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#41 Princess of Tap

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Posted 09 July 2017 - 12:34 AM

Day 170




" Patriotism is When Love of your Own People comes first;

Nationalism, When Hate for People Other than your own comes first. "




Charles de Gaulle--


Leader and General of Free France during World War II

Head of the Provisional Government of the French Republic after World War II

Founder and 1st President of the French 5th Republic (1958-1969)

#42 Princess of Tap

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Posted 08 July 2017 - 12:00 AM

Day 169




" No one is more arrogant toward women, more aggressive or scornful,
than the man who is anxious about his virility. "




Simone de Beauvoir, French writer, feminist, existentialist philosopher

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Posted 07 July 2017 - 04:05 PM

Day 168




" The Highest Result of Education is Tolerance. "





" The Idea of Brotherhood redawns upon the world with a broader significance than the narrow association of members in a sect or creed..."




-- Helen Keller, American writer, socialist, feminist and activist for the disabled (1880-1968)

that first one is screwy and shows what is wrong with education today.

 

what exactly is the correlation between tolerance and reading, writing and math? if you're talking about scholastic education, none.

 

and that is what is wrong. liberals no longer differentiate between the scholastic and the ideological and maybe that best explains the current state of american public education. 60 years ago american parents did not send their kids to school for concepts of social justice but reading, writing and math.

 

american public educators have long forgotten what should never have been forgotten. they have purposely and deliberately with consciousness of forethought have thrown out those 3 basics of modern education in favor of liberal counterculture rigamarol of the last 50 years.

 

it is a betrayal and a breaking of trust.


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Posted 07 July 2017 - 12:32 AM

Day 168




" The Highest Result of Education is Tolerance. "





" The Idea of Brotherhood redawns upon the world with a broader significance than the narrow association of members in a sect or creed..."




-- Helen Keller, American writer, socialist, feminist and activist for the disabled (1880-1968)

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 12:25 AM

Day 167





" Repetition does not transform a Lie into a Truth. "




" No man can occupy the Office of President without realizing that he is President of All the People. "




-- Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 32nd president of the United States of America,
1933-1945



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Posted 06 July 2017 - 12:24 AM

Day 166



" When I was a boy I was told anybody could become president; I'm beginning to believe it. "


--Clarence Darrow, a renown American lawyer who was a leader in the ACLU and the counsel who defended evolution in the Scopes Monkey Trial



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Posted 06 July 2017 - 12:24 AM

Day 165

Fourth of July 2017


" You know that being an American is more than a matter of where your parents came from.

It's a belief that all men are created free and equal

And that everyone deserves an even break. "



Harry S Truman, 33rd President of the United States of America



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Posted 06 July 2017 - 12:22 AM

Day 167





" Repetition does not transform a Lie into a Truth. "




" No man can occupy the Office of President without realizing that he is President of All the People. "




-- Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 32nd president of the United States of America,
1933-1945

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 12:19 AM

 

Day 166



" When I was a boy I was told anybody could become president; I'm beginning to believe it. "


--Clarence Darrow, a renown American lawyer who was a leader in the ACLU and the counsel who defended evolution in the Scopes Monkey Trial

 

 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 12:14 AM

Day 166



" When I was a boy I was told anybody could become president; I'm beginning to believe it. "


--Clarence Darrow, a renown American lawyer who was a leader in the ACLU and the counsel who defended evolution in the Scopes Monkey Trial



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Posted 05 July 2017 - 10:06 AM

 

I have no allusions of turning back the hands of time...just a sensible maintaining of rational standards of moral conduct for all.

 

Oh?  And according to WHOSE standards?  You seem to forget......

 

The KLAN thought that's what THEY were doing.

 

And Irish protestants in regards to their persecution of Irish Catholics.  And vice-versa.

 

Plus you also seem to overlook the part of the 1st amendment that states:

 

"Congress shall make no law in the establishment of religion, or prohibit the free exercise thereof."

 

I suggest you watch the TWILIGHT ZONE episode titled :The Mind And The Matter".  Especially the last half. 

 

 

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Posted 05 July 2017 - 07:30 AM

conservatives never wanted to get into a **** for tat battle with the courts but simply strove to maintain time-tested and time-honored standards of human moral decency but when progressive elements could see that they were never gonna win over great masses of people, they cheated.

 

using the courts for judicial activism as a means of arbitrary implementation of non-christian ideals. it is they who boxed conservatism into a corner leaving them no option but an immense power grab and reversing this trend with traditional judicial interpreters like gorsuch.

 

the left started this and the right will finish it...for a 40 year cycle maybe. :D

 

I have no allusions of turning back the hands of time...just a sensible maintaining of rational standards of moral conduct for all.

 

SSM? whatever. some moral degradation as we head for the events prophecised in the book of revalations is unavoidable.

 

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Posted 05 July 2017 - 07:10 AM

I really like these posts you've been making here PRINCESS, but I have one correction to imply....

 

CLARENCE DARROW  didn't  "defend" evolution.  But argued for the right to have it taught and considered.

 

But that quote is kind of funny.  I remember both when WAY back in school when a teacher made that "anybody can become president" remark like it was a good  thing that it didn't really sound like such a "good" thing to me.

 

I also remember many a teacher over the years telling the old tale of the little Soviet boy and girl overhearing their Mother and Father saying "bad" things about the Soviet government and reported them to the authoriteis.  And the parents were arrested and sent to Siberia while the boy and girl became wards of the government and were sent to live in another household.  And ALWAYS ended the story by asking, "So don't you feel LUCKY to live in a country where you CAN say bad things about the government and NOT get in any trouble or go to jail?"  Only to notice, over the years, that it wasn't really true.

 

 

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 11:45 PM

Day 166



" When I was a boy I was told anybody could become president; I'm beginning to believe it. "


--Clarence Darrow, a renown American lawyer who was a leader in the ACLU and the counsel who defended evolution in the Scopes Monkey Trial
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Posted 04 July 2017 - 11:35 PM

Day 165

Fourth of July 2017


" You know that being an American is more than a matter of where your parents came from.

It's a belief that all men are created free and equal

And that everyone deserves an even break. "



Harry S Truman, 33rd President of the United States of America



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Posted 04 July 2017 - 09:04 PM

With regards to SSM;   I'm 100% fine with people that do NOT 'accept' or support SSM.   What I'm NOT fine with is individuals that wish to deny others the right to be in a SSM by passing laws that ban SSM.   

 

No one should have to surrender their moral standards;   That means folks against SSM should never be force to attend one or that religious institutions forced to perform one.     But this also means that people should be legally allowed to enter into a SSM since otherwise they would have to surrender to their moral standard.

 

Didn't we cover this before?    It was my understanding you do NOT wish to ban SSM (make it illegal) since that would be imposing your moral standard on others which you say you're against.     

 

Therefore I don't understand why you keep mentioning SSM and why you're upset by liberals related to SSM.    Provide me ONE example where liberals have asked you to surrender your moral standards?       You can't because that is fake news.

 

(oh and having to bake a cake is NOT surrender one's moral standard unless their moral code doesn't allow them to bake a cake for anyone,  in which case they are in the wrong business).

This was covered by a recent letter writer to the editors of The Detroit Free Press.

 

It suggested that if a baker claimed the right to refuse service due to religious "moral" convictions concernng a cake for a SSM,  then the writer asked if that baker also refused service, based on those convictions, to adulterers, any who didn't honor their parent, any who coveted their meighbor's wives, used the Lord's name in vain or didn't keep the sabbath holy.  Then their claim of "religious moral conviction" is just a mask for their prejudices.

 

Plus, I never understood the banal argument that SSM puts "traditional" marriage "in danger".  In danger of what?  And anyway...

 

How does Frank and Ted getting married keep Tom and Nancy from having a "traditional" marriage?

 

 

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 05:23 PM

yeah, but the problem is that too many people wanna acknowledge and worship God on their own terms and in their own way even picking and choosing from the bible what they like and doan like.

 

I mean why even try to believe in God at all if that is the way one is going to approach it?

 

a five year-old child will do that, only being a child, but adult men and women must think a little better than that. it certainly is obvious from jefferson's words that he wanted to acknowledge God and that is all I'm saying but the initial post I was responding to was a charge that alotta conservatives want to deny the obvious equality of all men and I would suggest that is a very hard proposition for anyone who believes in the sovereignty of God over men.

 

it seems to me that in relation to certain contemporary social issues like same-sex marriage that if someone has moral-religious objections those objections are tantamount to bigotry and prejudice...

 

not in my universe. since these are contentious issues I am the type of person who would not challenge them unless first challenged on them myself...

 

but for an arrogant bunch of haulty political correctists to expect many older generational americans to surrender moral standards they have held for the durations of their adult lives is an exercise in unbridled arrogant intolerance.

 

multitudes of americans will refuse to do so.

:)

 

With regards to SSM;   I'm 100% fine with people that do NOT 'accept' or support SSM.   What I'm NOT fine with is individuals that wish to deny others the right to be in a SSM by passing laws that ban SSM.   

 

No one should have to surrender their moral standards;   That means folks against SSM should never be force to attend one or that religious institutions forced to perform one.     But this also means that people should be legally allowed to enter into a SSM since otherwise they would have to surrender to their moral standard.

 

Didn't we cover this before?    It was my understanding you do NOT wish to ban SSM (make it illegal) since that would be imposing your moral standard on others which you say you're against.     

 

Therefore I don't understand why you keep mentioning SSM and why you're upset by liberals related to SSM.    Provide me ONE example where liberals have asked you to surrender your moral standards?       You can't because that is fake news.

 

(oh and having to bake a cake is NOT surrender one's moral standard unless their moral code doesn't allow them to bake a cake for anyone,  in which case they are in the wrong business).


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Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:33 PM

nvm... online religious debates are pointless quagmires. 



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Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:32 PM

Yeah, Donny's interested in the plight of the working class. Maybe they

can tell him about their concerns at one of his $35,000 a plate dinners.

 

Master Tom, a strong believer in God and a strong believer in white

supremacy. What a role model. Worthless bastard.

 

There is a third proposition--Man is man.

 

I like the Baron d'Holbach. He didn't mess with any of this half way in,

half way out deist garbage. Straight up atheist. God bless you, Baron.

 

God is a concept by which we measure our pain. I won't say it again. :)

 

 

 

 


Curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid get.


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Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:01 PM

 Now I'm an atheist so yea,  I clearly 'deny God'  (like I deny all myths),  but not every liberal is an atheist.   I believe the majority of liberals in the USA believe in God.   

 

Also,  not every atheist is a liberal.     E.g. I lean Libertarian.   Yea, I'm a social liberal but not a fiscal one.

 

You clearly overgeneralize.    But hey, if that is what we are doing here then all conservatives are racist.    Yea, see how silly that is.   

yeah, but the problem is that too many people wanna acknowledge and worship God on their own terms and in their own way even picking and choosing from the bible what they like and doan like.

 

I mean why even try to believe in God at all if that is the way one is going to approach it?

 

a five year-old child will do that, only being a child, but adult men and women must think a little better than that. it certainly is obvious from jefferson's words that he wanted to acknowledge God and that is all I'm saying but the initial post I was responding to was a charge that alotta conservatives want to deny the obvious equality of all men and I would suggest that is a very hard proposition for anyone who believes in the sovereignty of God over men.

 

it seems to me that in relation to certain contemporary social issues like same-sex marriage that if someone has moral-religious objections those objections are tantamount to bigotry and prejudice...

 

not in my universe. since these are contentious issues I am the type of person who would not challenge them unless first challenged on them myself...

 

but for an arrogant bunch of haulty political correctists to expect many older generational americans to surrender moral standards they have held for the durations of their adult lives is an exercise in unbridled arrogant intolerance.

 

multitudes of americans will refuse to do so.

:)


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