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Posted 16 July 2015 - 10:19 AM

Will post if I hear any news. 

Good. I will be checking back for updates. :)


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Posted 15 July 2015 - 10:08 PM

I hope you're right...CENTENNIAL SUMMER deserves a home video release.

Will post if I hear any news. 


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Posted 15 July 2015 - 07:11 PM

Twilght Time is hit and miss with extras unlike Criterion.  They may have a commentary track.  Most likely this title is coming in the near future since the company licensed a restored soundtrack album like they did with STORMY WEATHER another FOX musical.

I hope you're right...CENTENNIAL SUMMER deserves a home video release.


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Posted 15 July 2015 - 07:01 PM

If it's restored, or there are extras, then the price is justifiable on some level.

Twilght Time is hit and miss with extras unlike Criterion.  They may have a commentary track.  Most likely this title is coming in the near future since the company licensed a restored soundtrack album like they did with STORMY WEATHER another FOX musical.


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Posted 15 July 2015 - 03:33 PM

TWILIGHT TIME pricey.....$29.95 per disc.

If it's restored, or there are extras, then the price is justifiable on some level.


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Posted 15 July 2015 - 02:52 PM

Fingers crossed. Toes crossed too!

TWILIGHT TIME pricey.....$29.95 per disc.



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Posted 15 July 2015 - 01:42 PM

TWILIGHT TIME has CENTENNIAL SUMMER as a possible BLU RAY release.  Nothing definite as yet.  Since they released a soundtrack album it seems likely a video release is forthcoming.

Fingers crossed. Toes crossed too!


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Posted 14 July 2015 - 10:46 PM

Glad to read you're enjoying it, Edgecliffe. 

TWILIGHT TIME has CENTENNIAL SUMMER as a possible BLU RAY release.  Nothing definite as yet.  Since they released a soundtrack album it seems likely a video release is forthcoming.


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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:29 PM

The soundtrack CD of CENTENNIAL SUMMER that has been released is quite marvelous. So many lovely waltzes from Alfred Newman.

Glad to read you're enjoying it, Edgecliffe. 


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Posted 26 May 2015 - 11:09 PM

And still no CENTENNIAL SUMMER. Unbelievable!


The soundtrack CD of CENTENNIAL SUMMER that has been released is quite marvelous. So many lovely waltzes from Alfred Newman.
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Posted 24 May 2015 - 04:11 PM

2 NEW TITLES:


DEAR BRIGETTE (1965) - James Stewart, Fabian, Glynis Johns
SAD HORSE (1959) - David Ladd, Chill Wills, Patrice Wymore

Not sure if these two titles will be widescreen or most likely pan and scan knowing FOX.

And still no CENTENNIAL SUMMER. Unbelievable!


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Posted 24 May 2015 - 04:09 PM

2 NEW TITLES:


DEAR BRIGETTE (1965) - James Stewart, Fabian, Glynis Johns
SAD HORSE (1959) - David Ladd, Chill Wills, Patrice Wymore

Not sure if these two titles will be widescreen or most likely pan and scan knowing FOX.

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 07:30 PM

CARNIVAL IN COSTA RICA is another Fox Technicolor musical from the 40s that is missing in action. I suppose Dick Haymes is not very well remembered now, though he was in the second version of STATE FAIR. His CARNIVAL costars include Vera-Ellen, Cesar Romero and Celeste Holm.

 

I'd very much like to see it.


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Posted 13 April 2015 - 04:38 PM

I don't know exactly when in his career that Warner Baxter expressed that lament about some of his film role choices. Possibly it was towards the end, when he was trapped in a series of Crime Doctor "B"s at a time when film producers were no longer interested in him. During the '30s, after getting his Oscar as the Cisco Kid (a pretty ripe hammy performance, I might add) he repeated his role as the Kid in a few other westerns, as well.

 

I would think that Baxter is best remembered today for his harried musical producer in 42nd Street (and it's a pretty solid performance, too, I think), with Fox's King of Burlesque clearly derivative of that role.

 

But Baxter had his effective stretches as an actor, too, with 1936 a particularly fine year for him, with two films directed by legends, Howard Hawks in The Road to Glory and John Ford in Prisoner of Shark Island (my favourite Baxter performance as Dr. Samuel A. Mudd). In both those instances the directors and scripts proved to be a blessing for Baxter, delivering convincing, sympathetic performances as men cursed by circumstances.

I think this happened with Chester Morris, too, who wound up doing a truckload of Boston Black-ie films in the 1940s. But Morris eventually left Hollywood for the stage where he sort of reinvented himself. 

 

As for Baxter, I love the comedy he did with Loretta Young called WIFE, HUSBAND AND FRIEND where she is trying to be a professional opera singer and winds up being upstaged by her husband (Baxter) who is more talented. It was remade a decade later with Paul Douglas and Celeste Holm, as EVERYBODY DOES IT.

 

Baxter could handle lighter material with ease.


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Posted 13 April 2015 - 03:24 PM

I am not against stars repeating certain kinds of roles. And I am not against typecasting-- because the upside of it is that certain parts become their signature or calling card-- they become specialists in specific types of characterizations. After all, only one person can play a hotel desk clerk the way Franklin Pangborn does, so he will keep getting requested for it. And logically, if Actor X played the same sort of role in picture after picture, they would have it perfected. 

 

But there is the other angle where serious performers want to stretch themselves and do other characters.

I don't know exactly when in his career that Warner Baxter expressed that lament about some of his film role choices. Possibly it was towards the end, when he was trapped in a series of Crime Doctor "B"s at a time when film producers were no longer interested in him. During the '30s, after getting his Oscar as the Cisco Kid (a pretty ripe hammy performance, I might add) he repeated his role as the Kid in a few other westerns, as well.

 

I would think that Baxter is best remembered today for his harried musical producer in 42nd Street (and it's a pretty solid performance, too, I think), with Fox's King of Burlesque clearly derivative of that role.

 

But Baxter had his effective stretches as an actor, too, with 1936 a particularly fine year for him, with two films directed by legends, Howard Hawks in The Road to Glory and John Ford in Prisoner of Shark Island (my favourite Baxter performance as Dr. Samuel A. Mudd). In both those instances the directors and scripts proved to be a blessing for Baxter, delivering convincing, sympathetic performances as men cursed by circumstances.


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Posted 13 April 2015 - 02:02 PM

In reference to this, Warner Baxter later said, "After I had repeated 42nd Street several times, it occured to me that actors, drugged by pride, can make first class a s s e s  of themselves."

I am not against stars repeating certain kinds of roles. And I am not against typecasting-- because the upside of it is that certain parts become their signature or calling card-- they become specialists in specific types of characterizations. After all, only one person can play a hotel desk clerk the way Franklin Pangborn does, so he will keep getting requested for it. And logically, if Actor X played the same sort of role in picture after picture, they would have it perfected. 

 

But there is the other angle where serious performers want to stretch themselves and do other characters.


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Posted 13 April 2015 - 01:24 PM

And I think that is exactly why Zanuck would have cast him. Often, (and we call this typecasting) actors who do well with an earlier role are in reality "auditioning" for the many similar roles that will come their way during the later stages of their careers.

In reference to this, Warner Baxter later said, "After I had repeated 42nd Street several times, it occured to me that actors, drugged by pride, can make first class a s s e s  of themselves."



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Posted 12 April 2015 - 11:15 AM

I finally got in the mail and viewed King of Burlesque, part of the Fox Cinema Classics collection. The print quality is quite good, considering the age of this production.

 

...Difficult to watch this film featuring Warner Baxter as a burlesque-gone-to-Broadway musical producer without thinking of his more famous similar turn just two years earlier in Warners' 42nd Street. 

 

And I think that is exactly why Zanuck would have cast him. Often, (and we call this typecasting) actors who do well with an earlier role are in reality "auditioning" for the many similar roles that will come their way during the later stages of their careers.


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Posted 12 April 2015 - 09:20 AM

I finally got in the mail and viewed King of Burlesque, part of the Fox Cinema Classics collection. The print quality is quite good, considering the age of this production.

 

The musical itself is quite fun, with an engaging cast of players. Difficult to watch this film featuring Warner Baxter as a burlesque-gone-to-Broadway musical producer without thinking of his more famous similar turn just two years earlier in Warners' 42nd Street. Baxter is likable and, of course, in the true tradition of films of this nature, blind to the fact that his musical star (Alice Faye) has a thing for him while he is obsessed with a society lady with "class." Jack Oakie is his usual dependable comic support self. Oakie brings an engaging comic attitude to his charactcer, even when the dialogue he is given is less than first rate.

 

If there's a familiarity to this film's story (and there is) and a deja vu quality about the cliches, that still doesn't detract too much for fans of this kind of film used to the plot contrivances and conventions of stage-set musicals. It's really only what you expect, and fans of Alice Faye will be pleased to see her effectively singing and dancing on stage in tights, even if, dramatically, the film asks very little of her.


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Posted 12 April 2015 - 12:01 AM

TopBilled, some of CENTENNIAL SUMMER is posted on You Tube. Sorry to say its ghastly looking. All washed out. Maybe this is why no print has surfaced as yet since the film needs major restoration. Don't know where the clips came from.

Thanks for the heads up. My copy doesn't look so bad. Maybe I was lucky in terms of the person I bought mine from online...? Other Fox classics have gotten restorations. This film truly deserves similar consideration by the studio.


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