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Does Donald Trump Have Mental Health Problems?


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#1 NipkowDisc

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Posted 13 May 2017 - 04:14 PM

How is President Pence starting to sound to everybody?

 

I get why some people voted for Trump so I'm not going to call (most of) them insane and I know some people will stick with Trump no matter what and these people wouldn't have voted for Clinton under any circumstance.  I do blame Clinton for not spending more time in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania (outside of the big cities) as she took these states for granted and you don't take any states for granted in this kind of election.

 

This is the possible scenario:  regular Republicans are going to get so concerned as Trump's approval numbers dip further, Pence, at the prodding of these Republicans, will use the 25th Amendment to "retire" Trump.  No impeachment.  Pence is the establishment's kind of Republican anyway:  hawkish, anti-abortion, anti-LGBT, pro-business, etc.  Indeed, Pence wanted to run for President this time around but he botched his proposed anti-gay legislation in Indiana so badly that several businesses threatened  to move out and his campaign never got going.  This way he gets to be President without having to work for it.  Of course, for this to happen Trump really has to go off the rails and Pence and Company have to play their cards just right.  Are we at that point yet?.

just shows you how partisan-hamstrung the democrats are. pence is the real thing, an ideologically-driven conservative.

 

they wanna nail trump for that?.  :huh:  :lol:


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Posted 13 May 2017 - 03:05 PM

If the last few days doesn't answer this thread's question,  then you have mental health problems.

 

 


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 07:18 PM

How is President Pence starting to sound to everybody?

 

I get why some people voted for Trump so I'm not going to call (most of) them insane and I know some people will stick with Trump no matter what and these people wouldn't have voted for Clinton under any circumstance.  I do blame Clinton for not spending more time in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania (outside of the big cities) as she took these states for granted and you don't take any states for granted in this kind of election.

 

This is the possible scenario:  regular Republicans are going to get so concerned as Trump's approval numbers dip further, Pence, at the prodding of these Republicans, will use the 25th Amendment to "retire" Trump.  No impeachment.  Pence is the establishment's kind of Republican anyway:  hawkish, anti-abortion, anti-LGBT, pro-business, etc.  Indeed, Pence wanted to run for President this time around but he botched his proposed anti-gay legislation in Indiana so badly that several businesses threatened  to move out and his campaign never got going.  This way he gets to be President without having to work for it.  Of course, for this to happen Trump really has to go off the rails and Pence and Company have to play their cards just right.  Are we at that point yet?.



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Posted 11 May 2017 - 06:56 PM

"Watch them start to choke like dogs," President Trump is reported saying in a Time exclusive, speaking of former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and the now fired Acting Attorney General Sally Yates...

 

 

We are in deep delusion territory here, people. And this isn’t meant as a dig or to be snarky. This man isn’t fit to be president. He doesn’t have a positive relationship with reality.

 

Further indication of just how unfit for this job Donald Trump is was seen in his confused reaction to his firing of Comey. He expected Democrats to be happy about it because they had expressed dissatisfaction in Comey’s handling of the Clinton email investigation.

 

Trump can’t understand the political dynamics in his firing of Comey, so it’s no wonder Trump is so easily played by Russia.

Trump has clearly been coddled in his figuratively small world where he could name reality and beat anyone who disagreed with a legal attack....

 

http://www.politicus...pper-yates.html


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Posted 03 May 2017 - 10:57 AM

Trump's extreme narcissistic condition does constitute some kind of a mental disorder.

However, for the most part, he's just an ignorant, stupid man, who has no respect for others.

He thinks so highly of himself that he feels that other people have to accept his outright bold-faced lies, just because they come from him.

The real people who are insane or those who voted for somebody who is incompetent, unreliable and not qualified for the position of president.
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Posted 03 May 2017 - 07:51 AM

 

 The so-called Goldwater Rule — named for the late Sen. Barry Goldwater, whom some psychiatrists took to calling crazy because of his foreign policy views — admonishes medical professionals not to opine on the mental health of people whom they had not examined. 

A doctor may not be able to make judgements about a person's heart, kidneys, or lungs by watching them on television; but psychiatry is different. Much of the diagnosis comes through observing speech and thought patterns as reflected in speech. So it is possible to diagnose someone like Trump, not because you don't like his opinions, but by observation over time.  


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Posted 03 May 2017 - 04:52 AM

When is it okay to say the president might be nuts?

https://www.washingt...st-draw5&wpmm=1

Is Trump nuts, ill-informed or a liar — or all three?

Until now, people who could have shed light on a president’s mental state were professionally hindered from doing so. The so-called Goldwater Rule — named for the late Sen. Barry Goldwater, whom some psychiatrists took to calling crazy because of his foreign policy views — admonishes medical professionals not to opine on the mental health of people whom they had not examined. In the context of Trump, however, there has been some buzz about doing away with the rule on the grounds that psychiatrists should be able to give their best medical judgment to “warn” the public.

Evan Osnos in the New Yorker waded into that debate in a piece questioning whether Trump might be removed under the 25th Amendment:

Lance Dodes, a retired assistant clinical professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, believes that, in this instance, the Goldwater rule is outweighed by another ethical commitment: a “duty to warn” others when he assesses that a person might harm them. Dodes told me, “Trump is going to face challenges from people who are not going to bend to his will. If you have a President who takes it as a personal attack on him, which he does, and flies into a paranoid rage, that’s how you start a war.”

Like many of his colleagues, Dodes speculates that Trump fits the description of someone with malignant narcissism, which is characterized by grandiosity, a need for admiration, sadism, and a tendency toward unrealistic fantasies. On February 13th, in a letter to the [New York] Times, Dodes and thirty-four other mental-health professionals wrote, “We fear that too much is at stake to be silent any longer.” In response, Allen Frances, a professor emeritus at Duke University Medical College, who wrote the section on narcissistic personality disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders—IV, sought to discourage the public diagnoses. Frances wrote, “He may be a world-class narcissist, but this doesn’t make him mentally ill, because he does not suffer from the distress and impairment required to diagnose mental disorder. . . . The antidote to a dystopic Trumpean dark age is political, not psychological.”



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 03:53 PM

Top psychiatrists at Yale conference warn that Trump has a ‘dangerous mental illness’-

 

“We have an ethical responsibility to warn the public about Donald Trump’s dangerous mental illness,” said Dr. John Gartner, a practicing psychotherapist...

 

“Worse than just being a liar or a narcissist, in addition he is paranoid, delusional and grandiose thinking and he proved that to the country the first day he was president,” Gartner explained. “If Donald Trump really believes he had the largest crowd size in history, that’s delusional.”

 

Dr. James Gilligan, a psychiatrist and professor at New York University, said...

"....I can recognize dangerousness from a mile away,” he said. “You don’t have to be an expert on dangerousness or spend fifty years studying it like I have in order to know how dangerous this man is.”....

 

http://www.rawstory....mental-illness/

 

An easy argument is that that it's irresponsible to make psychiatric judgments from afar. Can't he be forced to be personally examined and evaluated by a few of them?



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 03:44 PM

Top psychiatrists at Yale conference warn that Trump has a ‘dangerous mental illness’-

 

“We have an ethical responsibility to warn the public about Donald Trump’s dangerous mental illness,” said Dr. John Gartner, a practicing psychotherapist...

 

“Worse than just being a liar or a narcissist, in addition he is paranoid, delusional and grandiose thinking and he proved that to the country the first day he was president,” Gartner explained. “If Donald Trump really believes he had the largest crowd size in history, that’s delusional.”

 

Dr. James Gilligan, a psychiatrist and professor at New York University, said...

"....I can recognize dangerousness from a mile away,” he said. “You don’t have to be an expert on dangerousness or spend fifty years studying it like I have in order to know how dangerous this man is.”....

 

http://www.rawstory....mental-illness/


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 02:15 AM

er, yes ...


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Posted 13 April 2017 - 07:12 PM

I guess your criticism of Obama has no equivalence?  His decisive wins were even further in the past.

what foreign policy decisive wins further in the past? :P  :lol:

 

(we know about the bin laden hit)

 

go on... :lol:


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Posted 13 April 2017 - 06:01 PM

In Bizarre Fox Interview, Trump Talks About Chocolate Cake & Forgets What Country He Bombed-

 

"I love chocolate cake, too, Donald, but when you’re talking about bombing another country, maybe, just maybe that’s the time to not bring up the scrumptious chocolate cake that you and the President of China are sharing at Mar-A-Lago. Not only that, you’re so damn distracted by this chocolate cake that you forgot the country that you bombed. We got missiles headed to Iraq. You mean Syria? Oh, yeah, Syria, whatever. Here, back to the cake issue. That is crazy talk.

 

Furthermore, all it does is distract people from the initial questions that you were asked and the issue that you’re supposed to be talking about, but this is a common tactic from authoritarian people. You misdirect. You mislead...

 

https://trofire.com/...ntry-he-bombed/

 

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Posted 12 April 2017 - 11:22 PM

just juvenile name-calling by liberal sour grapers are are still secretly crying about last november. :lol:

 

I guess your criticism of Obama has no equivalence?  His decisive wins were even further in the past.



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Posted 12 April 2017 - 05:34 PM

 

As Toronto Star fact checker Daniel Dale put it, "Trump's Fox Business interview is highly dishonest and frequently bonkers."...........

 

Daniel Dale @ddale8

Here is Trump claiming, with zero evidence, that "many" Democratic congresspeople think his health plan is "incredible": pic.twitter.com/UYR9uT3akC

 

Here is Trump, with incredible audacity, saying "everybody" was waiting for Obama to launch the Syria strike Trump himself vocally opposed: pic.twitter.com/wvmSsgCCet

 

9:12 AM - 12 Apr 2017

 

Daniel Dale @ddale8

This is complete gibberish from the president. pic.twitter.com/egvBOWGsE2

 
 
Daniel Dale @ddale8

The president asked what his North Korea plan is: "You never know, do you. You never know."

 

just juvenile name-calling by liberal sour grapers are are still secretly crying about last november. :lol:


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Posted 12 April 2017 - 03:30 PM

As Toronto Star fact checker Daniel Dale put it, "Trump's Fox Business interview is highly dishonest and frequently bonkers."...........

 

Daniel Dale @ddale8

Here is Trump claiming, with zero evidence, that "many" Democratic congresspeople think his health plan is "incredible": pic.twitter.com/UYR9uT3akC

Here is Trump, with incredible audacity, saying "everybody" was waiting for Obama to launch the Syria strike Trump himself vocally opposed: pic.twitter.com/wvmSsgCCet

 

9:12 AM - 12 Apr 2017

 

Daniel Dale @ddale8

This is complete gibberish from the president. pic.twitter.com/egvBOWGsE2

 
 
Daniel Dale @ddale8

The president asked what his North Korea plan is: "You never know, do you. You never know."

 


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Posted 12 April 2017 - 08:45 AM

He's certainly on the slippery slope toward that status.



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Posted 12 April 2017 - 04:46 AM

Maybe more proof that he is really as dumb as a post rather than completely insane...



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 08:59 PM

He has to. The wolves are at his door, and now he appoints Ivanka to be his special assistant. MORE controversy, and a startling lack of judgment. His mind doesn't work the way it's supposed to. Or he has unbridled arrogance.


"Unbridled Arrogance"-Trump wouldn't be the first rich egotistical megalomaniac to be in this category.

From William Randolph Hearst,John D Rockefeller, The Koch Brothers, Steve Bannon, to The Mercer family--


all modern-day oligarchs who think they upsurp and manipulate the democracy.

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 11:20 AM

He has to. The wolves are at his door, and now he appoints Ivanka to be his special assistant. MORE controversy, and a startling lack of judgment. His mind doesn't work the way it's supposed to. Or he has unbridled arrogance.

 

You may be right on BOTH counts.


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