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  1. And may I add my thanks to Dr. Ament and her colleagues at Ball State, and TCM, for offering this fabulous course. It was fun and informative, and a good chance to see a lot of movies... some of them in a different way. And thanks to all of you who took part in these discussions and replied to my comments. I never did get around to posting a comment of the cult classic 'Rocky Horror Picture Show'. Real excited about it, though, as I just got a ticket to see the stage show at the Stratford Festival in Ontario this fall... and just got one to see 'Come From Away' in Toronto in two weeks. It's a hot ticket and I've heard great things about it. So it's gonna be a great summer of musicals! Best wishes to you all! David
  2. Foley art, and how it's applied to the making of musicals... tap in particular. I'd never heard of it before this course.
  3. For those of us without a DVR it has been sometimes frustrating, especially when movies featured in the lectures are shown at odd hours. But TCM has to make programming choices. Overall, it's been a great course!
  4. Jakeem, that Carpool Karaoke was fabulous! Wish I looked that good now... let alone when I'm 76!
  5. Beatlemania in '64... there was never anything like it in North America! Not Elvis... not Michael Jackson... nobody's ever come close. In the first half half of '64 the Beatles topped the charts for months, with one hit after another: She Loves You, I Wanna Hold Your Hand, All My Lovin'... and they'd stay at the top for weeks. Then there was all the screaming and hysteria of the young girls at the concerts... mania was the only word for it. Who finally knocked The Beatles off the top of the charts in your area? Where I lived, in Toronto, I'm pretty sure it was The Dave Clark Five, and I think the song was Glad All Over... or maybe it was Bits and Pieces. Week after week we were waiting to see when, if ever, it would happen. What a year... the start of the British Invasion!
  6. Enjoyed the Monday discussion on 'A Hard Day's Night', as I was interested in listening to informed opinions on the movie. I've always thought of the Elvis and Beatles movies as being very flimsy musicals, almost trashy, made on the cheap to entertain teeny boppers and sell records. Perhaps 'A Hard Day's Night' did something to promote a positive image of the Beatles with the older generation, who saw them as being wild and radical. Regarding the sixties as being changing times, I don't recall the early sixties, when the Beatles were starting out and 'A Hard Day's Night' was made, as really being a part of them. Fifties values still ruled. That's why The Beatles relatively clean cut look still seemed so outrageous at the time. They were still singling light fluff rock songs like 'She Loves You' and 'I Wanna Hold Your Hand'. Pretty tame stuff. It wasn't until the late sixties that things really started to change: hair got long, skirts got short, protest against the Vietnam war and 'the establishment' took off... and then hippies and flower power. The Beatles had a lot to do with those changing times. Their music, which had always been trend-setting, became more intellectual and radical, helping change attitudes. But their much shaggier look on the covers of 'Let It Be' and 'Abbey Road' barely caused a ripple.
  7. Rodgers and Hammerstein musicals are all much alike... primary love story, secondary love story, usually some sort of ballet or dream sequence, drama that often reflects on social issues. Songwriters often seem to work to a pattern, especially when it works. Probably makes it easier to know where you're going with it, and that the audience is going to like it. Andrew Lloyd Webber did occasionally... writing musicals like 'Joseph', 'Cats' and 'Starlight Express' to a wide variety of different styles of songs: rock, country, jazz, opera and so on. But then he did some really innovative things too... 'Evita' and 'Phantom of the Opera', as well as 'Cats' and 'Starlight Express' (a musical about trains done by performers on roller skates, on tracks that ran all around the theatre. It was bizarre... looked like roller derby!) Lloyd Webber was a genius.
  8. Anyone wanting a condensed but entertaining look at musicals over the years might like to check out 'That's Entertainment'... made in 3 parts. It's available from TCM in a DVD set, and includes 'That's Dancing'. If you're mad about musicals, it's very entertaining.
  9. Same here re the retake. Glitch of the week. Thankfully did okay the first time.
  10. Thanks, everyone for your comments. I was really just trying to stimulate discussion by stirring the pot a bit and seeing how people would respond. I agree with people who say we need to look at the various social issues of these films through the values of the times, and accept them as they were made. That said, I was still surprised that there wasn't more reaction to the sexist behavior of the brothers, especially after all the discussion we had on Disney's 'Song of the South'. As BartG mentioned, Milly dealt with it all by showing herself to be a strong person, taking charge of the house and teaching the brothers how to behave and treat others, women in particular. And the story was silly enough that you really couldn't take it too seriously. Finally, I'd like to comment on my own question and suggest a reason why the sex issue hasn't generated as much discussion and anger as the race issue has. Despite sexism (real or perceived), men and women still live together, love each other and generally get along pretty well. It's different with race issues, and there are a lot of enduring attitudes that haven't completely changed. And so the continued anger and resentment of blacks is understandable. And with that I'll shut up. Have a great weekend!
  11. The race issue in musicals has been one of the focuses of this course, and it's led to considerable outrage being expressed by students on just about every aspect of race and racism in musicals. Fair enough. While sex roles and stereotyping have also been a focus of this course, I really don't perceive the same sort of anger being expressed over sexism. People seem to just accept it for what it is, or was in the particular era. While the story of 'Seven Brides for Seven Brothers' is one you could view as being silly yet harmless fun, by today's sensitive standards it's probably one that should be condemned as highly sexist. C'mon, people... kidnapping women and forcibly confining them seen as harmless fun? And Adam's treatment of his new bride, putting her to work like a slave the moment he got her home. Where's the outrage from women in this course?
  12. Hepburn would be more convincing than Kelly in pretty much anything... though Grace would win me in a heartbeat. 'High Society' was just an excuse to put a few musical numbers together in a light fluff musical, and strut out a few big stars.
  13. After 3 weeks I'm just about ready to OD on musicals, but must say I enjoyed 'Pal Joey'... seeing it for the first time. Not just show tunes, but some great songs (Lady is a Tramp... take that, Rita!), and a good story. What a choice for Frank to have to make, between Rita Hayworth and Kim Novak, but I can't imagine anyone being disappointed in who he finally ended up with. One more first-time show to see tonight - 'Seven Brides for Seven Brothers' - then I'll have take a break for the weekend.
  14. Today's notes touched on make-up artist Dorothy Ponedel, and the work she did on Judy Garland. Judy generally looked lovely in films, and Dorothy must have done a great job, but I want to mention one in which I thought her make-up was horrible... one in which Ponedel apparently was not the make-up artist. The movie was 'A Star is Born', a fabulous picture that I watched for the second time a couple of nights ago. The major makeup flaw, one that is quite common and which I absolutely detest, is applying lipstick beyond the lip line. Now I realize that bright red lipstick was popular back in those days, and seen as very glamorous, but when it's applied well beyond the lip line, as it was below Judy's lower lip, it can make a woman look like she has a clown's mouth. Ugggh! I realize Judy had quite full lips, so perhaps it was just the proportion... too heavy on the lower lip. She looked a lot better in 'Meet Me in St. Louis'.
  15. Such a cutie! Such a sweetie! So talented! 'Singin' in the Rain' has to be her best performance. My favorite, anyway. Good mornin'!

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