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  1. Can't believe there are so many i haven't seen................looking forward to seeing this one.
  2. have it written down, thanks will look for it.
  3. Looking forward to 2pm today. Thank you all on the message boards for all the information and insights to these great films. I learned a great deal from the discussions and mostly the take away was that we all share the love of this art form, and to know that you are not the only crazy that love these films makes it truly special. I was wondering if you(all message board contributors) could name one movie that wasn't shown during this summer that you feel is one that was missed, so that i could watch them or look for them. I noticed that pickup on south street, wasn't shown but mentioned, so that one would be a great one to add, but i will add "life at stake" a b movie that i liked. Many thanks again to all.............................
  4. How current is this today? We see the authorities, caught on camera, beat/kill/shoot what looks like innocent people. Just as this scene shows the sheer futile attempt to get a confession from someone not guilty, we see how life in the noir world or postwar world a life filled with injustice and cruelty. The analogy of Nazi state and the music and Hitler were all of course dead on. We are always or should be always aware of state/authority abuse and fight to control the excessive that could lead to repeat of history and or fight the complacency that can happen when, we hear but do nothing, we see but look the other way. Noir can teach us how not to be and how we learned how to be, not only reflective but pushed into action. Just as the cards hit the table hard, but nothing is done, we can see how wrong it is and now stand for a better ending. Everything is relative to a open mind.
  5. Raymond Burr how could you???? One of those actors that always played the heavy early in his career. His eyes and voice are made for the part/s, his look was a noir look. I think he even had a shadow under his eyes as well, no lighting needed. Love that he went on to other roles and we all had a chance to see him in other lighting.............How many films shown this summer of darkness had Burr in them? King of the b movies and a great actor, his size and look commanded the screen. But for me, it was his voice that triggered anger somehow. Never seeing him as a tough guy, but heavy in that he went awry somehow and couldn't deal with society. Even in this movie, he is the bad guy, but it is more implied by what could happen instead of his actual actions, but he is the one that thinks up the bad stuff, and his lines that are the most impacting. Just like the lighting and the shadows, this actor walks in the scene and you know you are seeing the hard core noir that you expect, but also something more, whether you want to or not.
  6. One of my favorites film noir, this classic brings richness both in characters and settings. Isolation, desperation, and toughness that mirrors earlier noir. Dix will forever live in my memory, a viable and long lasting figure that cements even bad guys are not all bad. Although a good name to describe the scenery/action, I never liked the name of this movie. Too late to find out one now, but the name of this movie could have been so many more interesting ones. Also thought that this cast of supporting actors are one of the best in noir. Are there better?????? Wow, what a cast, MGM did have alot of stars........................ No other movie, has made me feel like i was in on it, part of the gang, than this one. Enjoyed the ride and the feel of pure guilty pleasure of suffering with the cast. So many dead ends, so many dreams that died, one of the best noir's todate.
  7. Music brings a surreal feel to any movie. It makes the scene change time and place for the audience. We cannot just hear words for their meaning and know what is going on,or see, we must hear the tones and notes in the background to be informed. The total effect is to move us in many ways, the movie is emotional and more than a visual. It contains the essence of subversive storytelling that is what Noir films brings with each tale. I believe this is why jazz is associated so much with Noir. It is not just what a lyric is, as most scores are, but just notes for us to find out the meaning, just like Noir visuals of lighting and shadows, don't tell the whole story the jazz music is up to the audience to feel the effect, not lyrics to define the notes. Good jazz is to music what Noir is to film. Together they are the best of both worlds. "THE TALENTED MR RIPLEY" just one example of this.
  8. That blackwater was a telling sign of things to come, as he opens the door and you see his facial reaction, you know that he is not expecting what he finds and runs of course, making noir as he goes. The daytime paranoia is especially moving and trains that flashback makes you want more. I cannot watch Robert Ryan without thinking postwar, maybe due to his other movies............ The outside scene of him running for the train gives that fifties feel as well, not sure why.
  9. When the verbal becomes shorten, when the references are typical, when you get the feeling you been there before, yes it is parody. But not in the burlesqued sort of way. We are not seeing the degrading of the genre, as suggested but the often followed trick of duplication, that many films use. I haven't seen this one, so looking forward to it. Trench coats, trains, cigars, rushing somewhere, atypical women often creating interest, chasing, catching etc. etc. Duplication, but all so much more interesting than the no plot, no characters movies of today. PS thanks for bringing so many films that aren't often shown, and why not??? I have a poor copy(public domain) of life at stake, very good noir but never seen before on tv..........that i know of, and why not????????????? Can we all cry for more noir to be shown even after this course...............
  10. Timing in this movie starts with the narrative running, and then the planning of the heist. The music gives beat to the each stroke of the clock in the beginning scenes of the planning of the heist. We feel like we are "in" it from the start. The planning is verified many times as noted in the checklist we see. The substance of noir, even the best planning can go wrong..... The style the clock over the bank, when the guards comes out with the money, shows us a tick by tick countdown of life/money or both running out, every telling visual. We can always root for a heist, we Noir ee's. We can see life is just not equal in someway and hope that it get's balanced somehow. Our alter ego, is right there with them, planning clocking and trying to get the balance back in our lives. But, as the darkness of the movie house surrounds us, we can live our daydreams and nightdreams without ever being caught, or have we just been??
  11. Seeing the TV set in the opening of the clip allows you to flashback to that time. I was not drawn in by watching the match, or the actor's response but by the tv as the medium for the visual. A great formalism delivery, but more importantly a contrast of how small the screen of tv was. The studios wouldn't try this today..........lol. It always amazed me how utterly bitter people were in their marriages. This time frame makes for a perfect setup to capture this fifties feel. It seems the norm for a wife not to care about her husband and for him to only care about where she got a watch. It wasn't what was on TV at the time for sure, all happy families and kids.............remember? Of course the content of the scene makes your Noir ears turn up. You hear trouble coming and fast. We are always looking for special lighting etc, but this one clip, the contrast between the tv and the movie iswhat lasts for me. The pullback effect, was great on the tv. I was totally not into the movie by the fight scene until the effect.
  12. The scene best and most interesting thread in this scene, is the dominance that Heflin has over Douglas. Already one of my favorites, i can' t separate that aspect from this discussion. But to look at Barbara's control over Douglas is different. She steals the scene, and you forget that men's relationship is complex, and focus on the more sexual content. Santa Rosa of course, but outside the list, and that's why Hitch is one of the best. Postman always rings twice, the Killers, Out of the past. Just a note, pre any info to the contrary, i truly believe that the movie industry tried to get the midwest/,,middle of the country more interesting in the later products and learned that the cities were great in the beginning of films but later mid american wanted to see more of itself, more of their own lives and not one of the cities. As a city girl born and raised, i am biased to the city life and quickness we see in these type of films. The scenery to be is the best type of noir, rain coasted cobblestone street, or the fog of San Fran or just simply a streetlight in the night. But as we can see the other movies give us great Noir, but they lack background of grime and crime that fits. Out of the past, is shot great, and i believe that mexico is brought in for favor as well. They needed that exotic location to fill the mountain air of this noir.
  13. Going to take this time to thank all people responsible for saving this film. These type films are very important, as b movies, they shown us so much more than just a topic or genre trend, and so necessary to live on for the future. As we move forward, we can see that the magic of films of this time is more than just the lighting scenery and acting. They show us how we were and how we developed over time. A history caught by lens that can be shown in classrooms of the future to teach the future. Hopefully, we will see these b movies are as important, and in some cases more important, than the high production a movies, that will always be saved. These movies are the hidden jewels of America and should remain treated as historical buildings that are preserved and used by future generations and in the evolving media content driven future, we could use the retro flashbacks for so much and interesting ways. Keep up the good work, thank you for seeing the future for all of us.
  14. Hitch is a very special director not special case. His Shadow of a Doubt, is by far best of his film noir. One of his personal favorites, Shadow of a Doubt, is all noir, even the ending(after you think about it). Strangers on a Train, is visually thrilling and outside the happy ending leaves you just shy of lighting effects, but remains one of our best films. Patricia Highsmith's the talented mr ripley is also very neo noir. The locations shots/jazz/imagery/subjects just better than this one. Hitch's use of color and scores and advancements in film, have redefined genre's and film altogether. I believe his best work is in color and the use of it, but the master of suspense, is by no means a special case to be considered, he is one of the best at all attempts, his happy endings are not as perverse as some but delivers lasting taste of sickness that stays in our diets today. Uncle Charlie death is just as perverse as any great noir's, although you think it's a happy ending, nobody knows who he really was...............great noir great film great director
  15. What a interesting thought about the sound effect, i just found it very campy. But, i believe the music later in the film was meant to do just that...............

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