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The Miserable Legacy of Barack Obama


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#161 hamradio

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 01:00 PM

NSA Whistleblower Backs Trump Up on Wiretap Claims

President Donald Trump is "absolutely right" to claim he was wiretapped and monitored, a former NSA official claimed Monday, adding that the administration risks falling victim to further leaks if it continues to run afoul of the intelligence community.

"I think the president is absolutely right. His phone calls, everything he did electronically, was being monitored," Bill Binney, a 36-year veteran of the National Security Agency who resigned in protest from the organization in 2001, told Fox Business on Monday. Everyone's conversations are being monitored and stored, Binney said.

Binney resigned from NSA shortly after the U.S. approach to intelligence changed following the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. He "became a whistleblower after discovering that elements of a data-monitoring program he had helped develop -- nicknamed ThinThread -- were being used to spy on Americans," PBS reported.

The judges on the FISA court are "not even concerned, nor are they involved in any way with the Executive Order 12333 collection," Binney said during the radio interview. "That's all done outside of the courts. And outside of the Congress."

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Obama signed Executive Order 12333 so he could have his people leak intelligence on Trump after the election. Obama is a crook.
 

 

 

Obama only added new rules to allow the NSA to disseminate "raw signals intelligent information"

 

https://www.lawfareb...ls-intelligence

 

 

Ronald Reagan signed Executive Order 12333.

 

https://en.wikipedia...ive_Order_12333



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:39 PM

Obama Opens NSA’s Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to Entire Intelligence Community, Just in Time for Trump

With only days until Donald Trump takes office, the Obama administration on Thursday announced new rules that will let the NSA share vast amounts of private data gathered without warrant, court orders or congressional authorization with 16 other agencies, including the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Agency, and the Department of Homeland Security.

The change was in the works long before there was any expectation that someone like Trump might become president. The last-minute adoption of the procedures is one of many examples of the Obama administration making new executive powers established by the Bush administration permanent, on the assumption that the executive branch could be trusted to police itself.

Executive Order 12333, often referred to as “twelve triple-three,” has attracted less debate than congressional wiretapping laws, but serves as authorization for the NSA’s most massive surveillance programs — far more than the NSA’s other programs combined.

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Obama did this for political reasons, to allow leakers to sift through data and give it to the media. It sounds like Trump Tower was included, Obama is a crook.


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 11:58 AM

Actually executive order 12333 goes back to Reagan and Bush.

 

Regardless, Obama's EO was done because they were afraid the Trump appointees to NSA, CIA, FBI, HS, et. al. would destroy all evidence of activities during the election that might cast a bad lighht on Trump or the GOPers.

They were correct.

Obama defended America and the right of the people to know what the friends of Russia were doing.


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 11:44 AM

 

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Obama signed Executive Order 12333 so he could have his people leak intelligence on Trump after the election. Obama is a crook.
 

 

 

Yeah, gather all this damning evidence on Trump and then wait until the election is over to release it.  What a bunch of maroons.

Just a diversion because Trump supporters are afraid of learning the truth about their candidate.  How American.



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Posted 08 March 2017 - 11:37 AM

NSA Whistleblower Backs Trump Up on Wiretap Claims

President Donald Trump is "absolutely right" to claim he was wiretapped and monitored, a former NSA official claimed Monday, adding that the administration risks falling victim to further leaks if it continues to run afoul of the intelligence community.

"I think the president is absolutely right. His phone calls, everything he did electronically, was being monitored," Bill Binney, a 36-year veteran of the National Security Agency who resigned in protest from the organization in 2001, told Fox Business on Monday. Everyone's conversations are being monitored and stored, Binney said.

Binney resigned from NSA shortly after the U.S. approach to intelligence changed following the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. He "became a whistleblower after discovering that elements of a data-monitoring program he had helped develop -- nicknamed ThinThread -- were being used to spy on Americans," PBS reported.

The judges on the FISA court are "not even concerned, nor are they involved in any way with the Executive Order 12333 collection," Binney said during the radio interview. "That's all done outside of the courts. And outside of the Congress."

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Obama signed Executive Order 12333 so he could have his people leak intelligence on Trump after the election. Obama is a crook.
 


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#166 mr6666

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 05:01 PM

MM, it would be appreciated if you would provide a link to your sources.appears to be

 

appears to be:  https://www.conserva...nment-officials

 

-_-


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 01:18 PM

Well you can see that Trump's "insane" deflection on the weekend is working with his gullible base.  That's why he doesn't want to stop the story.  Even though it has been refuted by the FBI and Intelligence Trump doesn't care.  Now his zombie followers are all getting worked up about the 'criminal' Obama and not even giving two thoughts that their leader may have sold out to the Russians in order to get elected.  Don't even bother to investigate that one!

 

The Trump zombie followers are barely willing to even mention the Russian leaks, let alone the possibility of Trump camp collusion with them during the election.

 

With the "Obama wiretapped Trump Tower" distraction they now have something to latch onto, Comey and Clapper denials and zero evidence from the White House be damned. Republicans in Congress are clearly uncomfortable with Trump's latest tweet and want to move on to other subjects, but a lot of his red meat base like to think they can smell blood here, the same crowd that wanted to see Obama's birth certificate, no doubt.



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Posted 07 March 2017 - 12:30 PM

Well you can see that Trump's "insane" deflection on the weekend is working with his gullible base.  That's why he doesn't want to stop the story.  Even though it has been refuted by the FBI and Intelligence Trump doesn't care.  Now his zombie followers are all getting worked up about the 'criminal' Obama and not even giving two thoughts that their leader may have sold out to the Russians in order to get elected.  Don't even bother to investigate that one!


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 12:24 PM

5 times the Obama administration spied on private citizens, journalists, and government officials


 

 

MM, it would be appreciated if you would provide a link to your sources.


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 12:16 PM

5 times the Obama administration spied on private citizens, journalists, and government officials

Did the Obama administration engage in “police state tactics” by spying on Donald Trump’s presidential campaign? Such activities would be entirely in-character of the former administration.

“The evidence [of spying] is overwhelming,” said Conservative Review Editor-in-Chief Mark Levin over the weekend. Yet the mainstream media is more interested in biased partisanship and dismissing legitimate questions rather than investigating the evidence.

There is ample reason to take these spying allegations seriously, especially in light of the Obama administration’s record on domestic surveillance. Here is a brief history:

 

1. Obama’s Justice Department secretly subpoenaed AP reporters’ private phone records

2. Fox News reporter James Rosen and his parents’ phone records were seized

3. Secret Service agents accessed a restricted file to embarrass a congressman investigating them

4. Obama’s phone surveillance of foreign leaders

5. NSA spied on Israeli PM Netanyahu and members of Congress

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Obama was caught five times spying on others, and that is only what we know. He needs to be investigated for his spying and to find out how many laws he broke doing it.


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 09:49 AM

 

From the Washington Post today:

 

THIS IS TRUMP’S MODUS OPERANDI:

-- Whenever he is under fire for something in a sustained way, he makes a shocking claim or provocative declaration about something else to change the subject. He is a master practitioner at the politics of distraction. These five examples might jog your memory:

  • After struggling during the first GOP primary debate to explain his disparaging comments about women, he attacked Megyn Kelly. “There was … blood coming out of her wherever,” he said, ensuring that the media focused on the new Trump-Kelly “feud.”
  • When the 2005 Access Hollywood video came out, he brought Bill Clinton’s former accusers to St. Louis as his guests to the second debate.
  • In November, the morning after agreeing to settle a fraud lawsuit against Trump University for $25 million, he demanded that the cast of “Hamilton” apologize to Mike Pence.
  • Days after firing Michael Flynn, he held a rambling 77-minute press conference because he knew that it would get the Flynn story out of the news.
  • Perturbed when critics pointed out that he lost the popular vote, he claimed that 3 million to 5 million people voted illegally.

 

Possibly, but just as likely is that his tweet finger operates independently of his brain,



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Posted 06 March 2017 - 03:33 PM

From the Washington Post today:

 

THIS IS TRUMP’S MODUS OPERANDI:

-- Whenever he is under fire for something in a sustained way, he makes a shocking claim or provocative declaration about something else to change the subject. He is a master practitioner at the politics of distraction. These five examples might jog your memory:

  • After struggling during the first GOP primary debate to explain his disparaging comments about women, he attacked Megyn Kelly. “There was … blood coming out of her wherever,” he said, ensuring that the media focused on the new Trump-Kelly “feud.”
  • When the 2005 Access Hollywood video came out, he brought Bill Clinton’s former accusers to St. Louis as his guests to the second debate.
  • In November, the morning after agreeing to settle a fraud lawsuit against Trump University for $25 million, he demanded that the cast of “Hamilton” apologize to Mike Pence.
  • Days after firing Michael Flynn, he held a rambling 77-minute press conference because he knew that it would get the Flynn story out of the news.
  • Perturbed when critics pointed out that he lost the popular vote, he claimed that 3 million to 5 million people voted illegally.

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 03:15 PM

Remember When Obama Spied on Congressmen Opposed to Iran Deal?

When the media puts on its befuddled face over Trump's allegations, remember what Obama was doing little more than a year ago.

    The National Security Agency's (NSA) continued surveillance of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Israeli leaders may also have swept up private conversations involving members of Congress, the Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday night.

    Further, the Journal reports that intercepted conversations between Israeli leaders confirmed Israel's knowledge of the talks, as well as its intent to undermine any nuclear deal with Iran by leaking its details. When Netanyahu and his top aides came to Washington to talk with Jewish-American groups and members of Congress to lobby against the deal, the NSA was there to pick up the conversations.

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We definitely need an investigation into Obama and his covert spying on Trump and members of Congress. This sounds as bad as Watergate.

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 03:13 PM

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We definitely need an investigation into Obama and his covert spying on Trump and members of Congress. This sounds as bad as Watergate.

 

1. The White House offers ZERO evidence of a wiretapping.

 

2. James Clapper said it didn't happen.

 

3. James Comey is said to have been incredulous when he heard of the tweet and asked the Justice Department to come out with a denial.

 

4. Trump himself is now hiding from the media so as to not have to answer any questions about the basis for his accusation - now a full three days (!!!) after uttering it. Even when he signed the executive ban order today he did it away from the media.

 

And yet you ramble on, MM, comparing Obama's "spying" to Watergate. The reason for it is obvious - you WANT to believe it. You HOPE and PRAY it's true.

 

So let me make a wild guess now. If there is an investigation and it turns out that Trump shot off his mouth impulsively out of turn, wrongfully smearing a former President, to whom he owes an apology, my bet is that you will say nothing about it. You'll be too busy trying to slam Obama for something else.


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Posted 06 March 2017 - 02:32 PM

Bannon is the black magic sorcerer and Trump is the Mickey Mouse Sorcerer's Apprentice. LOL

..and the sorcerer keeps getting the apprentice into trouble.



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Posted 06 March 2017 - 02:30 PM

..and apparently Preivis is the one whose job is in jeopardy. Why not Bannon?

Bannon is the black magic sorcerer and Trump is the Mickey Mouse Sorcerer's Apprentice. LOL

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 02:21 PM

When you get all your news from Steve Bannon AKA Breitbart, you get all the fiction you can stomach.

But some people just prefer fiction because they can't take the truth.

..and apparently Preivis is the one whose job is in jeopardy. Why not Bannon?



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Posted 06 March 2017 - 02:17 PM

Remember When Obama Spied on Congressmen Opposed to Iran Deal?

When the media puts on its befuddled face over Trump's allegations, remember what Obama was doing little more than a year ago.

    The National Security Agency's (NSA) continued surveillance of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Israeli leaders may also have swept up private conversations involving members of Congress, the Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday night.

    Further, the Journal reports that intercepted conversations between Israeli leaders confirmed Israel's knowledge of the talks, as well as its intent to undermine any nuclear deal with Iran by leaking its details. When Netanyahu and his top aides came to Washington to talk with Jewish-American groups and members of Congress to lobby against the deal, the NSA was there to pick up the conversations.

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We definitely need an investigation into Obama and his covert spying on Trump and members of Congress. This sounds as bad as Watergate.


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Posted 04 March 2017 - 08:54 PM

Isn't this totally irresponsible on Trump's part to be leaking this allegation himself.  His source apparently was Briebart.

Obama would not have the authority to order the wire taps in any event.   If the FBI ordered them it would have been with probable cause.  Just think of those implications.  But oh, I forgot.  Tumpsters can't handle the truth.  That's how he got elected.

 

It's the NSA's job to illegally spy on people.



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Posted 04 March 2017 - 07:46 PM

Trump, citing no evidence, accuses Obama of ‘Nixon/Watergate’ plot to wiretap Trump Tower
President Trump on Saturday angrily accused former president Barack Obama of orchestrating a “Nixon/Watergate” plot to tap the phones at his Trump Tower headquarters last fall in the run-up to the election.

Citing no evidence to support his explosive allegation, Trump said in a series of five tweets sent Saturday morning that Obama was “wire tapping” his New York offices before the election in a move he compared to McCarthyism. “Bad (or sick) guy!” he said of his predecessor, adding that the surveillance resulted in “nothing found.”
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If Obama tapped the phone lines of Trump before the election then he needs to be thrown in prison.


When you get all your news from Steve Bannon AKA Breitbart, you get all the fiction you can stomach.

But some people just prefer fiction because they can't take the truth.
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