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#1 mr6666

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Posted Yesterday, 05:03 PM

"In recent months, public support for Medicare for All has surged, leading some commentators to argue that it is the "inevitable" successor to the prevailing for-profit healthcare model.

 

Progressive groups leading the resistance against Trumpcare have repeatedly emphasized that it is not enough to defend Obamacare. An ambitious alternative, activists have argued, must be the end goal, given the deep flaws within the current healthcare system that make it one of the worst-performing in the industrialized world.

As Sandro Galea, dean of the Boston University School of Public Health, argues in an analysis for the Harvard Business Review, "there is no reason to think that the status quo is immutable." ...

 

...the Democratic Party is a strong midterm wave and a little inter-party soul-searching away from a chance at finally fulfilling the left's greatest healthcare dream, and unlike the GOP's healthcare dream, it would actually help millions rather than hurt them," concludes Bustle's Chris Tognotti. "While it might not be easy, or entirely without risk, it's at the very least an issue worth fighting for."

 

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Posted Yesterday, 04:13 PM

Is the U.S. Ready for a Single-Payer Health Care System?

 

"...While there may be openings for bipartisan compromise to address the weaknesses of the ACA,  the core of the ACA framework is unstable — a hostage to the market and political fortune. By contrast, a single-payer model stands to be much more durable and provides a chance to build a health care system around the well-being of patients rather than the profits of providers and insurers.....

 

 

If implemented correctly, a centralized payment structure can create a health care system that is genuinely organized around health. It may seem counterintuitive to suggest that the U.S. system is not organized around health, but this truth has long been obvious to anyone who follows this issue or to anyone who has ever had to seek care in a time of need. Over and over, we have seen how the U.S. health care system produces a vast array of increasingly expensive drugs and treatments that few can access without high-quality insurance.

 

A single-payer model could change this — not by nationalizing health care outright but by incentivizing new payment structures such as bundled payments, accountable care organizations, and other population-based models.....

 

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Posted Yesterday, 03:39 PM

Senator Dick DurbinVerified account @SenatorDurbin 7h7 hours ago

 
 

.@SenateGOP, here’s a step-by-step on how to strengthen health care for all Americans. You should really take a look.

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& Lowering/controlling COSTS of premiums, deductables, drugs and medical treatment!!

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 03:52 PM

Medicare For All Is Coming, No Matter What They Say-

 

"More than half of all Americans, 53 percent, now want a single-payer plan, up from 40 percent in 1998-2000.

 

The best way to defend the ACA is the way Bernie Sanders is doing it. Sanders is barnstorming the country condemning Republican plans to gut the law, a move that would cause tens of thousands of needless deaths to give millionaires and billionaires a tax cut.

But he is also making it clear that the ultimate goal — the goal that reflects both the public’s needs and our shared progressive values — is Medicare for all...

 

 

My pessimistic side coming out, but I can see problems with the Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, et. al. approach.  Telling the people that Medicare for all is coming is the quickest way to enable passage of the Republican health care act.  53% in some survey may say they want single payer, but they really don't when it comes down to how to pay for it and what it entails.

Remember, all the surveys said Pres. Clinton was going to be deciding this issue and many indicated she would have a Democratic Senate and possibly House to help her.

Far too many people are scared of that and all it entails, even though that fear is not justified.  Not to mention govenors and senators.

The governors would be happy with Medicare for all IF is replaces Medicaid.  However, even Democrats in Congress have not tried that manuver.

The elephant in the room is the tremendous cost of Medicare, Medicaid and all other government funded health care.  And it is going up.

We absolutely need for there to be a commission to study health care and health care funding in America.  Two very different propostitions.  The commission should be made up of representatives of all stakeholders.



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Posted 17 July 2017 - 03:45 PM

Medicare For All Is Coming, No Matter What They Say-

 

"More than half of all Americans, 53 percent, now want a single-payer plan, up from 40 percent in 1998-2000.

But at the same time, Medicare for all suffers from the rise of a new growth industry: telling Americans what can’t be done to make their lives better..

 

Much of that opposition adopts the world-weary pose of the seasoned professional who has abandoned the idealism of his youth and is regrettably forced pass his disillusionment on to those who are more naïve.......

 

 

Bernie Sanders’ presidential candidacy injected the single-payer idea into the political discourse. That created an opening for Democrats to embrace the idea as they seek to oppose Republican efforts to dismantle Obamacare....

 

“President Obama tried to move us forward with health care coverage by using a conservative model that came from one of the conservative think tanks that had been advanced by a Republican governor in Massachusetts,” Warren recently said. “Now it’s time for the next step. And the next step is single-payer.”

 

...A single-payer health system could set rates and design treatment guidelines that are based on best practices and are subject to public debate, unlike private plans...

 

 

The best way to defend the ACA is the way Bernie Sanders is doing it. Sanders is barnstorming the country condemning Republican plans to gut the law, a move that would cause tens of thousands of needless deaths to give millionaires and billionaires a tax cut.

But he is also making it clear that the ultimate goal — the goal that reflects both the public’s needs and our shared progressive values — is Medicare for all...

 

llmoyers.com/story/medicare-for-all-coming-no-matter-what-they-say/

 



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Posted 17 July 2017 - 03:40 PM

Medicare For All Is Coming, No Matter What They Say-

 

"More than half of all Americans, 53 percent, now want a single-payer plan, up from 40 percent in 1998-2000.

But at the same time, Medicare for all suffers from the rise of a new growth industry: telling Americans what can’t be done to make their lives better..

 

Much of that opposition adopts the world-weary pose of the seasoned professional who has abandoned the idealism of his youth and is regrettably forced pass his disillusionment on to those who are more naïve.......

 

 

Bernie Sanders’ presidential candidacy injected the single-payer idea into the political discourse. That created an opening for Democrats to embrace the idea as they seek to oppose Republican efforts to dismantle Obamacare....

 

“President Obama tried to move us forward with health care coverage by using a conservative model that came from one of the conservative think tanks that had been advanced by a Republican governor in Massachusetts,” Warren recently said. “Now it’s time for the next step. And the next step is single-payer.”

 

...A single-payer health system could set rates and design treatment guidelines that are based on best practices and are subject to public debate, unlike private plans...

 

 

The best way to defend the ACA is the way Bernie Sanders is doing it. Sanders is barnstorming the country condemning Republican plans to gut the law, a move that would cause tens of thousands of needless deaths to give millionaires and billionaires a tax cut.

But he is also making it clear that the ultimate goal — the goal that reflects both the public’s needs and our shared progressive values — is Medicare for all...

 

llmoyers.com/story/medicare-for-all-coming-no-matter-what-they-say/

 

 

Good old Bill Moyers.  Always spot on.  But what hope is there when just about everyone in Washington is beholden to lobbyists who wish to keep the money flowing to insurance and drug companies.  Even democrats are on the take here.


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Posted 17 July 2017 - 03:35 PM

"The U.S. has the highest rate of maternal mortality in the developed world...(60 percent are preventable)

Yet these deaths of women from causes related to pregnancy or childbirth are almost invisible. ...

 

The inability, or unwillingness, of states and the federal government to track maternal deaths has been called “an international embarrassment.”....

 

...these women form a picture of maternal mortality that is more racially, economically, geographically and medically diverse than many people might expect.

Their ages ranged from 16 to 43; their causes of death, from hemorrhage to infection, complications of pre-existing medical conditions, and suicide. We were struck by how many perished in the postpartum period, by the number of heart-related deaths, by the contributing role sometimes played by severe depression and mood disorders — and by the many missed opportunities to save lives....

 

The health care system focuses on babies but often ignores their mothers....

 

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Posted 15 July 2017 - 03:35 PM

Medicare For All Is Coming, No Matter What They Say-

 

"More than half of all Americans, 53 percent, now want a single-payer plan, up from 40 percent in 1998-2000.

But at the same time, Medicare for all suffers from the rise of a new growth industry: telling Americans what can’t be done to make their lives better..

 

Much of that opposition adopts the world-weary pose of the seasoned professional who has abandoned the idealism of his youth and is regrettably forced pass his disillusionment on to those who are more naïve.......

 

 

Bernie Sanders’ presidential candidacy injected the single-payer idea into the political discourse. That created an opening for Democrats to embrace the idea as they seek to oppose Republican efforts to dismantle Obamacare....

 

“President Obama tried to move us forward with health care coverage by using a conservative model that came from one of the conservative think tanks that had been advanced by a Republican governor in Massachusetts,” Warren recently said. “Now it’s time for the next step. And the next step is single-payer.”

 

...A single-payer health system could set rates and design treatment guidelines that are based on best practices and are subject to public debate, unlike private plans...

 

 

The best way to defend the ACA is the way Bernie Sanders is doing it. Sanders is barnstorming the country condemning Republican plans to gut the law, a move that would cause tens of thousands of needless deaths to give millionaires and billionaires a tax cut.

But he is also making it clear that the ultimate goal — the goal that reflects both the public’s needs and our shared progressive values — is Medicare for all...

 

llmoyers.com/story/medicare-for-all-coming-no-matter-what-they-say/


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Posted 03 July 2017 - 04:31 PM

Thanks for the picture (sort of)  Somehow it looked less friendly in the VA building.  Maybe it was the light.

 

Yeah, he looks a bit "scowl-ier" in the full picture, but I couldn't find one to post, just that close up of the top half.


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Posted 03 July 2017 - 04:29 PM

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Thanks for the picture (sort of)  Somehow it looked less friendly in the VA building.  Maybe it was the light.


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Posted 03 July 2017 - 04:21 PM

Went to the VA today and had to face this as I walked down hallway.  Meanest scowl of any president in history? 

Site will not let me post Trump's official portrait that hangs in all government buildings.

 

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Posted 03 July 2017 - 03:53 PM

Went to the VA today and had to face this as I walked down hallway.  Meanest scowl of any president in history? 

Site will not let me post Trump's official portrait that hangs in all government buildings.


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Posted 03 July 2017 - 02:11 PM

You'll never soon see a single-payer system in this country.  And it isn't because it's a bad idea.  Mostly because to avoid a sharp rise in taxes the medical profession and hospitals would require state or federal oversight to prevent them from price gouging and padding claims with other spurious fees and charges.  And they wouldn't want THAT.  And as it ISN'T either democrats OR republicans that really run things in Washingon, but the THIRD party known as "Lobbyists" who wield the power, single-payer has a difficult uphill battle.

 

BIG PHARM too, would also be against it.

 

 

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Since Workers Comp Insurance is required by almost every employer (or they have to be self-insured) and therefore the vast majority of employees have WC coverage,  all states mandate that employees pay ZERO for all medical services related to a WC injury.

 

To avoid medical providers charging outrages fees to the insurance carrier or employer (when self-insured),  WC has medical fee schedules and treatment protocols that prevent medical providers from over charging \ over billing.    (this includes pharmacy billings and all drugs and supplies)

 

Medicare has something similar;     The same would be done with a single-payer system.    The actual concern is that due to price-fixing there wouldn't be enough people wanting to become medical provider;    Of course this is only speculation and it is very difficult to determine if this would occur or NOT. 



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 07:49 AM

You'll never soon see a single-payer system in this country.  And it isn't because it's a bad idea.  Mostly because to avoid a sharp rise in taxes the medical profession and hospitals would require state or federal oversight to prevent them from price gouging and padding claims with other spurious fees and charges.  And they wouldn't want THAT.  And as it ISN'T either democrats OR republicans that really run things in Washingon, but the THIRD party known as "Lobbyists" who wield the power, single-payer has a difficult uphill battle.

 

BIG PHARM too, would also be against it.

 

 

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You don't see conservative governments in France, Canada or Great Britain trying to roll back their single payer health care systems. Why?  They know that to roll back these entitlements would be political suicide.  Somehow, America needs to totally transform its health care system at some advantageous point to include everyone.  Then it should be impossible to repeal as democrat and republican voters alike will have learned to live with it.

Wasn't Trump promising to get the lobbyists out of American politics?


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Posted 02 July 2017 - 07:40 AM

You'll never soon see a single-payer system in this country.  And it isn't because it's a bad idea.  Mostly because to avoid a sharp rise in taxes the medical profession and hospitals would require state or federal oversight to prevent them from price gouging and padding claims with other spurious fees and charges.  And they wouldn't want THAT.  And as it ISN'T either democrats OR republicans that really run things in Washingon, but the THIRD party known as "Lobbyists" who wield the power, single-payer has a difficult uphill battle.

 

BIG PHARM too, would also be against it.

 

 

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Posted 01 July 2017 - 04:09 PM

"Activists across the country have provided real momentum to the idea of a single-payer health care system, pressing the issue in California and among leading figures in the Democratic Party.

The mere prospect of single payer, however, has elicited swift derision from some corners of the party, with Dick Gephardt, the former Democratic House minority leader, laughing off the idea at a health insurance conference earlier this month.

“Not in my lifetime,” scoffed Gephardt, when asked if the United States will ever adopt such a system.

 

“There is no way you could pass single payer in any intermediate future,” Gephardt declared. America, he added, has the “greatest health care system in the world, bar none.” And while single payer would provide universal coverage, there would be less quality and innovation without the “involvement of the private sector.”...

 

The claim that single payer suppresses innovation is an old argument that does not stand up to scrutiny. Most medical innovation in the U.S. are already government funded,...

Claims about lower quality care are also highly disputed, given that countries with single payer and tightly regulated universal health systems perform much higher than the U.S. in a range of health outcomes....

 

the health insurance industry has deployed sophisticated propaganda efforts to divide single-payer proponents and weaken any political support for the idea. Former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton once considered such a system, but wondered, “Is there any force on the face of the earth that would counter the money the insurance industry would spend to defeat it?”...

 

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Posted 01 July 2017 - 12:30 AM

Nursing Homes Worry Proposed Medicaid Cuts Will Force Cuts, Closures-

 

"...About two-thirds of nursing home residents are paid for by Medicaid. And the Congressional Budget Office found that the Senate health care bill would cut Medicaid by more than $770 billion over the next decade...

 

According to the American Health Care Association (AHCA), a national trade group for nursing homes, the current Senate bill's cuts to Medicaid could mean that a typical nursing home would eventually run deficits of hundreds of thousands of dollars a year....

 

Betty had a career as a bookkeeper.... Now she's spent everything she had. There's no way she could afford the roughly $80,000 a year this nursing home costs. (That fee is pretty standard for nursing homes.) So it's Medicaid that enables her to stay here.

 

"There's nothing I can do about it," she says. "It's gotta be [Medicaid] or [I'm] out on the street. One or the other."

 

http://www.npr.org/s...ontent=20170630


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Posted 01 July 2017 - 12:02 AM

"Dr. Henry Bello, had been fired by the hospital. Other media reports described Bello as a 45-year-old physician who specialized in family medicine.

WNBC television in New York, citing unnamed sources, reported he had resigned from the hospital in 2015 to avoid termination....

 

"Bello was listed as a family physician on the hospital website. However, despite the fact that Bello is listed as a doctor on the hospital website, The New York Post reported that “there are no state records of a Henry Bello with a medical license.”

A Dr. Henry Bello comes up as a “student in an Organized Health Care Education/Training Program” in the National Provider Identifier Database. The New York Times reported that Bello had “received a limited permit to practice as an international medical graduate” to gain experience but the permit expired in 2016. He previously had a pharmacy technician license in California.........

 

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Posted 30 June 2017 - 10:07 PM

Former doctor shoots 6, kills woman then himself inside NYC hospital.

 

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http://www.nbcnewyor...-431820163.html

 

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