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#121 JakeHolman

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Posted 28 March 2017 - 12:14 PM

Clearly many Latino politicians here in CA what the state to become part of Mexico.  At a minimum they want EU type borders.

 

I.e.  people can move from Mexico to CA back and forth without any papers or need for legal status.  

Don't think most of the folks of Sacramento & N Cali. want that.


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Posted 28 March 2017 - 12:03 PM

Dargo--

You live in Arizona. I used to live in Albuquerque--(I could tell you stories about Gary Johnson, but some other time).

Well, anyway a number of Latinos in the state were always talking about how it was all going to belong to Mexico-- because it had originally belonged to Mexico.

It seems as though there were actually some organized efforts in that direction.

Some often referred to the state as Mexico. Is that sort of thing going on in Arizona too?

 

Clearly many Latino politicians here in CA what the state to become part of Mexico.  At a minimum they want EU type borders.

 

I.e.  people can move from Mexico to CA back and forth without any papers or need for legal status.  



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Posted 28 March 2017 - 12:01 PM

Eeh! It'll never happen.

Wait! Now, I've TOLD myself never to say "never" ever again after the election of this embarrassing Man-Child as POTUS. And so, forget what I just said here, Jake.

(...and so hell, who knows...you MIGHT be right AFTERALL!!!)

LOL


Dargo--

You live in Arizona. I used to live in Albuquerque--(I could tell you stories about Gary Johnson, but some other time).

Well, anyway a number of Latinos in the state were always talking about how it was all going to belong to Mexico-- because it had originally belonged to Mexico.

It seems as though there were actually some organized efforts in that direction.

Some often referred to the state as Mexico. Is that sort of thing going on in Arizona too?

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Posted 28 March 2017 - 12:00 PM

So now there's a third plan to split California??

 

I already know about the plan for California to secede from the union

http://www.yescalifornia.org/

http://www.wisn.com/...m-union/8355355

 

And i know of the plan to create the State of Jefferson by carving out the new state from some northern California counties and southern Oregon counties

.http://www.soj51.net/

 

But i never heard of this third way...Californians must be crazy!!

 

These are just silly plans created by bored people that have zero chance of going anywhere.

 

They shouldn't even be getting any press.  The really crazy people are the ones that take these plans seriously.


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Posted 28 March 2017 - 11:59 AM

So now there's a third plan to split California??

 

I already know about the plan for California to secede from the union

http://www.yescalifornia.org/

http://www.wisn.com/...m-union/8355355

 

And i know of the plan to create the State of Jefferson by carving out the new state from some northern California counties and southern Oregon counties

.http://www.soj51.net/

 

But i never heard of this third way...Californians are crazy!!



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Posted 28 March 2017 - 11:45 AM

(...hell, who knows...you MIGHT be right AFTERALL!!!)

The Dims have a lock on the State. Have for a long time. Know someone who I keep in touch who lives in California. Anecdotal but he tells me there is a simmering desire to make some kind of change.


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And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Genesis 1:2

 

If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under. President Ronald Reagan

 

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Posted 28 March 2017 - 11:39 AM

Don't think this won't gain ground. The Deplorables want a split from the Libtards. Sensible solution.

 

Eeh! It'll never happen.

 

Wait! Now, I've TOLD myself never to say "never" ever again after the election of this embarrassing Man-Child as POTUS. And so, forget what I just said here, Jake.

 

(...and so hell, who knows...you MIGHT be right AFTERALL!!!)

 

LOL



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Posted 28 March 2017 - 11:31 AM

Don't think this won't gain ground. The Deplorables want a split from the Libtards. Sensible solution.


This most beautiful system of the sun, planets and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being. Isaac Newton  

 

And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Genesis 1:2

 

If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under. President Ronald Reagan

 

In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength.  Gen. Robert E. Lee

 

The principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form.   Jefferson Davis
 
Movies are written in sand: applauded today, forgotten tomorrow. D.W Griffith
 
I would rather wake up in the middle of nowhere than in any city on earth. Steve McQueen
 
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. George Orwell
 
Perfect freedom has no existence. The grown man knows the world he lives in, and for the present, the world is Rome. Ben Hur 

A man's got to have a code, a creed to live by, no matter his job. The Immortal John Wayne


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Posted 28 March 2017 - 11:31 AM

Dargo--

Then I bet you don't want to hear what I think they ought to do with
Western Kansas. LMREO

 

Is that where they've never gotten over that whole Carrie Nation thing, Princess?

 

(...in other words, is that where they still have dry counties?)



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Posted 28 March 2017 - 10:50 AM

Yeah, yeah, ham, I know.

It's just that whenever I see ANY kind of examples of humanity's bent toward tribalistic behavior, and be it based upon differing ethnic, cultural, religious or political thought and how people "want to be of their own kind" and can't seem to find common ground, it kind of rankles me.

(...and the example of Yugoslavia's history comes to mind)


Dargo--

Then I bet you don't want to hear what I think they ought to do with
Western Kansas. LMREO
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Posted 28 March 2017 - 10:44 AM

The former Yugoslavia had far larger, bitter inter ethinic issues that festered for a long time.  Bad comparison for the silly stuff in California.  Took an iron fist rule in Yugoslavia just to hold it together. (Thank you Tito?)

 

https://en.wikipedia...p_of_Yugoslavia

 

Yeah, yeah, ham, I know.

 

It's just that whenever I see ANY kind of examples of humanity's bent toward tribalistic behavior, and be it based upon differing ethnic, cultural, religious or political thought and how people "want to be of their own kind" and can't seem to find common ground, it kind of rankles me.

 

(...and the example of Yugoslavia's history comes to mind)



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Posted 28 March 2017 - 10:32 AM

This whole thread makes as much sense as splitting Texas into five states or splitting many other states.  How about we split Florida or maybe Mississippi?

I am sure you could find alternative fact reasons for splitting most states.



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Posted 28 March 2017 - 10:19 AM

The former Yugoslavia had far larger, bitter inter ethnic issues that festered for a long time.  Bad comparison for the silly stuff in California.  Took an iron fist rule against the ethnic fighting in Yugoslavia just to hold it together. Thank you Tito?

 

https://en.wikipedia...p_of_Yugoslavia

 

Like to add Tito, the least oppressive communist  leader, was one of the founding members of the Non-align Movement refusing to join the Warsaw Pact.  The only communist country the United States had very good relations with giving, believe it or not economic and military aid. That made him a thorn in the Soviet Union side.

 

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Posted 28 March 2017 - 02:02 AM

But...but...surely Donny Boy wouldn't support this furthering of divisions within this country of ours(perhaps best thought of as an "American Balkanization", and just as what happened to Yugoslavia after Tito died and THOSE idiots found they couldn't get along anymore), now would HE???

Because of course, and as his hot-headed White House press secretary often says about his boss, "He's a unifier"!

LOL

(...actually, regarding the splitting up of the state of California, this idea has been floated for decades upon decades in a few quarters, BUT it's always been talked about in terms of splitting northern California from southern California at just about the northern border of coastal Santa Barbara County and east along the Tehachapi mountain range...and NOT along any kind of dumb*** demarcation lines set between "those damn snotty pretentious coastal elites" and "those damn dumb hicks that live inland"!)


Bad News Dargo--

Mrs. Donald Trump is from the former Yugoslavia--her part is now called Slovenia. So she might go for splitting up your native state.

This kind of reminds me of another dictator's wife - - The Empress Josephine.

The French Revolution had abolished slavery--but Josephine was a girl from Martinique and she liked being waited upon by black slaves.

So she convinced Napoleon to reinstate slavery in the Empire.


Dargo, there's no accounting for the influence of a dictator's wife. LOL
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Posted 28 March 2017 - 01:16 AM

But...but...surely Donny Boy wouldn't support this furthering of divisions within this country of ours(perhaps best thought of as an "American Balkanization", and just as what happened to Yugoslavia after Tito died and THOSE idiots found they couldn't get along anymore), now would HE???

 

Because of course, and as his hot-headed White House press secretary often says about his boss, "He's a unifier"!

 

LOL

 

(...actually, regarding the splitting up of the state of California, this idea has been floated for decades upon decades, BUT it's always been talked about in terms of splitting northern California from southern California at just about the northern border of coastal Santa Barbara County and east along the Tehachapi mountain range, and NOT along any kind of dumb*** demarcation lines set between "those damn snotty and pretentious coastal elites" and "those damn dumb hicks that live inland"!)


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 11:24 PM

Might be a little more complicated than they think. :)

Presidential-election-results-by-Califor


Curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid get.


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 09:45 PM

Get ready for Calexit! Now Nigel Farage and the 'Bad Boys of Brexit' set their sights on splitting California in two
Farage and Banks, who led the 'Leave.EU' campaign, appear to be pitting the eastern, more rural side of California against the western 'coastal elite' liberals in Los Angeles and San Francisco.
3EA6869300000578-4350388-Farage_and_Bank

 

A 10.0 might remedy the problem. ;)

 

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 08:36 PM

Get ready for Calexit! Now Nigel Farage and the 'Bad Boys of Brexit' set their sights on splitting California in two
Farage and Banks, who led the 'Leave.EU' campaign, appear to be pitting the eastern, more rural side of California against the western 'coastal elite' liberals in Los Angeles and San Francisco.
3EA6869300000578-4350388-Farage_and_Bank
The Daily Mail >> http://www.dailymail...ok-Calexit.htmlaudience-clapping-smiley-emoticon.gif


This most beautiful system of the sun, planets and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being. Isaac Newton  

 

And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Genesis 1:2

 

If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under. President Ronald Reagan

 

In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength.  Gen. Robert E. Lee

 

The principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form.   Jefferson Davis
 
Movies are written in sand: applauded today, forgotten tomorrow. D.W Griffith
 
I would rather wake up in the middle of nowhere than in any city on earth. Steve McQueen
 
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. George Orwell
 
Perfect freedom has no existence. The grown man knows the world he lives in, and for the present, the world is Rome. Ben Hur 

A man's got to have a code, a creed to live by, no matter his job. The Immortal John Wayne





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