-CIA Director John Brennan – essentially, the officials at the top, including former Rice deputy Ben Rhodes.

 

The names were part of incidental electronic surveillance of candidate and President-elect Trump and people close to him, including family members, for up to a year before he took office.

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This is where the leaking of names in the Trump transition team came from, and it was done for political purposes by Obama's administration. It's the next Watergate. How they ever thought they could get away with it is beyond belief, especially when they made such a big deal about the Russian conspiracy that has been thoroughly debunked.


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Posted 04 April 2017 - 03:24 PM

A slow recovery beats a Great Recession every time. And

many more jobs were created during Obama's term than that of

Dumbya. It's possible that the global economy has changed to

such a degree that slow recoveries will be the norm in the future.

We'll see. The Farkas March 2 interview shows nothing about

leaking. The wingnuts have nothing but a lot of rumors which

they will repeat ad nauseum in the hope that some suckers

will actually believe them, all in an attempt to distract from the

investigation into Trump and the Ruskies. This is pretty much

their SOP in all areas.


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Posted 04 April 2017 - 03:15 PM

Will humiliating Bo do? :lol:

 

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He was probably somewhere in the mix at one time.

When it comes to Obama crazies, anything goes.


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Posted 04 April 2017 - 11:08 AM

Obama officials pressured by Farkas for months to spill beans on Trump-Russia ties

Even before her now-famous MSNBC comments explaining why "you have the leaking" on alleged ties between Trump officials and Russia, former defense official Evelyn Farkas had undertaken a media campaign to pressure her old colleagues in the Obama administration -- even Barack Obama himself -- to disclose what they knew.

 

Farkas, who left the administration in 2015 after serving as a deputy assistant secretary of defense, raised eyebrows in the March 2 interview on MSNBC when she said there had been a rush to share information before President Trump took office.

 

“I was urging my former colleagues, and frankly speaking, the people on the Hill … ‘get as much information as you can, get as much intelligence as you can before President Obama leaves the administration,’ because I had a fear that, somehow, that information would disappear with the senior people who left,” she said.

 

“That’s why you have the leaking, because people were worried,” she added.

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Obama and his buddies are in trouble for leaking classified information on political opponents. This will be huge.


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Posted 04 April 2017 - 01:03 AM

Report: Worst economic recovery since 1930s, salaries fall $17,000 short

The sputtering economic recovering under President Obama, the last to follow a major recession, has fallen way short of the average recovery and ranks as the worst since the 1930s Great Depression, according to a new report.

Had the recovery under Obama been the average of the 11 since the Depression, according to the report, family incomes would be $17,000 higher, six million fewer Americans would be in poverty, and there would be six million more jobs.

"Obama's economic policies," said the report from the Heartland Institute, "produced the worst recovery from a recession since the Great Depression, worse than what every other president faced with a recession has achieved since the 1930s."

 

"The slow growth and negligible job creation under Obama caused a decline in middle-class incomes. The Census Bureau's Current Population Survey shows real median household income fell by more than $4,500 during Obama's first term, approximately 8 percent, meaning the middle class lost the equivalent of one month's pay under Obama," said the report.

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This isn't dumb to the millions that have been hurt by the horrible economic policies Obama gave us.


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Posted 04 April 2017 - 12:38 AM

Can't you right wingers come up with some new dumb

material instead of repeating the same old stuff?

 

Will humiliating Bo do? :lol:

 

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 12:22 AM

Can't you right wingers come up with some new dumb

material instead of repeating the same old stuff?

 

No.


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Posted 03 April 2017 - 11:25 PM

Can't you right wingers come up with some new dumb

material instead of repeating the same old stuff?


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