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#281 mrroberts

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 01:43 PM

My sincere hopes and prayers to my friends up north (and I have family up there as well).  I have to believe that most Canadians  will come to their senses and reject  this "conservative" and others of his kind. (Note I put conservative in quotes because  like in the U. S. , these people are not "conservatives" in the usual sense). 


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#282 TomJH

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 04:22 AM

Harper is an extraordinarily intelligent man.

 

Which makes him all the more frightening because he is also so relentless and so cold.



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Posted 19 October 2015 - 04:09 AM

You know he started wearing glasses to disguise himself as human, ay Tom?

 

People kept noting he had "dead eyes" before he started wearing them just before the last election. The eyes are the window to the soul, I've heard.


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 03:57 AM

It's Monday, October 19, 2015, and it's election day in Canada.

 

QUESTION:

 

Will the most Machiavellian Prime Minister in our country's history find some way to pull out yet another victory . . .

 

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or will the Canadian voter finally put an electoral stake through this political vampire's heart?

 

 

 

 

Errrr, is my partisanship showing? That's okay, Harper's divide and conquer leadership style has been showing since the day he was first elected.



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Posted 17 October 2015 - 01:01 PM

Our scientists will certainly be celebrating if he loses. As will Statistics Canada. As will reporters and other investigators who seek information and historical data.


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Posted 17 October 2015 - 11:02 AM

If the Liberals win Monday's election it will be an historic win in a number of respects.

 

Above all, it will put an end to the narrow visioned, mean spirited, bullying decade long reign of a Prime Minister who has been incrementally changing Canada, trying to keep Canadians in the dark about the changes as much as possible. It will take time to undo much of his negative changes, unfortunately. The financial cuts that he has made on our national health care system will have to be addressed. Not to mention a change to Canada's electoral system so that it is no longer first past the post, and a party does not win that only receives one third of the vote.

 

Secondly, it will be the first time that the son of a former Prime Minster became Prime Minister himself.

 

Third, it will be the first time in modern Canadian history (perhaps all our history) in which the party running in third place at the beginning of the campaign came from behind to win. There is already plenty of analysis taking place now as to why that may be the case.

 

Harper's gutterball campaign tactics, resorting to an appeal to racists within our country, as well as deliberately lying about what will happen if there is a Liberal win (trying to scare seniors by telling them they will lose pension income splitting, for example, as well as immigrant group circulars saying that brothels will become legal), has made him fully deserving of a defeat which, if the polls are accurate, is only two days away.



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Posted 15 October 2015 - 07:28 PM

Stephen Harper's desperation is showing on the campaign trail.

 

The last couple of days he has indulged in some cheesy antics presenting himself as some kind of game show emcee. He will have a Conservative supporter drop money, one bill at a time, down on a table, it adding up, and supposedly representing the kind of money that Canadian voters will lose if they elect a Liberal government.

 

He has also appeared at a campaign rally with both Rob Ford, and his brother Doug, giving him endorsements. Rob Ford may be America's favourite Canadian politician but he is a highly divisive figure. After all, Harper represents himself as a law and order candidate and he is receiving an endorsement from an admitted crack user in Ford. No contradiction there?

 

The Ford brothers will also be present at a campaign rally Saturday for Harper. Trudeau has attacked Harper for having the Ford brothers on a federal campaign trail, saying he should be embarrassed to have them there.

 

Excerpts are now coming out in the media on a new book about Rob Ford, with more embarrassments about his dysfunctional home life in which he, apparently, among other things, threatened to put three bullets in his wife's head. Difficult to see how Harper gains by emphasizing this association.

 

A CBC reporter, Robert Fife, also now reports that he overheard Harper previously refer to the Ford brothers as a "pair of losers."

 

Of note, the bombastic Doug Ford has speculated in the past on running as Conservative party leader if Harper retires.

 

Trudeau is also on the hot seat, though, over a campaign co-chairman, now just resigned, who had offered email advice to an oil company on how to lobby a potential Liberal government. This is the first major blunder of the Liberal campaign but its timing is bad, coming just days before the election.



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Posted 14 October 2015 - 08:54 PM

Conservatives' dirty tricks (robo-calls, lying to voters about where to vote etc.) were found out after the last election so they had to come up with something new to try to keep non-Conservatives from the process this time - the result being the 'Fair Elections Act' - a page taken from Republican playbooks that look for ways to prevent non-Conservatives from voting by adding more rules of identification.

 

Predictable results happening now:

 

https://ca.news.yaho...-232257647.html


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Posted 14 October 2015 - 05:00 PM

I just started reading the October issue of Harper's (no

relation of course), and there is a very critical but

humorous article about Stephen Harper. The title of

the piece is The Nixon of the North. Ouch.


Curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid get.


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Posted 14 October 2015 - 04:19 PM

With the Liberals continuing to do well in three more polls released today (6 to 7 percent ahead of the Conservatives in all of them), for the first time I heard some media speculation on the long shot possibility of the party winning by majority government.

 

Harper appears to be in considerable trouble now, but you can't count him out.

 

Not surprisingly, the political attack ads on Trudeau are relentless these days.



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Posted 13 October 2015 - 02:32 PM

Elections Canada says that 2.4 million Canadians cast their votes in the first three days of advanced polls, a 16% increase over the advanced polling period in the last election.

 

When I voted last Friday (thought I'd be in and out within ten minutes when I went), I was surprised by the lineups. It took about 45 minutes before I could finally cast my vote. But it was worth it.

 

I overheard the people standing in front of me saying, "We gotta get rid of Harper." No kidding. I really did!

 

With the apparent greater interest being shown by Canadians in the results of this election, can these be signs of the winds of change?


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Posted 13 October 2015 - 01:11 PM

You'd be a welcome addition to Team Harper with a dismissive slur like that, Jake. They'd like your style.

 

Among his other accomplishments as Prime Minister, Pierre Trudeau passed into law in 1984 the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, a bedrock of the Canadian constitution. It enhances the protections of Canadians, designed by Trudeau to protect them against laws passed by future governments that could threaten their existing rights and freedoms.

 

Laws passed can be challenged in court based on the Charter of Rights, and many have been shot down as a result of it. Harper, probably the most controlling PM that Canada has ever had, hates the Charter of Rights because he wants his laws passed (rammed through for the last four years by his majority government) to be the final say. Harper intensely dislikes both Trudeaus and anything Liberal, a political party he would love to destroy. With Harper, politics is strictly a blood sport.

 

First order of business -undo what Harper has done. Get back to being Canada again instead of just some Republican farm team with no direction ahead but down.

 

When I think of what an awesome position we were in after the long and fiscally expert Liberal administrations under Chretien-Martin, and the deficit-ridden fascist state that Harper has going today, I can do nothing but weep for what should have been if only the Liberals had known how to pick a leader ten years back.


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Posted 13 October 2015 - 12:55 PM

TomJH:

The Constitution Act, Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms was enacted in 1982 (not 1984).

 

Thanks for the correction, Violet.



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Posted 13 October 2015 - 12:38 PM

TomJH:

The Constitution Act, Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms was enacted in 1982 (not 1984).

Harper has certainly tried to chip away at the Charter since his time in power. Good thing that P.E. Trudeau had legal scholars who ensured that the Charter's values and substance would survive beyond...
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Posted 12 October 2015 - 11:14 PM

Let's hope Canada can do better than a scion of a playboy. Harper and the conservatives still strong.

http://www.electiona....com/ea/canada/

You'd be a welcome addition to Team Harper with a dismissive slur like that, Jake. They'd like your style.

 

Among his other accomplishments as Prime Minister, Pierre Trudeau passed into law in 1984 the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, a bedrock of the Canadian constitution. It enhances the protections of Canadians, designed by Trudeau to protect them against laws passed by future governments that could threaten their existing rights and freedoms.

 

Laws passed can be challenged in court based on the Charter of Rights, and many have been shot down as a result of it. Harper, probably the most controlling PM that Canada has ever had, hates the Charter of Rights because he wants his laws passed (rammed through for the last four years by his majority government) to be the final say. Harper intensely dislikes both Trudeaus and anything Liberal, a political party he would love to destroy. With Harper, politics is strictly a blood sport.



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Posted 12 October 2015 - 09:49 PM

Let's hope Canada can do better than a scion of a playboy. Harper and the conservatives still strong.

http://www.electiona....com/ea/canada/

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 05:32 PM

The Conservatives currently have a television advertisement playing this week which, of course, extolls their virtues as a political party. At one point in it, though, a smiling Stephan Harper (a divisive figure in Canada) says that the other parties would rather talk about him than the economy.

 

I marvel at this man's spectacular hypocrisy. His party has spent untold millions on personal attack ads on Liberal leader Justin Trudeau for the last two years!

 

 


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Posted 12 October 2015 - 10:16 AM

A Nanos Research Poll, conducted October 9 to 11, on voter intentions for the October 19th Canadian election had the following results:

 

Liberals 35.7%

Conservatives 28.9%

NDP 24.3%

 

Mind you, the polls have been all over the map, but, they do agree that it now appears to be a two party race (after being a tight three party one for most of the campaign). Soft NDP support seems to be going to the Liberals, who appear to be surging.

 

Yesterday Harper was campaigning in three Ontario ridings that were already held by his candidates. This appears to be a clear case of trying to shore up his old ridings for fear of losing them, rather than concentrating on taking ridings from his opponents.

 

It will be a hectic final week, with a large target on the back of Justin Trudeau of the Liberals. The Liberals started this campaign in third place but Trudeau has proven to be a good campaigner, far exceeding the expectations of most commentators and his two party opponents. He was particularly impressive in the five leaders debates held. Most commentators say that all three party leaders held their own in the first four debates, while Trudeau was declared the winner of the final debate by a number of observers.

 

I'm holding my breath that there will be no lowball politics by the Harper right wing in the final days of this campaign, with some kind of personal smear on Trudeau.

 

For those who regard this as a cynical observation, I would like to point out that during the last election, held in 2011, the NDP, under leader Jack Layton, had an unexpected surge of support as the campaign wound down, enough to jettison them to become official Opposition for the first time in their party's history. Every other time they have always come in third place.

 

With only three or four days to go before the vote, however, a Sun Media outlet (a known Conservative supporter and the closest that Canada has to Fox News) released a report that Layton had visited a Toronto massage parlour 15 years before when he was a city councillor. It was reported that he had been found in a "bawdy house" by that outlet.

 

Layton's personal numbers actually jumped after that report, voters perceiving that the report (and, particularly, its timing) was an obvious political smear. Nevertheless, that is the way that the right wing has been capable of operating since Harper came to power. Hopefully they won't resort to the same kind of gutter tactics against Trudeau this week.


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Posted 09 October 2015 - 01:48 PM

They brought Republican advisers up from the U.S. to teach them how to make negative attacks work.

Not just Republican.

 

In September the Conservatives, with their campaign appearing to be floundering, brought aboard Lynton Crosby, described as an Australian campaign fixer. He was behind four consecutive victories of Australian PM John Howard, as well as David Cameron in the U.K. last May.

 

Crosby has been called "a master of the dark political arts."

 

From the National Post regarding Crosby:

 

The term “dog-whistle politics” is said to have originated in Australia in response to the tactics used by the Crosby-led Howard campaign team. The term refers to the use of code words that seem benign to the general populace but which are intended to send veiled messages — typically racist or otherwise distasteful messages — to target voters.

 

Lynton Crosby has also been linked to tactics that have rallied voters fearful of immigration and crime behind the campaigns he advises.

 

It is since Crosby came aboard the Conservative ship that Harper has targeted Muslim women and their veils and, with that, his poll numbers have increased.



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Posted 09 October 2015 - 12:18 PM

The Conservatives under Harper have specialized in attack ads ever since he came to power in 2006. He is always in partisan campaign mode even between elections. For two years now they have spent a fortune on TV and radio ads portraying Justin Trudeau of the Liberals as a callow youth not ready for leadership. (TWO YEARS!). Those ads have continued throughout the campaign on both television and radio.

 

They brought Republican advisers up from the U.S. to teach them how to make negative attacks work. Canada was far more civilized in its political advertising before Harper took over the Reform Party and amalgamated it with what was left of the PC's.

 

Money is no object to winning with the right-wing, and there's no such thing as dishonorable conduct for them. Anything goes - and I mean anything, no matter how sneaky, dirty or dishonest.


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