CaveGirl

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  1. Whilst reading of the dissatisfaction of some, about continued showings of "My Fair Lady", I accidentally happened upon the film yesterday I think. Pardon me, but sometime the days run together after watching too many films... As I was starting to turn it off, due to realizing that I was saying dialogue before the actors did since I knew the scene so well...I started noticing the incredible Cecil Beaton [i think] designed backdrops in the Henry Higgins' home and became enraptured. The decorations and furniture and wallpaper were superb, and of true Victorian style with money being no object obviously to attain such sublime perfection. I then forgot about the movie per se, and just started looking at all the clothes, architecture, art nouveau statues and framed pictures on the wall and was totally enjoying myself. Then I remembered a true aesthete and scholar I once met, who said that one always wants to revisit a great book, as they find new things every time they read it. I think movies can be the same for some people. I think I've watched "Vertigo" at least twenty-five times and now am so secure in what is happening in the plot that I can ignore it and look to see if the cars are consistent on the streets as Jimmy Stewart drives around them from different angles, and try to figure out why the lamps behind Kim's bed in her apartment sometimes have shades and sometimes don't. I think it was in the foreign movie, "Amelie" that there is a scene where the dialogue concentrates on watching a fly on the screen behind someone in perhaps "Jules and Jim". So for a crazed film fan, of a great movie...there can never be too many showings as there is always something new to look at and enjoy that one might have not had a chance to see before, being that they may have ONLY been watching the main actors and action in previous viewings.
  2. Now that good old J.D. has croaked...I mean, died, maybe his estate will allow "TCITR" to be filmed. And if so, who should play Holden? I realize we have some great possibilities here, right at the TCM site but who would YOU choose? Maybe they will do something on the Glass family also, and other of his works. I think he was wise to not marry Oona, as she would have dumped him for Chaplin eventually anyway doncha think?
  3. CaveGirl

    Are Paul Newman movies classics?

    Miss Wonderly, I was rereading previous posts in this thread and noticed this statement [ostensibly by you] about "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid:: "Actually, having read this entire thread so far, I venture to say I'm the only one here who's said they don't like that movie." I just wanted to add my vote to your dislike of that movie. I think it falls into the category of a film that was very popular at one time, and has a sentimental following but deep down you know it is not...uh, really that great. I remember talking to a man at a party once, and we got to discussing movies and he said to me, "Oh if you love films you must love my favorite film..."BCATSK". Gee, I thought...should I burst his bubble or not. POP! P.S. He got over it and we remained cordial.
  4. CaveGirl

    Ding Dong, Salinger's Dead!

    Laffite, please excuse my oh so tardy reply but I want to thank you most profusely for revealing the Sapphic connection to the plethora of mysterious posts in this thread. Having just read a biography about famous Sappho, Natalie Barney and other assorted people like Rilke, who was the boy whose mother dressed him as a girl till a late age [shades of Norman Bates perhaps] I found this whole TCM ossuary of facts most interesting. Following the vicissitudes and meanderings of the TCM members would be otherwise as difficult as reading "Ulysses" without the Cliff Notes! I remain, your devoted student, CG.
  5. CaveGirl

    How About a Shout Out for John Litel?

    This is the kind of actor I always enjoy seeing in a film. I always watch the credits when a film begins, and if the decidedly talented Mister Litel is in it, I know I am in for a good time. He could play many types of roles and was always reliably impressive. Cheers to him and bravo to this call for a "shout out" for him also!
  6. CaveGirl

    Attack of The 50 Foot Woman

    Some movies stick with you and they don't even have to be classics or with multi-million dollar budgets. One of these is "Attack of the 50-Foot Woman" of which I can visualize whole scenes today even though I've not viewed it in many years. Was not her philandering hubby called "Harry"? I can recall as a kid watching this with my brother and neighborhood kids, and seeing that giant rather flabby hand with the long, painted fingernails going into the bar maybe and trying to grab Harry away from the adorable Yvette Vickers. Also remember Allison continually calling out Harry's name as she searched for him all over the county while wearing that very attractive towel. It's a classic scene just as is the scene of Grant Williams fighting the spider in "The Incredible Shrinking Man" or Kevin McCarthy looking into the zombie seed pod eyes of Dana Wynter in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers".
  7. CaveGirl

    "Loosely based on a true story"

    To me the disclaimer "loosely based on a true story" means that what will be following is "quasi-factitious". Now I just coined that term but it seems apt considering what "factitious" means and all the Lifetime movies formulated on this very concept. Just for the record...I do not watch Lifetime Movies since I don't enjoy seeing Jaclyn Smith playing neurologists or attorneys.
  8. CaveGirl

    Are Paul Newman movies classics?

    I decided to answer this question blindly, by not reading any of the previous responses which might influence me. I think some of Paul Newman's films are classics of their kind, but I don't particularly think it is due to him as an actor, which may lend fuel to the fire here which is not my intent. I don't dislike Paul Newman as an actor or him as a person, but I often felt he was a bit overrated. I actually like him much more in his older parts than the ones he is most famous for, as he seems to have mellowed a bit and is not so fatuously smug. In his early films, I always thought he was a bit mannered and stiff, and I personally am more attuned to an actor like Ernest Borgnine in "Marty" than a type like Paul Newman in "From the Terrace" or others like "The Long Hot Summer". I often found his performances to be unintentionally humorous, as in when he portrayed Rocky Graziano. When he was in his element, as in something like "Hud" I think he complements the film. Films like BCASK survive more on personality of the stars than maybe the greatest acting skills and Paul Newman was successful at being Paul Newman on screen than anyone else in my estimation. A movie can be a classic without everyone in it being classic...can't it?
  9. Love him, love him, love him...regardless of what Groucho Marx said about him. Did I mention I just finished reading the Hedy Lamarr biography?
  10. Apropos of the film, "Wrestling Women vs. the Aztec Mummy"...Herr Herzog was often quoted as saying something like "film is not the art of scholars but that of illiterates". Being that many great and insightful films were written, directed or created by people like Keaton and Chaplin or even Polanski who had little formal education and did not need film school to know how to make an incredible work of art, this seems like a feasible presumption from Herzog. And if so, why then would there be a need for a film scholar or film critic, to explain said processes for others in the general populace or elevated strata even, Herzog seemed to believe. Now I'm not saying education is a deterrent to creation of worth, but it may not be a necessity either. I do recall Truman Capote once stating though that he felt intellectuality was a stumbling block to the artistic process for actors, so one wonders how he would feel about the Herzog dictum in general. I'm conflicted. There are some film critics I can appreciate but on the obverse side it does seem a bit like the newscasters on tv who will spend hours explaining a president's address right after it is given, as if the viewing audience is too dense to understand anything. One of my favorite reviews of a film, is the one for Bresson's "AHB" which stated something pithy like that it was the world in an hour and a half, which is brilliant I feel. Of course this was from Jean-Luc Godard who had some interesting takes on his own profession also. What's your take?
  11. It would seem that the perfect place to showcase this magnificent film by Rainier Werner Fassbinder would be the Turner Classic Movie channel. It's like fifteen and a half hours long, and could be shown in installments like a mini-series. Though I've spent a lot of money on movies in my time, hundreds for boxed sets of stuff that I had to have...this is one I've never bought. Is there anyone else here who would like to see it play on TCM, besides me? The last film I bought of Fassbinder's was "Querelle" which I am going to admit holds a strange distinction in my film library. I am equally thrilled and repulsed by it at the same time. It is freakishly unique, and perhaps this is due to being a tale from the pen of the notorious Jean Genet. The voiceovers are mesmerizing, and Brad Davis is great but the standout performance in my estimation is Franco Nero, as the smitten military head entranced with Davis. Jeanne Moreau is something else too but I digress. Fassbinder is unique in cinema and another of his films that would be fun to see is "Mother Kusters Goes to Heaven". I think "Querelle" might just be a bit too much for TCM, but maybe I'm wrong.
  12. CaveGirl

    Fassbinder's "Berlin Alexanderplatz"

    Ah, you mention the sacred word..."Criterion", Andy! I once entered a contest in which the prize was a copy of every Criterion film on dvd. At the time, "Playtime" had been out of print for awhile, and selling on Ebay for like 150 bucks, and it was included in the package but alas I did not win. Happily though, they did finally rerelease Tati's film and I was satisfied. I love Fritz and Pabst and agree that a week of such films might be in order, and if there was not a protest I'd also like to see some of the work of Leni Reifenstahl who was a superlative director in spite of her, shall we say...unsavory predilections. I think she later discounted such connections, but still... I'm glad you chose a roof over buying a Criterion film, Andy...good choice if it rains in your area! Thanks so much for your note of approval!
  13. Totally enjoyed rewatching BM and I always like seeing Helen Walker. Dennis O'Keefe would be asked to build up his leg muscles though if he was working in films today. That one scene with just his jockey shorts on, would have required him to have calf implants surgically implanted nowadays!
  14. It has deeply bothered me for years, that Jackie Coogan's films as a child, have never been showcased much on TCM. Sure, they play "The Kid" but Jackie was one of the world's biggest film stars in his youth challenging even Chaplin as a favorite world-wide. But alas, we never seem to get to see them. In over twenty years I do believe I've seen one of his silents but things like "Peck's Bad Boy" I don't recall ever seeing here. And...the best Tom Sawyer bar none, was Jackie Coogan in an early talkie. Now don't get me wrong, I'm happy to even see the cute guy as grown-up as a sleazy drug dealer in things like "High School Confidential" but it really would be nice to see his films from the time of after "The Kid" up to around 1932 as he was the premier child star of that time. Indulge me, TCM! Anyone else a Jackie fan and do you own his pencil box and doll collectibles from the 1920's?
  15. CaveGirl

    Is Blow-Up a great movie?

    Isn't any film with vintage footage of the Yardbirds, with both Jimmy Page AND Jeff Beck tantamount to any claims of greatness. Now the word "great" is not really indicative of being that great anymore, as there are so many other words, not even taken from Latin or Greek that indicate a summa state and talent and abilities are now really not so evident in the general populace of entertainers but I digress... I think for me, if it is an Antonioni film...it definitely is great and "Blow-Up" is great also due to being a chronicling of a specific time period in Britain, that was unique and very Carnaby Streetish so in that sense, just like Richard Barthelmess in "T'olable David" which has scenes of Americana backwoods never to be seen again, B-U is great for the same reason. Or...I could be wrong so kill me!
  16. CaveGirl

    No love for Canada on Canada Day, TCM?

    Hey, Terrya...you said a mouthful! Is it anathema to state unequivocally that SCTV was way superior to SNL? Probably but I bet many would take the chance to be horsewhipped to state such. Who can ever forget the SCTV sketch wherein Eugene Levy portrayed Floyd the Barber in an "Andy Griffith" show take-off to just give one uproarious example. And Andrea Martin as any character, leopard hatted or as the immigrant woman. I would say SCTV was an acquired taste for some, and those Canadian public service moments were unforgettable too.
  17. Finally, addendumwise...thanks, Calamity for your comment! Primosprimos, I appreciate your chastizement of the overzealous censor too! JJG, I get your drift and it's not really that I so believe the smaller part performers need tributes, but perhaps just a bit of distaste for the continual "star"-bleating and larger than life chest pounding in promos. If I could get the ad guy who wrote that line "all the stars in the heavens" I would wring his neck. I picture someone like Lionel Stander sitting there and concocting all that hooey and then laughing and saying it over and over to all the press agents at MGM. I guess I'm just a sucker for the Charles Middletons of the world, and I should leave now and go watch his amazing performance on my new dvd of "Strangler of the Swamp" starring NO stars unless you consider Blake Edwards a star, as a lowly actor before his more impressive directorial days.
  18. Attention TCM Programmers: Less stars more nebula! After considerable discussion with many of erstwhile TCM aficionado friends, I have come to the conclusion that the stars have had more than enough attention for eons and it is time to pay tribute to the background people in films, who supported them. Seriously now, even in real life…the seemingly important people could not get along or continue their importance, without the “little people” like the butcher, the baker, the candlestick-maker or even their plumber, limo driver or Terminix man. Would Cagney have been able to go nuts in prison if Margaret Wycherly was not his domineering mama, or would Marilyn have been able to have a an air conditioner at her disposal without Tom Ewell? And for that matter, would Jimmy Stewart have figured out “how to kiss a girl and not talk her to death”, without Dick Elliott? I think not! So the time has come finally, I feel to pay tribute where tribute is due to the “little people” in films, remembering always though that “there are no small parts, just small actors” according to Stanislavski and you know he was always on the money. So, may I suggest that some special time monthly or intermittently be set aside to honor those who made films seem so real and were the unrecognized glitter behind the stars. A few of the actors that I personally would elevate to star status, are folks like Barbara Nichols, Louis Jean Heydt, Gloria Holden, Oscar Homolka, Norma Varden, Martin Kosleck, Jessie Royce Landis, Jessie Ralph, Clem Bevans, Ian Wolfe, Harry Davenport, Almira Sessions, Whit Bissell, Sybil Jason, Una O’Connor, Dan Tobin and Eily Malyon. If I see their name in the cast, I ALWAYS watch. There are others who did reach some public recognition in a bit more elevated echelon like Roland Young, Mary Boland, Arthur Hunnicutt…and they too should be featured. Would not a whole day of films, like a Rondo Hatton or Bud Cort Film Festival not be fun, and being that every film any of even the most minor of dress extras always featured stars, this would not hurt anyone who bores easily amongst the viewing audience. A favorite I always look for in the background of films is the immortal Bess Flowers, whose most famous role was probably as the woman who congratulates Eve at the Sarah Siddons award finale of “All About Eve”. She has graced so many films as a dowager queen or society lady she should be given a star in Hollywood but I digress. So…who’s with me, and if no one is I shall go to my girl cave and just watch my thousands of old videotapes and dvd’s and separate myself from society and the blame will be laid on all of you. If you do like this idea, please vote for your particular dress extras, chorines, cab drivers, newsboys, gangster molls, and movie brats that you would like to see featured in a TCM festival. Speaking of brats like Baby Leroy, I also think TCM should have a W.C. Fields’ Festival and show the more obscure early stuff like “International House” and others. Okay, now I’ll shut up…
  19. Thanks, Arturo! I stand corrected. Glad to hear that Vera was more of a star in her day than perhaps she is thought of now. It is true, often only by reading old movie magazines or talking to an older generation person does one find out truth vs. fiction in movie lore. I remember talking to a relative whose family owned a movie theatre locally, whose film knowledge was encyclopedic and we got talking about Alfred and Lynn Fontanne. I remarked that the scuttlebutt was that they found the movies vulgar so only appeared in TG as a kindness and then went back to the "theatuh"! My relative said..."No, no, no...that is NOT what happened. They were not liked by the movie buying public as they appeared stiff on-screen and their films did not do good box office, which is why they left films." Now, maybe she was right and maybe she was wrong, but I do listen to those who were actually alive and on the scene, when discussing events of the past, because only believing what one reads can be very suspect if one seeks the truth about anything.
  20. CaveGirl

    Egregious Examples of Miscasting

    Dargo, just want to say thanks to you for posting the Robert Easton stuff. I always dig it when I see him in a movie or old tv show. He was truly fab to watch!
  21. CaveGirl

    Black Moon (1975)

    I so concur, SF. I was almost as thrilled about BM being on, as I am about TCM scheduling Bunuel's "Diary of a Chambermaid" for Sunday, July 6th at 4:00am. The close-ups on the feet, are almost as bizarre as in his film, "El'. "Black Moon" also has Joe Dallesandro who I only know from oddball roles in Andy Warhol films, so this should be entertaining...
  22. CaveGirl

    No love for Canada on Canada Day, TCM?

    I so agree! In protest, I shall ban TCM from my abode for a 24-hour period and just watch my complete SCTV dvd boxed set. I also shall drink only Canada Dry all day and eat Canadian Bacon and tomato and lettuce sandwiches. Uh, maybe might have some Canadian Club also!
  23. CaveGirl

    Ding Dong, Salinger's Dead!

    Forget about movies, I am finding it much more interesting to follow the fascinating insinuations in this thread about some perhaps former member nicknamed "She Who Must Not Be Named". I only know of "She Who Must Be Obeyed" from that Ursula A. film, and am so insanely curious as to exactly who is being discussed here by Laffite, Swithin and others. This mystery is almost as exciting to me, as the Rex Ingram one which involved his wife, Alice Terry and a whole cast of accomplices in North Africa or the man who used to post on this site, who liked to pretend he was the heir to the Doheny estate and I believe his name was Larry. Unfortunately for him, casting himself as the scion of a daughter of the family who had failed to give birth or even adopt ever, was his downfall. It was just like an old "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" episode in retribution when he was outed. Thanks to those here who have whetted my interest in the mystery of SWMNBN. Salinger could not have written a better story. Maybe Fitzgerald could have though since he did write that "Myra Meets the Family" one, I think...
  24. CaveGirl

    Ding Dong, Salinger's Dead!

    Dear Rewrite, I live in Indiana...we just got the news about Salinger croaking. LD, yes...Esme would be a good idea for a film, maybe before TCITR. And Laffite, I just love your Member Portrait of "Lazy Legs". Who painted that for the film...maybe John Decker?
  25. CaveGirl

    Ding Dong, Salinger's Dead!

    I think you are dead on, Miss W.! Natch I forgot how much Holden despised mass cultural things and he would be disgusted to be portrayed in such. Golly gee, if I could have cast it way back I would have chosen that cherub-faced Brandon DeWilde as seeing him spit and be all disgusting would have been so enjoyable. So sad that he got killed at such an early age... Thanks for your thoughts and say "hi" to The Fat Man!

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