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  1. CaveGirl

    Print the legend...

    when the legend becomes fact. This is a line often misquoted, often attributed to not who wrote it, but who directed the film it was in, and often misinterpreted. According to sources it was actually written by the writers who did the screenplay, Bellah and Goldbeck for the movie and isn't even in the book by Dorothy M. Johnson. Last night I saw a show about the man known as Brushy Bill, who contended that he was the outlaw, Billy the Kid. He had many supporters in his old age, and all were adamant about his tale of outlaw origins, based mostly on believing anything he said. It would have seemed to me, just a mere glance at his physiognomy would have proven the unreliability of that story, as ears don't lie in their shape and placement on one's cranium, nor do other features. But for Brushy Bill's supporters, this seemed unimportant. Now I would have used the methods of Milton Erickson to root out the truth, by telling Brushy Bill that if he was Billy, well, it was time to serve his time for killing someone back in his outlaw days and would have put him quickly in the slammer. But Brushy Bill, who was asking for a pardon, didn't live long enough to incarcerate him or do anything else in terms of his background claims. They have mostly been debunked now by those who have examined photos of him and compared them to Billy's facial characteristics, but the legend lives on in some minds. Movies and the industry that make them, have long been stewards of fudging the truth, not just in films but in their publicity campaigns about stars and such. So the legendary facts are often used over the truth to gild a statement, but sometimes one wonders why one should gild a lily. I've been watching "Project Blue Book" on the History Channel, and it seems that they think a story about an eminent scientist being employed to seek out the truth [as the military sees it] about invading forces from alien domains, and then defaulting to the other side, is not an interesting enough story without adding all kinds of extraneous fabrications to the story. Would you rather have just the facts, the facts with some fabrication or a mix of both in a film? Please give examples of films representing the many forms of the truth in such tales on film, of western legends and those in other areas of life.
  2. CaveGirl

    Print the legend...

    What a great list, TB! You have covered the gamut of possibilities. I own that book with the complete script of Kane, I have read the story that "Rashomon" was based on, I own the Zapruder film video copy and love Joe E. Ross on C54WAY, but even I refuse to ever watch that horrid Paul Newman film, "The Outrage" again. Fabulous and legendary examples and thanks!
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    If one wants to know if a person is a real expert in a field, like antiques, baseball statistics or even movie lore, meet up with them in a libation type lounge sometime and see what they know off the top of their head without a prewritten script. That's the real test of expertise. Just saying.
  4. CaveGirl

    Print the legend...

    Being that I am currently wearing my Jacques Derrida club sweat shirt, I can concur with a Deconstructionist view of the world and moves, Sgt. Markoff. My philosophy professor, who was a Catholic Brother, was an advocate of Heidegger and regaled me with much crucial critical thinking about such things, till it all ended when he asked me to go bar hopping with him one night. Sadly only know Jean-Luc Ponty and not Maurice!
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    Worst Movie Musical Ever Made!

    Interesting you bring up Schnitzler, Sarge since just last week I got out again my copy of his "Traumnovelle" [aka "Dream Story"] which I ordered after seeing Kubrick's "Eyes Wide Shut" thinking it would be fun to compare notes with the 1999 movie and the 1926 book. I really enjoyed the book, but then I also get a kick out of Dostoevsky and Thomas Mann, as I have always enjoyed wallowing in misery and pain and dysfunctional relationships...but only for others. Never have read anything else by Schnitzler but do you have any recommendations? Thanks in advance if you do...
  6. CaveGirl

    I Just Watched...

    Agreed about the "transitional moment" aspect of AG, MR! Highlights of this classic for me are Debralee Scott as Falfa's [Harrison Ford] girlfriend continually saying about him as she rides shotgun in his car, something like "Ain't he neat." I also love Bo Hopkins as the leader of the Pharaoh's gang which he pronounces as Fay-Rows, and their picking up Dreyfuss for sitting on their car. The exchanges between Mackensie Phillips and LeMat are also priceless and touching, when she won't tell him her address for him to dump her out of his hot rod. The day the music died motif, is well put and I'm sure Holly, the Bopper and Richie would have loved this film.
  7. CaveGirl

    I Just Watched...

    Love any film with the inimitable Dick Miller. What a great movie poster also! Thanks, Janet.
  8. CaveGirl

    June Schedule is Up! Jane Powell SOTM

    Didn't Letterman go to Ball State? I have a feeling he would not mind his alma mater being called "Ball University" being that he is such a cut-up. Personally I would rather say I went to Ball University than Ball State, which sounds like all of Indiana looks like a ball but then that's me. But you are certainly right that this is a major snafu to leave out a word in a university name, because how awful would it be to call Notre Dame, just Dame College or Wake Forest, just Wake University...agreed? And calling NYU just New University should be a crime punishable by death on the gallows I think...
  9. CaveGirl

    The Real Great Escape - 75th Anniversary

    My favorite actor in that film is Bronson! I've liked him since he was Igor in HOW. Thankfully, Jay Sebring was not doing his hairdo in that film, as he was for some of the other male stars.
  10. CaveGirl

    Stalker Movies

    Tell me about it, Sarge. There will always be men who think that they can force a woman to like them and won't accept no for an answer. I think it goes back to some maternal issue, where they either got too much or no attention from that female, so all later women they meet have to give them unending approval and agreement on all things, and are not allowed to ignore or reject them. Such a man will torture or kill his intended paramour, if she refuses to give it to him. I know these signs and always try to stay away from such stalker types. I once had a co-worker who kept asking me out and sending flowers, and when I finally said I really thought we had nothing in common, he stated quite firmly "Well I will continue sending you flowers if I want and I have the right to continue to keep asking you out also as long as I want." He would leave creepy cards on my desk and on my car windshield and it only stopped after he lost his job due to a layofff." Some men believe they have the right to pick a woman and she has no right to refuse to accommodate their lustmord tendencies. Such unwanted attention is never fun to get, believe me.
  11. CaveGirl

    Take a Walk on the Wild Side

    Now this film I have seen and totally enjoy since any film promoting a non-procreation discipline in society is great in my book. I do think it is seen best though when one turns the sound off, like when watching TWOO while playing Pink Floyd's music. I suggest that one turn off the sound to "Zardoz" and take a couple of Sandoz tablets and they will have a super wild experience, especially if they have strobe lights above their big screen to illuminate all the scenes with Sean Connery. Thanks, Darg!
  12. CaveGirl

    Take a Walk on the Wild Side

    I have never seen this but now I want to, so thanks, N&N!
  13. CaveGirl

    Take a Walk on the Wild Side

    Oh, my, my...we certainly don't want this general malaise that is overtaking you to end up like what overcame George Sanders, Sarge! His goodbye to a cruel world went something like this, or actually exactly like this: "Dear World, I am leaving because I am bored. I feel I have lived long enough. I am leaving you with your worries in this sweet cesspool. Good luck." Might I suggest an infusion of some fine Lubitsch or Sturges comedies to raise your endorphin levels as we would not want to lose such a witty and acerbic poster from our milieu. Or try a dose of some W.C. Fields fare like his short "The Dentist" to revive your spirits aided with some Guinness?
  14. CaveGirl

    Bad movies redeemed by their ending.

    Though it is actually not really a 'bad movie" as how can any Olsen Twins film be classified as such, my favorite movie redemption scene for any failings in the film is in "New York Minute" from 2004. In it we find at the ending that one of the Olsen twins has been given a college scholarship to Oxford because of her totally ethical behaviour that is mentioned saying that she "didn't just want to win, she absolutely refused to fail." How laudable is that!!! In view of the current college entrance cheating allegations, I think this ending makes the Olsen Twin movie a must see, plus it also has the distinction of possibly being the final film with both twins appearing, I think, which is also a wonderful denouement for all viewers of movies that their screen pairings have ended.
  15. CaveGirl

    Bad movies redeemed by their ending.

    Play this song by Roger Miller, when the hangman enters the schoolyard, Sarge, and please take photos!: "Dang me, dang meThey oughta take a rope and hang meHigh from the highest treeWoman, would you weep for me?"
  16. This is for those who love really worthless information about movies, that most find boring but they personally find stimulating and fun to know. Yesterday, I was watching some films on TCM with early acting roles by the Oomph Girl and noticed in the pre-film credits for "The Patient in Room 18", in the cast was the name, Vicki Lester! Now I was baffled, since I'm thinking, who is this Vicki Lester and was she the hidden girlfriend of Norman Maine or what gives? She played a nurse and I later looked her up to find that the actress had taken on the name of Vicki [sometimes billed also as Vickie] Lester, from the movie "A Star is Born". Now her career never achieved those heights but she did appear in films from 1937 to 1942. So far no alternative Norman Maine thespians have shown up in my research. If you have a similarly really useless bit of movie trivia, please submit it now.
  17. CaveGirl

    Narcissistic Blowhards

    I will watch anything with Donald Pleasance in it. For me, he made the movie "Halloween" work, plus is always amazing in any film or tv show. There is a fine write-up about him in that TTZ Companion book, about his being hired for the episode, "The Changing of the Guard" where he plays a kindly professor. The episode reminds me a bit of the film "The Browning Version" without all the wifely adultery issues and such, but it has a similar melancholy tone. Thanks, Bogie!
  18. CaveGirl

    Narcissistic Blowhards

    Why...I never thought Pongy Ponce acted "puffed-up" in his role on "Hawaiian Eye" and I'm sure Connie Stevens never thought so either, Sarge. Oh, wait...that was Poncie Ponce, wasn't it? Never mind...
  19. CaveGirl

    Narcissistic Blowhards

    Oh, I adore Robert Morley! I still remember seeing him in I think some BBC prank, in which he espoused the belief that balls were the bane of society and the movement was called "Ban the Ball" and cameras would follow Morley all around playgrounds in Britain and he would walk up to small children playing games with varied types of sporting balls, and would put his hands out, point to the ball and ask them quite solemnly to "Surrender the ball!" The children's incredulous expressions as they sadly and wistfully handed over their beloved balls was so entertaining. Thanks, Sarge!
  20. No, this is not about your meeting up with Lou Reed at a film fest. Name a movie that took you to places beyond your wildest dreams, depending on what the criteria is that you use for defining the word "wild". Remember, it does not have to be triple X-rated but it's okay if it is. For some viewers, "The Wizard of Oz" could qualify, or "Fritz the Cat", or "Fantasia" or "In the Realm of the Senses" or even "The Angry Red Planet". I'll start with Walerian Borwczyk's "The Beast" from 1975. Next?
  21. CaveGirl

    "Can I Play That?"

    This past Saturday, March 09, 2019, "Saturday Night Live" had a very amusing AND insightful sketch called "Can I Play That?" which was about a game show where thespian contestants had to answer questions, relating to who is an appropriate choice for a role. The host stated at the beginning, that he would describe a role in an upcoming movie, and then a contestant would have to answer whether they would be an acceptable choice. I think the first question used as an example to describe the game was "Would Will Smith be an appropriate choice to play the Williams sisters in an upcoming movie?". Though exceedingly funny to watch as the three contestants debated the merits of so many actors being chosen for roles, I think the skit brought up some real challenges to the acting profession, movies also and society in general. If you did not see the skit, I think you can find it by searching NBC's website for Saturday Night Live, March 09,2019 videos listed under the title, "Can I Play That" and then lend your comments if you have any. If you did see the skit, what were your thoughts on the premise of the issue. Can only leprechauns play leprechauns [just kidding for the HDSOC] can only Native Americans play Native Americans and after seeing Buddy Hackett play one I think I must agree, and so on...
  22. CaveGirl

    Actor Jan-Michael Vincent (1945-2019)

    Only the facts, Vautrin...please!
  23. CaveGirl

    Stalker Movies

    Yes, we all know he has a most lovely wife. But even if Dargo were single I know he would never be interested in me, being that I look a lot like Una O'Connor and am not really that appealing to the male gender Thanks though, Michael for warning me just in case.
  24. CaveGirl

    Stalker Movies

    Basically, Markoff I agree with your sentiments. But I can tell you for sure, no amount of largesse would make me even date some of the men one sees around with good looking women as mates. Larry King, for example, I would not even accept a freebie coffee drink from and I also wouldn't even want to be in nearby breathing space of certain men who have achieved high political offices, nor do I find them attractive due to their fame, if attractive only means in their wallet. There will always be those females, who can be had for the price of an emerald ring, but some would prefer to buy their own rings and be with an appealing male, even if he is living like Thoreau. Of course, it helps if he is amusing and has a good personality and brain also.
  25. CaveGirl

    "Can I Play That?"

    Good point and sound position. Waiting to see if there is another side with strong beliefs on this topic. Thanks!

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