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  1. Of course there's that party scene in Sunday Bloody Sunday where a couple is having a heated argument and the drunken wife bares her chest, and one of the gay guests says to another, "Here come those tired old ____" again.
  2. William Haines became well known as an interior decorator who furnished the homes of many of his Hollywood friends. Greer Garson was another race horse owner. The most famous horse she and her husband owned was Ack Ack, who as a five-year-old became Horse of the Year. Polly Bergen owned a dress shop in her hometown in Tennessee and, IIRC, had interests in the cosmetics industry.
  3. As music for the day, try the delightful song "By the Goona-Goona Lagoon" from The Golden Apples. You can find it on YouTube.
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    Movies That It Sometimes Feels That Only You Alone Like?

    They were indeed two of the dumbest characters ever in a Hollywood romantic movie. Believable, but not too bright.
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    Movies That It Sometimes Feels That Only You Alone Like?

    No, you're not confusing it with something else. Theresa Russell is very seductive in Black Widow, and at times some of that energy seems to be directed toward Debra Winger, who is trying to prove Russell is a killer.
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    Marsha Mason

    Marsha Mason had a small part on Love of Life, playing a gal who worked in the newspaper office, IIRC. I thought she was interesting and wished they had given her a bigger role in the story. She obviously moved on to bigger things.
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    I Just Watched...

    I enjoyed The Red Badge of Courage and can only wish that someday somewhere a full version of the film, with the 25 minutes MGM cut, can be found, restored, and shown. Nicely directed by John Huston and well acted. Audie Murphy is quite effective, and Arthur Hunnicutt in particular is a real plus.
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    The Soap Opera Thread

    For those of us who love Soapdish: remember how the executive producer, Robert Downey, Jr., wants to kill off Celeste, the main character played by Sally Field, because "Then it will be my show"? That has happened in real life. TopBilled will be interested because it involves Search for Tomorrow. Mary-Ellis Bunim, the EP, wanted to kill off Jo, the character Mary Stuart had played since the beginning of the show and who had always been the central character, but Procter & Gamble would not allow her to do it. They did allow her to kill off Jo's sister Eunice (then played by Ann Williams).
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    The Soap Opera Thread

    I know we could keep hijacking the Blue Denim thread, but there is so much to discuss concerning the soaps, their actors, storylines, etc. Obviously there are a number of us who are or were devoted soap opera watchers, and I only wish I had made notes. So many of the early soap opera episodes were taped over. Many performances now exist only in our memories, just like theater performances. Movies and soaps had a great connection, with young stars sometimes moving to the big screen--I remember Christopher Reeve on Love on Life, one of many examples--and aging stars moving back to the small screen. Please join the conversation.
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    The Soap Opera Thread

    More on the Reinholt saga: Harding (Pete) Lemay starts writing the show. Victoria Wyndham is cast as Rachel. Steve and Alice marry, and Alice gets pregnant. However, Alice falls (from a stepladder?), loses the baby, and is told she can never have more children. Later on she overhears a conversation about how Steve was with Rachel when she fell. She assumes they were having sex (they weren't) and is so upset that she runs off to New York without talking to Steve (hey, this is what soap opera characters do). Alice gets a job looking after the son of journalist Eliot Carrington (James Douglas), whose neurotic ex-wife is very much on the scene: enter Beverlee McKinsey as Iris Carrington. Steve becomes so frustrated at Alice's absence that he asks for a divorce. They divorce, still without having seen each other, and Steve marries Rachel. Rachel has what she always wanted, but it doesn't make either her or Steve happy. With Steve and Alice having been kept apart for months, the scene where they finally meet sent the ratings soaring. The popularity of the show, and of George Reinholt and Jacquie Courtney, was never greater. They even made an appearance together on the Mike Douglas Show (I think), at a time when it was almost unheard of for soap actors to be on talk shows. Lemay really disliked and/or disliked writing for four of the stars of the show when he took over: Val Dufour (Walter Curtin), Virginia Dwyer (Mary Matthews), George Reinholt, and Jacquie Courtney. By the way, I was a fan of all four. Val Dufour's character was already written into a corner when Lemay took over (more on this later), and it was reasonable to write him out. Virginia Dwyer had been the show's matriarch from day one. Lemay did not understand middle-class families--he was from a large, poor family. Apparently Dwyer became difficult to do scenes with, changing lines, etc., and Lemay eventually had Mary Matthews die of a heart attack offscreen (Virginia Dwyer refused to do an onscreen death scene). This sent shock waves through the audience. Virginia Dwyer had been like a second mother to Jacquie Courtney, so this worsened Lemay's relationship with Courtney. George Reinholt's ego had apparently grown with his popularity, and whatever personal demons he had probably also grew, and he became disruptive on set, which became even more of a problem as the show expanded to 60 minutes. Once they had to film a day's scenes cold with no dress rehearsal because he had complained so much. Lemay, executive producer Paul Rauch, and Proctor & Gamble bit the bullet and fired Reinholt, sending him a registered letter at home after he had completed his last scene. More shock waves through the audience. It was inevitable that Jacquie Courtney would be next, with her two closest friends on the show now gone. In the story Steve Frame was killed in a plane crash in Australia, and Courtney refused to do Lemay's proposed storyline about Alice adopting a little girl. Reinholt and Courtney soon surfaced on One Life to Live. At the time, this behind the scenes soap opera was followed as avidly as any of the shows themselves. It's clear from Lemay's memoir that he made the existing problems worse by making his disdain for the actors obvious.
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    The Soap Opera Thread

    Some history about George Reinholt, part one: One of the most famous soap opera storylines began when Robin Strasser (Rachel) learned that she was pregnant. The headwriter, Agnes Nixon, decided to write this into the show. Rachel, the show's bad girl, was disappointed that her husband Russ Matthews (Sam Groom) wasn't rich enough for her. However, his younger sister Alice (Jacquie Courtney) was engaged to the wealthy Steven Frame (George Reinholt). When Alice and Steve were having problems, he had a one-night stand with Rachel, who of course became pregnant. Alice's mother (Virginia Dwyer) thought that asking Rachel to help plan Alice's wedding was a good way to make Rachel feel part of the family. The night before the wedding Rachel spitefully told Alice everything, so Alice called off the wedding. The popularity of all three actors in the triangle kept soaring as fans rooted for Alice and Steve to get back together. Courtney and Reinholt had great chemistry, and Strasser was the favorite "love to hate" character on any soap at the time. Real life intervened again. Jacquie Courtney married and moved to Mississippi with her husband. There was a big farewell scene as Alice left for Paris (beats Mississippi, IMO) and viewers could hope that Alice would return. The writers did not pair Reinholt with another actress, involving him with other plotlines. When Courtney did return, viewers were thrilled and the popularity of the couple continued to grow. If Reinholt's ego grew, that was understandable. The next turn of events was that Robin Strasser wanted to leave the show. She was first replaced by a lookalike who was, however, a nice simple girl and thus totally wrong to play Rachel. Strasser came back for a bit, but did eventually leave. At this time Rachel was married to a reformed ex-con named Ted Clark (Stephen Bolster). That was the situation when Robert Cenedella, who had succeeded Agnes Nixon as headwriter, was replaced by Harding Lemay. The situation was going to change--first for better, then for worse.
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    The Soap Opera Thread

    George Reinholt's appearance on Sally Jessy Raphael's show can be found on YouTube. Reinholt had problems with Harding Lemay, headwriter from 1971-1979, I think. Some AW viewers consider the Lemay years the high point of the show, but to me it was much more mixed. You might be able to find Lemay's Eight Years in Another World at a public library or through interlibrary loan; it's now out of print and very expensive to buy on Amazon or ABE. I will write more extensively about this, but this is the short version. George Reinholt and Jacquie Courtney were probably the most popular couple on the soaps. Lemay didn't really respect their work because they didn't have theater backgrounds. When Victoria Wyndham joined the show as the new Rachel, Lemay put the triangle at the center of a very popular story. AW was the first show to go to 60 minutes, and many of the scenes about this time (for all the actors) were padded and badly written because the writing hadn't adjusted to the new format. Reinholt complained loudly about this. He eventually became so disruptive that Lemay and Paul Rauch, the executive producer, fired him.
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    Noir Alley

    I find the stylized Clifford Odets dialogue to be off-putting. We seem to feel the same way about the film. With that cast and Fritz Lang as director, Clash by Night ought to be really good.
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    Noir Alley

    Trapped turned out to be a real find. Excellent restoration. Loved all the location shots of L.A. There were some nice little twists along the way, and Eddie Muller explained the reason for the problematic area of the script. Nicely directed by Richard Fleisher. Lloyd Bridges is mighty good, and Barbara Payton certainly has what it takes to be a noir dame. I'll be interested next week to hear why Eddie considers Clash by Night to be noir.
  15. Oh, buddy, that may be the ultimate putdown!
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    The Soap Opera Thread

    I've never read the PhD theses--thank goodness--but there was indeed same sex neck-biting. I would mention one, but there are people watching the series unfold, so I'll let them discover it for themselves.
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    Movies That It Sometimes Feels That Only You Alone Like?

    A film I like which many do not is Two Loves. There used to be several people on these boards who HAAAATED Laurence Harvey. Shirley MacLaine as a kooky schoolteacher is typecasting, although MacLaine as a virgin schoolteacher--isn't that Joanne Woodward territory? Juano Hernandez plays a Maori chief, and Jack Hawkins is a kindly school inspector. Location shooting in New Zealand. Very well directed by Charles Walters (at least according to me).
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    The Soap Opera Thread

    IIRC, in the Nicholas Blair storyline Joe Haskell was bitten by Angelique and he was taken off to a sanitarium, and that was the last we heard of him. That was before the Quentin storyline began.
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    Noir Alley

    Thanks, Lorna--but I'm not smart enough to put the review of Country Music in the "I Just Watched" thread where it belongs.
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    Glenda Jackson Returns

    Diary of a Mad Housewife was a popular arthouse film. It was actually quite good, and Carrie Snodgress would have had my vote for the Oscar. Ali McGraw was considered a strong possibility for the win because Love Story was such a popular film. Glenda Jackson winning for Touch of Class was one of the weirdest wins ever. People don't usually win for comedies, and the film, though successful, wasn't a huge hit.
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    The Soap Opera Thread

    And some people might think Soapdish wasn't realistic. We know better. Characters who died on screen have been brought back (Brandon Spaulding on Guiding Light, for one).
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    The Soap Opera Thread

    What happened was that Joel Crothers (Joe Haskell, Nathan Forbes) got cast on The Secret Storm. I don't think he is ever referred to again on DS. They went back to the past and never created a character for him, and then he isn't around when they returned to the present. IIRC, Vicky and Peter Bradford/Jeff Clark leave together to find true happiness. If Alexandra Moltke had stayed or if they had found an adequate replacement, they would probably have continued a Vicky storyline. As it was, they simply used Kathryn Leigh Scott and Kate Jackson for similar roles. The Count Petofi story was one I loved. Thayer David was such a fun villain.
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    Glenda Jackson Returns

    It's possible that Hilary Swank is the most obscure actress ever to win two Oscars, and outside of these boards few people know who Luise Rainer is. There's competition for that honor! And I'm pretty sure that Marsha Mason is the most obscure actress ever to be nominated for three Oscars.
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    The Soap Opera Thread

    General Hospital currently has a situation almost identical to the Days cast replacement Lawrence described. Steve Burton left the show to "spend more time with his family in Nashville" . . . and then resurfaced on The Young & the Restless as the son Nikki never knew she had when she was in a cult years ago. Don't laugh, these things can happen! So Billy Miller, who was on Y&R, jumped to GH to replace Steve Burton as Jason, only, see, because of amnesia he didn't know he was Jason until his memory started coming back. But then Steve Burton wanted to come back to GH, so the writers decided that the bad guys had implanted Jason's memories in poor not-Jason-after-all, who was really someone called Drew. There's yet another memory implant storyline currently going on. Another guy now has been implanted with Drew's memories. Writers will do anything to bring back popular actors, no matter how crazy the method.
  25. I also love The Defense, which is not funny. Pale Fire is a poem with footnotes--but the footnotes are, in effect, a novel, as the critic reads all of his personal concerns into the poem. Though some of Nabokov's novels stick in the memory more than others, most of them are well worth reading.

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