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  1. cigarjoe

    Noir Alley

    OK had to go back to the places where I usually put down my thoughts to get your answers. The Third Man - It's not overrated at all, think about it, English, German, and Russian spoken no subs, a great International Noir if there ever was one. One of my faves 10/10. Here is the link to the full review of Blue Velvet As far as Chinatown, I haven't seen it it either for quite a while, my impressions of it comparatively to Classic Films Noir is that it was flooded with light with way, way too many day shots. First and foremost it's a Private Eye Film that is more of a Film Soleil those sun baked, filled with light, desert/tropical Noir/Neo Noirs. Fits in with Ace In The Hole, Bad Day At Black Rock, Inferno, Desert Fury, The Scarf, The Hitch-Hiker, Jeopardy, Rage, Delusion, Kill Me Again, Night Moves, To Live and Die in L.A., The Hot Spot, Fargo, Mulholland Falls, Siesta, Private Property, No Country for Old Men, Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia, The Wrong Man (1993) even Detour if you think about it. So I'd say it was a PI film first and foremost, its only nod to the dark side is with the revelation at the very end. On the flip side Farewell My Lovely (1975) is a far more Noir Private Eye film. I haven't critically written about or looked at either Vertigo or Rear Window for a while but both are hovering in my memory around 8-9/10. The Maltese Falcon (1931) First off this is the first go round for Hammett's novel Director was Roy Del Ruth, and Maude Fulton along with Brown Holmes, and Lucien Hubbard wrote the screen adaptation. The film stars Ricardo Cortez as Sam Spade, with Bebe Daniels as Miss Wonderly, Dudley Digges as Caspar Gutman, Otto Matieson as Dr. Jole Cairo, and Dwight Frye as Wilmer Cook. By now Bogart, Lorre, Greenstreet, and Elisha Cook Jr. own the parts of Spade, Cairo, Gutman, and Wilmer. But I'll give a shout out to Cortez for playing Spade as the "ladies man" he comes across as in the book, he's believably slimy and duplicitous, screwing his partners wife, probably doing Effie the secretary, and doing Miss Wonderly who is played convincingly slutty by Bebe Daniels who has also been doing just about everybody also. Daniels is head over heels better than Mary Astor as Miss Wonderly. That said the rest '41 cast is better all the way around. As far as story this version shows a little bit more of the tale than The Hayes Code wouldn't let be shown in the 40s. You get a more sexual Wonderly you see her suggestively naked in a tub, you see her pulling up her skirt and showing her bankroll hidden in her stocking top, later she submits to a strip search in Spades kitchen. In Bogart's film, Wonderly comes off like a cold fish, she may have loved Spade she may not have. We'll never know. In this version, however, it's made clear, in a prison visit by Spade (that is not in the book), that she actually did care for him. This version seems to have more interesting sets but I'll have to watch the '41 film to compare before I can say definitely one way or the other. 7/10 Satan Met a Lady (1936) is a parody of the first version, Bette Davis plays the Wonderly part and Warren William plays Ted Shane filling the Spade part playing it like a con man, the Gutman part is played by a woman and they are all after the "Horn of Roland" in this version. The rest of this cast is forgettable. It does have a nice denouement in a downpour with the ship filling in for the La Paloma burning off shore. 5/10 Here below is what I wrote in 2012 about The Maltese Falcon (1941) Its way more Hard Boiled than Noir. The Maltese Falcon its not at all very dark, but it does have some stylistic touches i.e., shadows imposed by an elevator cage on the face of Mary Astor in her final shot for instance, and some nice camera angles, but none of it is very exaggerated as Noir will get later on in the cycle. Huston's film is the third time the Dashiell Hammett novel was filmed, the 1931 version actually told a bit more of the story and showed Spade as a real ladies man as in the novel. This version (Hayes Code shackled) tones down the sexuality of Spade and the soiled dove quality of Brigid that the novel makes pretty obvious, it also eliminates Spade's strip search of Brigid near the end of the film. In the 1931 version the opening scene shows a pair of female legs adjusting her dress and walking out of Sam Spade's office followed by Spade (Ricardo Cortez) adjusting the pillows on the couch with the definite implication that hanky panky had been taking place. His relationship with Miss Wonderly seems to be sexual for sure and there's no question about his affair with partner Miles Archer's wife Iva. The 1936 "Satan Met a Lady" Betty Davis-William Warren vehicle changes quite a few elements but the story has basically the same dynamics. You decide Astor or Daniels 1941 Astor 1931 Daniels In tub strip search legs There is no denying the iconic status of Bogart as Spade, Lorre as Cairo, Greenstreet as Gutman, or Elisha Cook Jr. as Wilmer, but I did like Bebe Daniels a whole lot better in the '31 turn than Mary Astor in this film. Having just read the original Black Mask Pulp version recently I can say that there really hasn't been a perfect version of The Maltese Falcon yet, though its going to hard trying to top certain aspects of this version. This Warner DVD has a commentary by Bogart biographer Eric Lax, and a Warner Night at The Movies Short Subject Gallery that I haven't watched yet so I'll reply again after I do so. 8/10
  2. cigarjoe

    Noir Alley

    Good to know they may be back.
  3. How about Trump taking a IQ test to prove how much a stable genius he is?
  4. cigarjoe

    Noir Alley

    I just re-watched Where The Sidewalk Ends, with Dana Andrews, Gene Tierney, Gary Merill, Karl Malden, and Craig Stevens. And I was impressed again with Gary Merill's performance as the hood Tommy Scalise. So I got to checking IMDb. He did make quite a few more noirs right after Where The Sidewalk Ends but we never see them, that I can remember on TCM. Another Man's Poison (1951) with Bette Davis, and Emlyn Williams Phone Call from a Stranger (1952) with Bette Davis, Shelley Winters, Michael Rennie, Keenan Wynn, Warren Stevens, and Craig Stevens Night Without Sleep (1952) with Linda Darnell and Hugh Beaumont. The Human Jungle (1954) with Jan Sterling, Regis Toomey, Chuck Connors, and Emile Meyer Others that I have seen are A Blueprint for Murder (1953), Witness to Murder (1954) and the Transitional Noirs The Savage Eye (1960), and The Incident (1967).
  5. cigarjoe

    Getting It Right

    A few days ago I watched The Subterraneans about the Beats, then I thought of Hollywood's ridiculous depictions of the 1960s counter culture and how they almost never used any then current rock music. So that got me thinking that if they could get those wrong, then probably everything else they ever depicted is probably off too. They weren't making documentaries, lol. Western Cattle Drives have been shot pretty authentically looking until you notice the cattle are usually herefords rather than the Texas longhorns they should have been. Off the top of my head think the bikers in The Wild One, what about the surfers in all those Beach Party films. I'm sure we can think of more.
  6. Good enough to make Twump look like a jackass.
  7. So you are deciding what's bogus and whats not.
  8. A bit premature to high five but I guess that's all Twumps got........ Daniels is also suing Trump and his former personal attorney Michael Cohen over the $130,000 payment made to her to keep silent about the alleged affair in the weeks leading up to the 2016 election. The ruling on Monday plays no role in that case, which continues to work its way through the court system. Daniels' attorney, Michael Avenatti, responded to the ruling on Twitter and said: "Daniels' other claims against Trump and Cohen proceed unaffected.
  9. cigarjoe

    I Just Watched...

    Abbott and Costello Meet the Mummy (1955) with Marie Windsor, Richard Deacon, and Michael Ansara. Not as good as them meeting Frankenstein but what is. 6/10
  10. cigarjoe

    Noir Alley

    Brun's next two Noirs were Girl of the Night (1960), and Who Killed Teddy Bear (1963).
  11. In other words when it was America First, America blew it.
  12. I see so its not the case of the pot calling the kettle black I don't support open borders..... Neither do I what we had before good enough. PC...... Neither do I atheism....... Last I heard the constitution guarantees freedom of religion and vise versa from religion NWO..... Numbnuts With Opinions, I can tolerate you globalism...... You mean History of the concept: The word itself came into widespread usage, first and foremost in the United States, from the early 1940s. This was the period when US global power was at its peak: the country was the greatest economic power the world had ever known, with the greatest military machine in human history. As George Kennan's Policy Planning Staff put it in February 1948: "We have about 50% of the world's wealth but only 6.3% of its population. Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity". America's allies and foes in Eurasia were suffering the dreadful effects of World War II at this time. In their position of unprecedented power, US planners formulated policies to shape the kind of postwar world they wanted, which, in economic terms, meant a globe-spanning capitalist order centered exclusively upon the United States. Sounds Like America First, No?
  13. cigarjoe

    Trump's Biggest Whoppers

    Dream on sucka!
  14. cigarjoe

    Noir Alley

    A Woman's Noir yes!
  15. cigarjoe

    Favorite film soundtracks or film songs

    Dagalterun Fandango by Enzo Jannacci in Seven Beauties (1975) Used in this sequence.
  16. cigarjoe

    Noir Alley

    Agree pretty much, about their contributions.... As far as superficial matters she looked a lot better as Ethel with the longer locks than Lorna with whatever you call that bobbed look. Almost the same feeling I have about Rita Hayworth in Gilda as opposed to Rita as Elsa in The Lady from Shanghai.
  17. cigarjoe

    Noir Alley

    Yea agree, dead in the mink would have been the perfect ending. 😎
  18. Now we can all just laugh in the face of all conservatives who claim they have any stake in any type of moral high ground. Thank's to Twump that is Gone forever...........
  19. cigarjoe

    Twump's biggest gift to normal people.....

    Agree Gone Forever......
  20. cigarjoe

    GOP madness Unbound...

    Are you questioning that?
  21. What makes you think they are Democrats? Seems like Repubs go in and or condone all types of debauchery these days
  22. cigarjoe

    Noir Alley

    Enjoyed Eddie's comments and the backstory. I'm curious about Case History by Gertrude Walker now.
  23. She could do a bio pic of Marie Windsor

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