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Classic Films with a Gay Twist


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#41 jaragon

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 10:13 AM

Yes! :)

 

What about Tyrone Power and Cesar Romero? Would they have made a hot movie couple? It's common knowledge now they were a real life couple.

Ty and Caesar took an around the world flight who knows what they were up to...?  I wish Romero had written an honest biography but he was too old school to reveal all.  Love the suggestion of the final line herehttps://youtu.be/1IQceNsGziU

Is he suggesting that he will go gay for pay with Payne for right price?  ;)


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Posted 01 April 2017 - 10:05 AM

Payne and Romero would have made a hot movie couple

Yes! :)

 

What about Tyrone Power and Cesar Romero? Would they have made a hot movie couple? It's common knowledge now they were a real life couple.


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Posted 01 April 2017 - 09:59 AM

Week-End in Havana (1941)

 

John Spencer (Franchot Tone) is accompanied by Jay Williams (John Payne) on his vacation to Havana. John eventually falls in love with Monte Blanca (Cesar Romero), but Monte has to keep his jealous boyfriend (Tyrone Power, Romero's real life boyfriend) away.

Payne and Romero would have made a hot movie couple


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Posted 01 April 2017 - 09:11 AM

Week-End in Havana (1941)

 

John Spencer (Franchot Tone) is accompanied by Jay Williams (John Payne) on his vacation to Havana. John eventually falls in love with Monte Blanca (Cesar Romero), but Monte has to keep his jealous boyfriend (Tyrone Power, Romero's real life boyfriend) away.


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Posted 12 March 2017 - 11:03 AM

"The Bridges of Madison County"(1995) a photographer (Clint Eastwood) has a brief encounter with a closeted gay farmer ( Dennis Quaid)


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Posted 12 March 2017 - 09:06 AM

One Last Fling (1949)

 

A jealous wife (Alexis Smith) decides working for her wife (Laraine Day) at her music store is the best way to check up on her.


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Posted 12 March 2017 - 09:02 AM

Manhattan (1979)

 

A divorced comedy writer (Sally Field) is in a complicated relationship with a teenage girl (Mariel Hemingway) while she is falling for her best friend's mistress (Diane Keaton).


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Posted 25 February 2017 - 12:01 PM

I dunno... they got so much togetherness with the bros each winter. Maybe ANY woman was such an "exotic" entity that they could only fantasize about for too many months each year. That is why they were so eager to steal them. Also you could tell that all of the bro-bonding was getting on the nerves of Howard Keel/Adam and Russ Tamblyn/Gideon especially.

 

Now Snow White had an interesting situation. The seven dwarfs had to survive without any women and at least one, Grumpy, was more than happy not to have any around. Didn't trust 'em because of their evil wiles. Then again, he did soon "fall" for Snow White and she baked him a pie. Had the prince not kidnapped her and dragged her onto his horse, I think Grumpy would have fought the others to have full access.

 

One curio: the seven brothers and seven dwarfs required a woman to get them to wash up. In A Room With A View, the guys just stay naturally clean with all of their bro-bonding.

"Seven Brides For Seven Brothers" is perfect slash fiction material- in both "Snow White" and "SBFSB" the woman acts as the civilizing element.   Who knows what the seven bros were up to when there were no women around?  I'll leave that up to your naughty imagination ;)


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Posted 24 February 2017 - 08:08 PM

Don't you guys think that at least one of those seven brothers would have preferred a groom to a bride?

 

I dunno... they got so much togetherness with the bros each winter. Maybe ANY woman was such an "exotic" entity that they could only fantasize about for too many months each year. That is why they were so eager to steal them. Also you could tell that all of the bro-bonding was getting on the nerves of Howard Keel/Adam and Russ Tamblyn/Gideon especially.

 

Now Snow White had an interesting situation. The seven dwarfs had to survive without any women and at least one, Grumpy, was more than happy not to have any around. Didn't trust 'em because of their evil wiles. Then again, he did soon "fall" for Snow White and she baked him a pie. Had the prince not kidnapped her and dragged her onto his horse, I think Grumpy would have fought the others to have full access.

 

One curio: the seven brothers and seven dwarfs required a woman to get them to wash up. In A Room With A View, the guys just stay naturally clean with all of their bro-bonding.


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Posted 24 February 2017 - 06:38 PM

Don't you guys think that at least one of those seven brothers would have preferred a groom to a bride?


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Posted 24 February 2017 - 06:37 PM

Watching "A Room With A View" again, I realized for the first time, I think, that Cecil Vyse, the character who is played by Daniel Day-Lewis, is a deeply closeted gay man.

 

George Emerson, who is played by Julian Sands, declares, "He wouldn't know what to do with a woman".

 

Daniel Day-Lewis seems aware, too, of the character's true sexual identity.

 

As for Freddy Honeychurch, who is played by Rupert Graves, does he have a crush on George Emerson?

 

Yes, I think so - he gets George out of his clothes and into that swimming hole.

 

"How d'ye do?  Come and have a bathe."

 

As for Mr. Beebee, who is played by Simon Callow, he is unmistakably gay. 

 

The film has an undeniable gay subtext.

 

What do you expect from EM Foster novel- and yes Rupert Graves is very cute


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Posted 24 February 2017 - 04:45 PM

Echoes of Hot Lips getting exposed in M*A*S*H. You must be watching that movie in hi def on a huge TV screen and freeze framing images to be sure.


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Posted 24 February 2017 - 04:29 PM

Even today, the full-frontal male nudity of George Emerson, Freddy Honeychurch and Mr. Beebee is rather shocking for a high-class A production.

 

Including the irrefutable evidence that Julian Sands is not a natural blonde.

 

 

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 01:46 PM

I think Freddy just likes to be naked as much as possible. He is a playful nymph whose orientation can't be clearly defined. He previously frolicked in the ol' swimmin' 'ole with sister Lucy. When she discusses this with Cecil and he shows zero interest, it is the first sign that he isn't much fun to be around. Considering how few movies of the 1980s had full frontal male nudity compared to the '70s and '90s (which were more gay friendly decades and more tolerant of all nudity in general), I think of A Room With A View as one of the least sexual sagas. A LOT more goes on in Howard's End even with clothes on. Nobody has much of an "orientation" at all, including "do they have any interest in men or even each other?" Maggie Smith's Charlotte and Judi Dench's Eleanor, the latter just likes to write juicy material rather than experience it herself.


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Posted 24 February 2017 - 12:31 PM

Watching "A Room With A View" again, I realized for the first time, I think, that Cecil Vyse, the character who is played by Daniel Day-Lewis, is a deeply closeted gay man.

 

George Emerson, who is played by Julian Sands, declares, "He wouldn't know what to do with a woman".

 

Daniel Day-Lewis seems aware, too, of the character's true sexual identity.

 

As for Freddy Honeychurch, who is played by Rupert Graves, does he have a crush on George Emerson?

 

Yes, I think so - he gets George out of his clothes and into that swimming hole.

 

"How d'ye do?  Come and have a bathe."

 

As for Mr. Beebee, who is played by Simon Callow, he is unmistakably gay. 

 

The film has an undeniable gay subtext.


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Posted 21 February 2017 - 07:12 PM

" A Place in the Sun" (1951)George (Montgomery Clift) a bi-sexual young man's  relationship with wealthy heiress Angela (Elizabeth Taylor ) is complicated by his affair with Al ( John Ireland) who threatens to expose him.


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Posted 19 February 2017 - 12:00 PM

Dirty Dancing (1987)

 

A young man (Val Kilmer) falls in love with his dance partner (Patrick Swayze) during his summer in the Catskills.

Val Kilmer seems a bit too hot for the part of "Baby" yes I know a Swayze/Kilmer love scene would have been hot


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Posted 19 February 2017 - 09:28 AM

Dirty Dancing (1987)

 

A young man (Val Kilmer) falls in love with his dance partner (Patrick Swayze) during his summer in the Catskills.

 

 


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 08:35 PM

This would have been a hot movie

It was actually a TV movie in 1979 based the Mary MacGregor song of the same name. Lee Remick was the one torn between two lovers (her character was torn between two men), and George Peppard was in the movie as well. I changed it to make Peppard's character torn to make it more interesting. ;)

 

You can't go wrong with that. ;)


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 06:34 PM

Torn Between Two Lovers (1979)

 

A middle aged bisexual man (George Peppard) must decide between his uptight fiancee (Lee Remick) and his architect gay lover (Dirk Benedict).

This would have been a hot movie


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