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Gay Bait and Switch


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#21 rayban

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 11:14 AM

What do you think causes it? Not sure if reluctance is the word. But what makes them hold back from telling the complete story for these characters?

Well, we don't know how much was shot for the gay storylines and how much of the footage hit the cutting-room floor.

 

For these sci-fi films that are marketed to teen males and twenty-somethings, I'd use three words - box-office receipts.

 

But how many of these guys (teens plus) know more than a little about gay sex?

 

I'd say that the filmmakers are deceiving themselves. 


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Posted 28 May 2017 - 10:46 PM

What do you think causes it? Not sure if reluctance is the word. But what makes them hold back from telling the complete story for these characters?


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#23 jaragon

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 10:57 AM

I'm getting a bit tired of studios using a gay character to sell a film and then either cut all obvious gay references or cut them out all together-in "Alien Covenant" which makes a big deal about the crew being made of up of couples- but unless you see the "The Last Supper" prologue on line you would never know that Lope and Hallet are suppose to be gay.  In "Star Trek" they made Sulu gay but his "husband" might as well have been his brother. 


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