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Rain (1932)


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#1 rayban

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Posted 15 April 2017 - 10:37 AM

I agree with the praise above. Crawford is perfect and there's not a weak moment in the supporting performances. In this print it's trimmed so short that you almost have to already know it's there, but Huston's last moments are outrageous - cocking his head slightly as the drums swell and twitching slightly as he apparently fights against surrendering to a pagan Pago Pago dance. Some people criticize Huston's stiff (sorry), abrasive performance, even calling it a "caricature," but I grew up in a tiny town dominated by an evangelistic church and I witnessed this sort of predatory behavior. Huston nails it. Given the 35-40 year difference, Huston probably underplays the role.

In the re-make, Rita Hayworth and Jose Ferrer were also an interesting combo.


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Posted 05 April 2017 - 06:09 PM

I agree with the praise above. Crawford is perfect and there's not a weak moment in the supporting performances. In this print it's trimmed so short that you almost have to already know it's there, but Huston's last moments are outrageous - cocking his head slightly as the drums swell and twitching slightly as he apparently fights against surrendering to a pagan Pago Pago dance. Some people criticize Huston's stiff (sorry), abrasive performance, even calling it a "caricature," but I grew up in a tiny town dominated by an evangelistic church and I witnessed this sort of predatory behavior. Huston nails it. Given the 35-40 year difference, Huston probably underplays the role.
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 11:07 AM

From what I've read, Joan Crawford didn't have a very good opinion of the movie

 

Maybe because it performed badly at the box office.

 

And she wanted Clark Gable as her co-star.


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 12:06 PM

Good but the Gloria Swanson version is better.

and she was absolutely stunning in the movie,if she was not the most gorgeous of the silent era she must have been very close for the title...


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 01:23 PM

It's a terrific film that stays true to Somerset Maugham's short story.  The performance are great, and the sets and overall production evoke the tropics beautifully. It's one of my favorite Pre-Code films as well.


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Posted 28 June 2016 - 04:19 PM

Oh it is very good, I didn't know there was a Rita H. version. I liked the one with Joan Crawford and Walter Huston. I part of me roots for Sadie cos Huston's character I truly disliked--though well played....if I didn't like him, then Huston didn;t do a good job, but he did. I always thought the character overreacted when Sadie did anything so much as blink...maybe he had a secret attraction to her. This truly a great pre-code movie, cos at the end, "evil" wins and Sadie's back to her old self and the "good" perished after committing the rape. I can't remember one of Sadie's last lines. It was when Huston's wife apologized for what he did to her, and Sadie, with no real malice in her heart says something to the effect of "I feel sorry for everyone today" or something along those lines. Great movie, a fave Joan Crawford movie (her hair colour is even different, and I seem to recall her saying she didn't like the which is closer to her real hair colour when she didn't dye it dark--she's a natural freckled faced red head!) Watch it! Watch it!


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Posted 19 February 2016 - 11:49 AM

As an early pre-code version of some very controversial subject-matter, Lewis Milestone's "Rain" is a terrific film.

 

Joan Crawford gives a mesmerizing performance.

 

And William Gargan is very good, too.

 

About the Rita Hayworth version, wasn't it originally filmed in 3-D and intended to be a musical version of the material?


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Posted 16 November 2015 - 05:14 AM

Good but the Gloria Swanson version is better.



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Posted 22 June 2015 - 01:04 AM

I had seen scenes that was from the silent version of Miss Sadie Thompson starring Gloria Swanson. For example the natives who found the body of the religious man.



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Posted 11 April 2015 - 11:02 AM

I would like to echo the sentiments of others who are praising the virtues of the 1932 version. It was a rare loan out for Crawford during her MGM years. The production has a few creaky moments, betraying stage origins. But Crawford is really great, and so is the rest of the cast. I love the way Milestone includes those poetic shots of the landscape. 

 

This is easily in my top five favorite pre-code films. It's one of those pictures that I go back to often that seems to bring even deeper pleasure. 

 

The main thing the Hayworth version has over this one is Technicolor, but color is not necessary to tell this story.


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Posted 01 October 2014 - 06:19 PM

'A prostitute finds redemption in Pago Pago thanks to a hard (boldface mine) missionary man'.

 

i cannot believe the brief description (tagline) of this movie is posted on the imdb.

 

somebody ought to fix it.         :lol:


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 09:29 PM

MISS SADIE THOMPSON (1953) was the Rita H. version.

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 08:24 PM

When did the Rita Hayworth version come out again? 

MISS SADIE THOMPSON (1953) was the Rita H. version.


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Posted 09 September 2014 - 10:14 PM

When did the Rita Hayworth version come out again? 


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Posted 07 September 2014 - 12:55 PM

I have seen the Rita Hayworth version and don't think it hold's a candle to the Crawford/Huston version.  Rita H. is not a favorite actress of mine.  Gorgeous actress but not in Crawford's acting/screen persona league IMO.  I haven't seen the 1929 version and would very much like to.

 

Agree with you about Rita.   Just was fine if the role didn't call for much but when the part called for her to display a lot of emotion she often looked forced.    

 

I made an error when I said 1929.   I meant the 1932 Crawford/Huston version.    



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Posted 06 September 2014 - 06:20 PM

I agree that this is a great movie and that the acting by Huston and Crawford was terrific.   Have you seen the Rita Hayworth version?  (I only ask this since you say you can't imagine anyone else in their roles).

 

That is a good remake but not as good as the 1929 one.

I have seen the Rita Hayworth version and don't think it hold's a candle to the Crawford/Huston version.  Rita H. is not a favorite actress of mine.  Gorgeous actress but not in Crawford's acting/screen persona league IMO.  I haven't seen the 1929 version and would very much like to.



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Posted 06 September 2014 - 04:18 PM

A truly excellent film.  Not just "good" but great.  Huston and Crawford are terrific.  I can't imagine anybody else in their roles.  Probably my favorite Crawford film.

 

I agree that this is a great movie and that the acting by Huston and Crawford was terrific.   Have you seen the Rita Hayworth version?  (I only ask this since you say you can't imagine anyone else in their roles).

 

That is a good remake but not as good as the 1932 one.



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Posted 06 September 2014 - 04:10 PM

A truly excellent film.  Not just "good" but great.  Huston and Crawford are terrific.  I can't imagine anybody else in their roles.  Probably my favorite Crawford film.


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 12:17 PM

I have yet to see this film, but just putting it out there, is it good? I saw a clip of Joan Crawford standing up to Walter Huston and really was taken by the performances. 


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