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#21 mr6666

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 05:19 PM

 

"Iowa’s Rep. Steve King recently tweeted his support for right-wing Dutch candidate Geert Wilders in tomorrow’s racially charged Dutch elections. “Wilders understands that culture and demographics are our destiny. We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies,” the Republican wrote. In America, we have a term for Wilders and his ideas, John Nichols writes at The Nation: “White Nationalism.”

 

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 05:02 PM

Video: Marine Le Pen Smacks Down Reporter: ‘No One Trusts the Media’

INFO WARS >> https://www.infowars...usts-the-media/

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interesting how  all these folks with Russian backing are using similar phrases/talking points ;)


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#23 Vautrin

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 03:21 PM

Nothing to it. These folks are wingnuts and do and

say what wingnuts do and say. It's pretty elementary.


Curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid get.


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 12:34 PM


I don't think the intelligence reports are all that hot. Some days I get more out of the New York Times. JFK

 

The American people, North and South, went into the war as citizens of their respective states, they came out as subjects. What they thus lost they have never got back.  H.L. Mencken
 
Tis Well. President George Washington
 
Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Sir Winston Churchill 
 
Movies are written in sand: applauded today, forgotten tomorrow. D.W Griffith
 
I would rather wake up in the middle of nowhere than in any city on earth. Steve McQueen
 
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. George Orwell
 
Perfect freedom has no existence. The grown man knows the world he lives in, and for the present, the world is Rome. Ben Hur
 
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. President Ronald Reagan
 
A man's got to know his limitations. Dirty Harry Callahan
 
A man's got to have a code, a creed to live by, no matter his job. The Immortal John Wayne


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 12:19 PM

Video: Marine Le Pen Smacks Down Reporter: ‘No One Trusts the Media’

INFO WARS >> https://www.infowars...usts-the-media/

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I don't think the intelligence reports are all that hot. Some days I get more out of the New York Times. JFK

 

The American people, North and South, went into the war as citizens of their respective states, they came out as subjects. What they thus lost they have never got back.  H.L. Mencken
 
Tis Well. President George Washington
 
Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Sir Winston Churchill 
 
Movies are written in sand: applauded today, forgotten tomorrow. D.W Griffith
 
I would rather wake up in the middle of nowhere than in any city on earth. Steve McQueen
 
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. George Orwell
 
Perfect freedom has no existence. The grown man knows the world he lives in, and for the present, the world is Rome. Ben Hur
 
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. President Ronald Reagan
 
A man's got to know his limitations. Dirty Harry Callahan
 
A man's got to have a code, a creed to live by, no matter his job. The Immortal John Wayne


#26 TomJH

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 07:44 AM

Part of my post also mentioned that the 1933 equivalency to the stuff posted in this thread would have been put out by the Nazi party to aggrandize Adolf Hitler and his nationalistic message which included scapegoating minority cultures.  Perhaps the posters are conveniently ignorant of this equivalency as I doubt that their parents who may have fought against this right wing fascism in WWII would be very pleased.  And one should be very careful what one wishes for here.  History has shown that once a fascist dictatorship is in place it then costs millions of lives to depose it.

 

A few of the Trumpists on these threads are clearly not open to interaction. As Lawrence said, they merely want to make declarative statements, while deliberately trying to rub the noses of anyone differing with them the wrong way. And, for the most part, they never answer any questions that pose genuine concerns about Trump or his methods. They merely ignore them as they post another blaring headine either extolling him as President or burning (usually fake news distortions) his opponents. The underlining bigotry that exists in many of these postings is extremely disturbing. They don't try to hide it anymore, emboldened by Trump's election.

 

These posters go beyond mere partisanship. They are truly fanatics, with whom a reasonable interaction is virtually impossible. They're minds are made up and they are undoubtedly proud of that fact, too. The truth and the fact that they post fake articles is of virtually no concern to them. Just getting their political viewpoint across is all that matters to them.

 

And, yes, the fanaticism of these posters does make me think they would approve any clamp down on civil liberties that might be imposed upon America by Trump (as long as the clamp downs don't impact themselves, of course). In that respect, how different are they from Hitler's most stalwart and saluting of followers, many of them also fiercely hating anyone they perceived as "foreign" or not a member of their racial "club."


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:09 AM

You don't actually think that they're interested in swaying anybody, do you? They just want to cheer on those who already think like they do while annoying or angering those that don't. This is not about winning hearts and minds, or finding common ground, or debating issues in any meaningful way whatsoever. It's cheerleading themselves and/or insulting/mocking everyone else. 

 

Part of my post also mentioned that the 1933 equivalency to the stuff posted in this thread would have been put out by the Nazi party to aggrandize Adolf Hitler and his nationalistic message which included scapegoating minority cultures.  Perhaps the posters are conveniently ignorant of this equivalency as I doubt that their parents who may have fought against this right wing fascism in WWII would be very pleased.  And one should be very careful what one wishes for here.  History has shown that once a fascist dictatorship is in place it then costs millions of lives to depose it.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 08:55 PM

I know that I've read multiple posts from Bogie, Tom, PoT, and DGF asking questions (in a civil polite manner) only to receive either no response or something along the lines of "Libtards have mental disorders" or "godless progressives hate the real America" or, my personal favorite, "go home to your mommy and cry little baby".

 

 

Hilarious. As a recipient of that witty response, I can honestly say it took me back to the days went I heard comments of that nature in a primary school school yard.



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 07:57 PM

 

I now:  look at who provided the last reply,  if it isn't MR666 (since it will just be a link or some other uninteresting crap)  or that conservative tool,   I read it.  Once I'm done going to those threads I hit 'mark all threads as read'.

 

I can't agree about Mr. 6's posts, as he often links interesting articles from a variety of sources. I don't read them all, but I read more of them than from most other posters who frequently post links.

 

I, too, avoid some threads, like any that just post videos over and over again with little to no commentary. It would be nice if there was just a single thread dedicated to posting videos, especially since the majority of them come from the same YouTube content provider.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 07:52 PM

I know that I've read multiple posts from Bogie, Tom, PoT, and DGF asking questions (in a civil polite manner) only to receive either no response or something along the lines of "Libtards have mental disorders" or "godless progressives hate the real America" or, my personal favorite, "go home to your mommy and cry little baby".

 

After a certain number of such responses, perhaps you'll understand why people begin returning in kind. I know from personal experience on here how this goes, since I often tried reaching out to people with whom I disagreed and the responses I got ranged from being told to never "Like" their posts again, to actual threats of physical violence, to one poster PM'ing others to tell them to put me ignore because I was "a creep" for disagreeing with them politically.

 

It baffled me for a while why these specific posters continued to post here, since they never seemed to have anything positive to say or made no attempts at conversations, only posting declarative statements and then leaving, and rarely if ever even talking about movies. But I've come to understand that there's a certain type of individual that apparently can't communicate in any other way.

 

Yes,  one conservative around is a complete and total tool.    No question about that.    Others like Nip do try to have an actual discussion but are often so misinformed (often intentionally) that it makes having a discussion difficult.

 

As for why they post 'here',   it appears you mean the overall forum,  but as it relates to this specific thread;  they created it and I assume they feel doing so is getting out the message they want to get out.  AND you have to admit that is working,   I.e. "libtards" come to this thread,  read the post and often reply.

 

So what I wonder more about is why do these 'libtards' do that?     Why take the tools' bait?    Resist the temptation to have to read everything posted around here.     Hey,  I don't always do this either but in the last 3 - 4 weeks I have changed how I use view threads in Chit-chat forum. 

 

I now:  look at who provided the last reply,  if it isn't MR666 (since it will just be a link or some other uninteresting crap)  or that conservative tool,   I read it.  Once I'm done going to those threads I hit 'mark all threads as read'.



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 07:19 PM

While I see you're point to you really thing the Trump-haters around here are interested in finding common ground?

 

To me many of the posts from these folks fall into;   'It's cheerleading themselves and/or insulting/mocking everyone else'.

 

E.g. 99% of MR666 post. 

 

I know that I've read multiple posts from Bogie, Tom, PoT, and DGF asking questions (in a civil polite manner) only to receive either no response or something along the lines of "Libtards have mental disorders" or "godless progressives hate the real America" or, my personal favorite, "go home to your mommy and cry little baby".

 

I know from personal experience on here how this goes, since I often tried reaching out to people with whom I disagreed and the responses I got ranged from being told to never "Like" their posts again, to actual threats of physical violence, to one poster PM'ing others to tell them to put me ignore because I was "a creep" for disagreeing with them politically.

 

It baffled me for a while why these specific posters continued to post here, since they never seemed to have anything positive to say or made no attempts at conversations, only posting declarative statements and then leaving, and rarely if ever even talking about movies. But I've come to understand that there's a certain type of individual that apparently can't communicate in any other way.



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:04 PM

You don't actually think that they're interested in swaying anybody, do you? They just want to cheer on those who already think like they do while annoying or angering those that don't. This is not about winning hearts and minds, or finding common ground, or debating issues in any meaningful way whatsoever.

 

While I see you're point to you really thing the Trump-haters around here are interested in finding common ground?

 

To me many of the posts from these folks fall into;   'It's cheerleading themselves and/or insulting/mocking everyone else'.

 

E.g. 99% of MR666 post. 



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:52 PM

Who are they serving by posting all of this hate messaging?  Do they really think anyone will be swayed by their bigotry?

 

You don't actually think that they're interested in swaying anybody, do you? They just want to cheer on those who already think like they do while annoying or angering those that don't. This is not about winning hearts and minds, or finding common ground, or debating issues in any meaningful way whatsoever. It's cheerleading themselves and/or insulting/mocking everyone else. 


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:44 PM

Le Pen's National Front has Decades of History of Hatred of Jews, Hatred of Muslims, Hatred of blacks--there's no other way to put it.

Le Front National is simply a party of hate originally founded by Le Pen to compensate for France's losing the colony of Algeria-- a political party birthed in retro- racist colonialism.
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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:38 PM

 

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France : This is your last chance to save your nation vote Marine Le Pen Make France Great Again #Marine2017 #MFGA #MAGA #Trump

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I take it if this was 1933 the people posting this right wing propaganda would be supporting Adolf Hitler.  Shame on them.

Who are they serving by posting all of this hate messaging?  Do they really think anyone will be swayed by their bigotry?



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 02:37 PM

French farmers hope Marine Le Pen will free them from EU 'straitjacket'

http://www.telegraph...u-straitjacket/

Bet she has the temperament of her father! :o

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He sort of reminds me of...

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German Anti-Trump Parade Floats Are SAVAGE (IMAGES)

"On Monday was the annual Rosenmontag — Rose Monday — parade in Germany, effectively marking the end of the annual Carnival (die fünfte Jahreszeit) celebration. The parades across the nation getting quite a bit of attention for the numerous, numerous parade floats featuring a certain bright orange alleged President, and with good reason — they are savage....

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Marine Le Pen



There's no other way to describe Anti-Semitism.

France took part in the Holocaust during World War II-- hopefully that will not happen again.

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 02:31 PM

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Anti-Semitism doesn't liberate anybody.

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 02:29 PM


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Voice of Europe‏ @V_of_Europe Mar 11

Hundreds of Islamists shouting "Allahu Akbar" in Rotterdam, the Netherlands. Wilders is right for over 10 years. #turkijerelpic.twitter.com/dV2SjXg23r




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Posted 13 March 2017 - 02:08 PM

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Voice of Europe @V_of_Europe Mar 11

Hundreds of Islamists shouting "Allahu Akbar" in Rotterdam, the Netherlands. Wilders is right for over 10 years. #turkijerelpic.twitter.com/dV2SjXg23r

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I don't think the intelligence reports are all that hot. Some days I get more out of the New York Times. JFK

 

The American people, North and South, went into the war as citizens of their respective states, they came out as subjects. What they thus lost they have never got back.  H.L. Mencken
 
Tis Well. President George Washington
 
Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Sir Winston Churchill 
 
Movies are written in sand: applauded today, forgotten tomorrow. D.W Griffith
 
I would rather wake up in the middle of nowhere than in any city on earth. Steve McQueen
 
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. George Orwell
 
Perfect freedom has no existence. The grown man knows the world he lives in, and for the present, the world is Rome. Ben Hur
 
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. President Ronald Reagan
 
A man's got to know his limitations. Dirty Harry Callahan
 
A man's got to have a code, a creed to live by, no matter his job. The Immortal John Wayne


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 01:48 PM

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France : This is your last chance to save your nation vote Marine Le Pen Make France Great Again #Marine2017 #MFGA #MAGA #Trump

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I don't think the intelligence reports are all that hot. Some days I get more out of the New York Times. JFK

 

The American people, North and South, went into the war as citizens of their respective states, they came out as subjects. What they thus lost they have never got back.  H.L. Mencken
 
Tis Well. President George Washington
 
Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Sir Winston Churchill 
 
Movies are written in sand: applauded today, forgotten tomorrow. D.W Griffith
 
I would rather wake up in the middle of nowhere than in any city on earth. Steve McQueen
 
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. George Orwell
 
Perfect freedom has no existence. The grown man knows the world he lives in, and for the present, the world is Rome. Ben Hur
 
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. President Ronald Reagan
 
A man's got to know his limitations. Dirty Harry Callahan
 
A man's got to have a code, a creed to live by, no matter his job. The Immortal John Wayne





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