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  1. misswonderly3

    Theme Songs That Fit A Movie or TV Show Perfectly

    I know there've been a lot of television series themes listed here, but has anyone yet mentioned Mad Men? This outstanding series which explored the psyche of a New York City advertising executive and the times in which he lived had a theme song that stuck in your head, just like the characters of the show did. It wasn't exactly "catchy", but it was absolutely unforgettable and absolutely in sync with Mad Men's atmosphere and ideas. It had a mournful, vaguely disturbing quality that completely embodied the show and its themes.
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    Theme Songs That Fit A Movie or TV Show Perfectly

    Good, I'm glad to see there's at least one other Tarantino fan here. However, we won't continue this discussion here because I don't want to derail lavender's interesting thread into something different.
  3. misswonderly3

    Theme Songs That Fit A Movie or TV Show Perfectly

    I know Quentin Tarantino is not a fave on these boards, and that includes his greatest film, Pulp Fiction. (I get the feeling there aren't many "Pulp Fiction" fans on this site...) However, I love this film and I also love the opening credits and the opening song. In fact, the entire soundtrack is fantastic and every song selected perfectly suits whatever scene is being played out. Anyway, back to the opening credits: we have an extended scene of two people, apparently a wild young couple in love, discussing their plan to hold up everyone in the diner they're having their coffee in. This goes on for a few minutes, culminating in the two of them jumping up on their table, pointing their guns at the startled diners, and shouting "EVERYBODY COOL IT, THIS IS A ROBBERY !" "DON'T ANY OF YOU @%?&! ! MOVE !! OR I'LL KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF YA !!!" Then it immediately freeze frames the two would-be bandits and launches at full blast into Dick Dale's "Misirlou". The first time I saw this I thought it was the coolest, most exciting opening for a film I'd ever seen. And the song absolutely captures that coolness.
  4. misswonderly3

    Theme Songs That Fit A Movie or TV Show Perfectly

    I have to point out that this moody, mysterious song, "The Stranger Song", is by the great Canadian song-writer Leonard Cohen. Although not written for the movie per sec, it suits this film perfectly. Cohen's music fills the soundtrack to McCabe and Mrs. Miller; one of my favourite Cohen songs ever is featured later on in the film - "The Sisters of Mercy". One of the most beautiful songs he ever wrote.
  5. misswonderly3

    Theme Songs That Fit A Movie or TV Show Perfectly

    I like the "Goldfinger" song too. Actually, lav, I'd say almost all the James Bond opening credit songs are perfect for the films. And of course, you can't beat the original - it kind of captures all the tension and excitement and "coolness" that was the Bond image.
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    Overrated talents ?

    June Allyson ? Although, come to think of it, June's grown on me over the years. I used to really dislike her and think she was a no-talent, but now I've come around a bit to at least not minding her. But she was maybe over-promoted, given she was rather ordinary. Perhaps it was that very ordinariness that made the studios want to promote her.
  7. misswonderly3

    I Just Watched...

    Interesting. Yes, I was aware there was a remake, but I haven't seen it. Maybe, if the original film had been less reticent about the sex you say is in the novella and in the remake, it might have been a more effective movie. But if Helen Mirren plays Mrs. Stone the way Vivien Leigh did - which is to say, completely passive and lacking in ideas or any kind of joie de vivre (don't get me wrong, I like Vivien Leigh) - I still probably would not enjoy it.
  8. misswonderly3

    Staying here?

    I like to think so too, Dargs. Which reminds me, I keep meaning to post on that "Dedications" thread, maybe we here at the TCM boards should dedicate a movie to finance /aka DownGoesFrazier: it would have to be The Apartment, I believe he said that was his favourite movie. Also, for "Lorrie", who sadly passed away several years ago but who used to post here about John Garfield: I'd dedicate a movie to her, of course a John Garfield one.Maybe Force of Evil, or The Breaking Point. And of course, a dedication for our old friend Fred C. Dobbs, who also died a few years ago. He was a frequent poster here. His dedication movie would have to be The Treasure of the Sierra Madre.
  9. misswonderly3

    I Just Watched...

    Well, that was fun. Thanks, Fedya, I haven't thought of that song in ages. (Maybe if Karen Stone had had Barrie Manilow to swing her around, she'd have cheered right up.)
  10. misswonderly3

    I Just Watched...

    Thanks for your take on the film, rayban. Yes, I believe everything you said about it is true. I had those same insights as I watched it (except for the final scene, where I really thought there was a strong chance she was going to be, quite literally, murdered. But degradation will also suit the purposes of the story...) Here's the thing though: I don't care. I don't care about characters who are self-absorbed and "don't have the resources to invent a new life" for themselves. A leading character in a film doesn't have to be "good" (often I prefer them not to be), or even likable, for me to be engaged in their story. But they do have to be interesting. And Karen Stone is not in the least bit interesting. She is, as you say, unable to cope, because "it's always been all about her", and she doesn't know how to manage now that she's lost both her youth and her husband. She doesn't even want to continue her friendships, and the one she had with Meg (Coral Browne) seemed worth keeping. Meg is the only character who seems to genuinely care about Karen, and the only one who is honest with her. But of course, because of that very honesty, Karen Stone avoids Meg. She never wants to have "real" conversations with anyone. She never developed an interest in anything else - not even the theatre, it seems. Her acting career was, apparently, just a way for her to get the adoring attention she sought. Mrs. Stone is a completely uninteresting person, and as such, her story did not interest me. For me, there's nothing about The Roman Spring of Mrs. Stone that moves or even provokes me.
  11. misswonderly3

    Staying here?

    Actually, it's the other way around...this TCM site pays me to post here.
  12. misswonderly3

    I Just Watched...

    THE ROMAN SPRING OF MRS STONE there will be SPOILERS (even though this film doesn't have much plot) I wonder if they selected this to air on Good Friday because it's got the word "Roman" in it. 😐 (In which case, they'd have done better showing "Roman Holiday".) Anyway, this film made me realize something I've suspected for a long time: I don't like Tennessee Williams. He's over-wrought and over-rated. (The Roman Spring of Mrs. Stone is based on a novel, or novella, or whatever, that he wrote. And here I thought he just wrote plays.) The Roman Spring of Mrs. Stone is what I call a much-ado-about-nothing film. It takes a tired story and does nothing new with it. Oh, unless you count the nasty "surprise" ending. Mrs. Stone, effectively played by an older but still lovely Vivien Leigh, is an aging ex-star of the stage. She's a little like Margo Channing, but without the personality. She has enough sense and wisdom to realize she's too old to play characters like Rosalind (you know, the young girl who masquarades as a boy from "As You Like It"), but not enough to figure out that there are perhaps other roles she could play*, and other things she could do. For example, she inherits a lot of money when her husband dies - this within the first five minutes of the film - but it doesn't seem to occur to her do try and do anything with that money except hang around in Rome looking elegant and vaguely depressed. Enter Contessa Magda, arguably the only interesting character in the story. The Contessa's a sort of female pimp; she parades handsome young men to rich older women in the hope that they'll become the rich women's gigoloes, and share some of the largesse with her (the Contessa.) This, I must admit, was at least an intriguing set-up. Sleazy and distasteful, but at least a bit different. I kind of liked this horrible character, maybe because of the way she was played by Lotte Lenya (you know, the lesbian spy-meister in "From Russia with Love"). Countess Magda parades (I mean, introduces) a young virile Warren Beatty, complete with what looks like a fake tan and definitely a fake Italian accent, to Mrs. Stone, who at first sees clearly what's going on and demurs. But, for reasons not entirely clear (Warren Beatty's obvious handsome-ness finally gets to her?), she does eventually succumb to his attractiveness, in a scene entirely devoid of charm or passion. Or even humour. The rest of the film just delineates the predictable, inevitable, somewhat sordid downward spiral of their affair. Mrs. Stone, despite her passion (I think it's supposed to be passion, it's hard to tell) for "Paolo" (Warren Beatty), refuses to play the gigolo-sponsor role, the sugar -mama. Oh, she buys him clothes and takes him out to dinner, but she never gives him any real cash; she won't even leave her jewels lying conveniently around for him to accidentally pick up.After a while Paolo tires of pretending to be in love with a rich woman who just wants him to pretend to be in love with her for free. He gets restless, as does the Countess, who as his female pimp, complains that she's seen no profit, not even a lousy 500 bucks, from her scheming and her efforts. Anyway, blah blah, surprise surprise, the affair ends badly, with Paolo mocking and insulting Karen Stone and running off to a hotel assignation with, improbably, Jill St. John, who actually is as young and beautiful as he is. Oh, I forgot to mention-- throughout the film, we see another young man, maybe not as pretty as Warren Beatty, slinking and sneaking around outside Mrs. Stone's apartment. We never hear him say anything, nor does Mrs. Stone ever speak to him, except once, to ask him why he's following her. But he disappears before she can get an answer. This is where the SPOILER maybe comes in: earlier, Paolo mocks Karen by telling her that rich women like her often end up dead in their beds, murdered not by intruders but by a man they've invited in to their home. After the humiliating break-up with Paolo, Mrs. Stone, presumably in a slough of despair, throws her keys down to the sinister stalker. The final scene has her sitting in her room, smoking, as the stalker opens her door. THE END. So, I guess we're supposed to assume that the stalker kills her and that she more or less committed suicide by throwing him her keys. Oooh, this is deep. No, it's not deep. Nor is it meaningful, or thought-provoking, or even sad. It's just annoying that I sat through 100 minutes of somewhat dull drama to find that Mrs. Stone is a rather shallow, self-absorbed woman who can't face the fact that she's no longer young and can't think of anything interesting or worthwhile to do with the rest of her life. I don't know whether to blame Tennessee Williams- after all, he's the original author - or the screenwriter (Gavin Lambert) or the director (Jose Quintero). But I think I'll mostly blame Tennessee Williams, as his stories, as far as the ones I'm familiar with, are always over-wrought, with few likable characters and almost no wit or humour. In other words, he's no fun. *Ok, yes, good roles for older women, on stage OR screen, have always been scarce, especially maybe in 1961. But Karen Stone doesn't even try to find any...
  13. misswonderly3

    What Would Be Your Fan Dedication Movie?

    I agree, Paths of Glory is a great film, and would definitely belong on any programming that honours movies to be remembered. I think it's so good, I own the DVD (on Criterion, no less !) It's Stanley Kubrick's best film, in my opinion. Everything about it is well-done, from the editing and pace (you can't take your eyes away from it), to the fine acting, especially on the part of Kirk Douglas and Adolph Menjou, to the frustrating story-line (every time I watch it, I want Macready to change his mind about the sacrificial soldiers idea), to, as you say, the touching final scene. Thanks for mentioning this outstanding movie. EDIT (again !) : Now I'll be thinking of my Mum and Dad, both of whom "are no longer with us", and come up with one of their (each of them) favourite classic movies.
  14. misswonderly3

    What Would Be Your Fan Dedication Movie?

    Detective Jim, I'm embarrassed to admit, I'm not really up on the "fan dedication" thing TCM seems to be doing this month. I haven't seen any of the intros. Can you direct me to a link on the TCM website here that explains what's going on with this, what the concept behind it is (although yeah, I can kind of figure it out), etc.? I've noticed they're doing this but I feel as though I somehow missed out on the starting gate, so to speak. Thanks. EDIT: Never mind, I found it. It wasn't very hard to do ! (Duh) Here it be in case anyone else wants to read more about it: http://www.tcm.com/this-month/article/1479225|0/Fan-Dedications-4-15-19-4-22-26.html
  15. Thanks, Gersh. Yeah, after I read the rest of the thread (well, even before ) I figured that out. I mean, just a bit later Joe comes up with another one that should win some kind of award or something. Maybe someone (Jeanne Crain, perhaps?) should start a thread that challenges the posters here on this site to come up with the most bullshite, erudite, pretentious-sounding, nonsensical post and see what happens. But yeah, clearly joe was having a bit of fun. This is one of those threads that goes nowhere, but that for some reason engages a certain kind of poster (some of whom I really like, this is not a criticism of those posters). Not for me. I was never good at math. And I hate philosophy.

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