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    Is sex scenes and nudity necessary in movies?

    To reply to another poster, that's why today many men and women don't respect the body because women don't respect it themselves. The other night as I was flipping through channels, on the Howard Stern show, there was a woman playing a game, she was nude and popping balloons with her naked bottom, that's real art. In the more sophisticated years, there were places to go to see excessive sex and nudity, now they throw it in everyone's faces. Also, why not give porn stars the same fame and Academy awards they give so-called real movie stars? This isn't the 1900's when nudity was considered art.
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    Is sex scenes and nudity necessary in movies?

    I love the pre-code era movies. They were sexy but not filthy. They could be sexy with clothes on, actually the clothes made them sexier. Like I said if nudity is allright than sell porn movies in the front and not hide them, show them on public television, write Jerry Springer show and tell them they don't have to hide women and men's body parts who show them because it's art. Believe me 99% of people isn't thinking art when they see a naked body. Today's society civilized? I don't think so. You got young kids thinking about sex and nudity because we say it's okay and society has accepted it. It use to be only for adults now it's for all. Yes, it's been said for years the end is near but if you ever picked up a bible and read Revelations you'd see everything that's happen now, all this calamity and more was told before it happened. God, made the human body, right, but he also put clothes on us when we became imperfect because he knew what we'll think and do. Our bodies suppose to be something private, if it's true it's God's temple wouldn't you treat it with respect? But we civilized generation only want God in our life when something bad happens, or sick or dying. I'm not trying to argue or anything but I know this generation, because I'm apart of it and they ain't thinking art, maybe your civilized generation do, but I doubt it. This is something Myrna Loy said I found interesting: [speaking in the late 60s] "I admire some of the people on the screen today, but most of them look like everybody else. In our days we had individuality. Pictures were more sophisticated. All this nudity is too excessive and it is getting very boring. It will be a shame if it upsets people so much that it brings on the need for censorship. I hate censorship. In the cinema there's no mystery. No privacy. And no sex either. Most of the sex I've seen on the screen looks like an expression of hostility towards sex."
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    Is sex scenes and nudity necessary in movies?

    It's filth, plain and simple. Anything they can do with their clothes off they can do with it on but the movies today especially have no decency and do cover up weak stories and bad acting with nudity and sex scenes. Is Mae West, Rita Hayworth, Lana, Hedy, Ava, Garbo less sexy because they didn't do nude or sex scenes? Of course not. If God wanted us to be nude he wouldn't of put clothes on Adam and Eve. The world is going down hill anyway, this is the sign of the last days so I'm not surprised by what humans are doing, the bible prophecies what these days would be like before it got here. I just feel bad for the youth who feel they got to do nude/sex scenes to make it big and it's true. Hollywood hasn't much to do with one who isn't willing. If an actress doesn't want to do it, fine, but it's not like that. Believe me, most people aren't looking at the art when a woman is nude and doing sex scenes.
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    Greta Garbo

    I guess that's what is hard for some to understand. Most movie stars relish fame but Garbo didn't seem to care for it. She wanted to live like any other ordinary human being, she wanted privacy, to walk the streets without being noticed, which was hard for ones to believe, so many believed she made that "I want to be alone" image up to spark more intrigue. I want to be alone but I'm not interesting because I'm not a movie star.
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    Hollywood lost it's magic especially with actresses!

    I guess what I'm trying to say is, it's just a different time era. The hair, clothes contributed to their beauty and just keeping something to the imagination but still sexy without baring all. I like the book they had faces than, I always use that title, because they did. I guess people don't change but clothes, hair styles and people's way of doing things change and that's the biggest differences. I never did find Dorothy Dandridge that beautiful, she's no different looking than most good looking black women but beautiful, no, not to me, she wasn't rare in her looks. Since I know of many black actresses outside of Hollywood and in it, I've seen many who are more or just as equal but because you only know of Dorothy and Lena, you say just them, because that's all you know and the only ones. Pat Rainey, Sally Blair, Dorothy Van Engle, Francine Everett and Sheila Guyse were beautiful women who just were rare beautous. This site features many women you never heard about who were beauties as well. http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/ninamaemckinney/LadiesofHarlem.html
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    Greta Garbo

    I think the fascination with her was she was different from the American actresses. Back than it was about image and illusion and faces. Garbo's voice, name, look, mystery, allure, secret life all played a part besides her acting that made her a superstar and legend. I haven't seen many of her movies either but I can see why she was popular than, put yourself in that era back than, she was something new to the American people because of all the traits mentioned above. Finding out about Garbo was intriguing and still is because people are still trying to figure her out, and she's been dead for so long. Of course, maybe Garbo is over exaggerated but most are to make them more interesting just go for the illusion, its more fun then figuring her out.
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    Hollywood lost it's magic especially with actresses!

    I'm sorry not in my opinion, these actresses today may be pretty having the best make up artist but standing up against Rita Hayworth, Anita Page, Hedy Lamarr, Linda Darnell, Myrna Loy, Gene Tierney, Dolores del Rio, Angelia Jolie and Julia Roberts and Meryl Streep wouldn't pass in my book.
  8. I would like to know everyone's opinion here. You see, I'm not amused and easily bored with today's actors and especially the actresses. I find myself envious and amused by the classic era actresses, who've lived and died before I was even born but still I envy them. The women in movies today don't have the beauty of the 1930's and 1940's actresses. All the girls had their own beauty, look, type in those days. Now and days it's like most of the actresses resemble each other, no individuality, not much to envy, especially when you see them without makeup. I guess today's actresses don't live up to the illusion of what a movie star suppose to be like stars than in the golden days. Plus, the beauty was natural without all the makeup and surgery. I wonder was it something in the water back than because we need some of it now. Not to say the actresses today aren't attractive but you get bored with them after a while unlike the golden era actresses. Actresses today lack charm, allure, mystery and full fledge femininity from head to toe. Actresses today are too bold, in your face, I guess too much like us ordinary humans. In the golden era they wanted to make us believe and did that movie stars were better than us and was perfect. You don't see women who look like or have the image of Clara Bow, Jean Harlow, Frances Farmer, Dorothy Lamour, Myrna Loy, Dolores del Rio, Joan Blondell, Ruby Keeler, Claire Luce, Hedy Lamarr, Garbo, Marlene Dietrich, Kathryn Grayson, Lana Turner, Veronica Lake, Ann Sheridan, Gene Tierney, Linda Darnell, Lena Horne, Nina Mae McKinney, Dorothy Van Engle, Francine Everett and I could go on. When you think about it, it really wasn't that long ago, but much has changed and I can't believe that they didn't at least keep some of that golden era MAGIC. I don't think the actresses today could ever compare to our golden era stars and don't let me start on the males, they lack that rugged but romantic image.
  9. Nudity? How do you all feel about nudity in movies? I simply hate it. Though some feel it's apart of acting and art. When I say things like movie stars in the 1930's and 1940's didn't have to do that to show their a real actress and sexy, young ones say, well they were uptight back then and too innocent. That shows young ones today don't know good movies. It wasn't so innocent back than. But they didn't have to bare all to be sexy. The sexual innuendos were obvious, a look, a movement, anything. That's one of the things I love about classic movies you get the point without it being blatant and that's what make it classic. Sex without the actual doing or saying of it. I forget the title of the movie that Greta Garbo was in with John Gilbert but the camera was close on her while she was reminiscing about the sex her and he had, now that's classic, one of the best scenes in movie history. Think of what actors would do with that today. I basically feel nudity isn't necessary but today's movies they use it often to keep movies from being boring because most the times the actors and actresses, don't have that "oomph." Could you picture Joan, Bette, Marlene, Mae West naked, doing a sex scene? (I know some would but really would it make them less or more of an actress) Mae West oozed of sex but remained covered the whole time. Something about the clothes than that made women even more sexier. Could you picture Jeanette MacDonald and Nelson Eddy doing a sex scene? They made love through their music. I'm far from a prude but I feel like if a person wants to see and do porn, there's an adult industry. Hollywood only suppose to go so far. Some of the actors and actresses minus well go ahead and have real sex on the screen, it looks like it half the time. You minus well put the adult movies with the Hollywood movies and not hide them in the back of video stores. Classic movies had a touch of class, a touch of sex, a touch of mystery, a touch of sin, a touch of beauty.
  10. Catherine Zeta Jones would do a whole lot better playing Hedy Lamarr. I can't picture Jones a blonde or as Lana. I always saw Hedy Lamarr in her. She wants to play Lana because she's a legend but it could be a mistake.
  11. Had to get a new name to sign in. Ayeorchirds, its so many of these black cinema films available, no their not big budget films, don't look for extravagance but their worth watching, it you can look pass the flaws you will see some great beauty and good acting by Francine Everett, Sheila Guyse, Dorothy Van Engle, Edna Mae Harris, Mae Turner - who I call the black Claire Trevor, Monte Hawley, Ralph Cooper, Laurence Criner, Henri Wessell, Reginald Fenderson, Edward Brandon, you will see the potential there. You will blacks playing parts, not black but like whites, playing people from all walks of life, even Shakespeare. If you go to www.acinemaapart.com you will see some cheap good movies to buy because you won't see these regularly on tv. I suggest all of Micheaux films, Spencer Williams. Ralph Cooper opened the first black studio out in Hollywood called Million Dollar production and it put out some of the best movies, even the black press applauded them, their films were the first to be played not only in black theaters but on the "white time" as they use to call it, they had the best actors and actresses and some good camera techniques in Busby Berkeley fashion. I found even though we don't know now, these people were movie stars to the black community and given the same publicity in the black newspapers, they had posters, lobby cards and such. I wish more recognition would be given to them as Lena Horne and Dorothy Dandridge but its hard when we don't really know these people or what happen. But researching them in the old magazines and newspapers were enriching and seeing their importance. I just got from ebay by searching "all black cast" a lot of black movies, particuarly some shorts which feature Evelyn Preer, Paul Robeson called the best actress of the race and she was to. She did a lot of work in early Hollywood, she use to do a lot of singing which a lot of the white actresses would lip sync to but we don't know how many and for who. She died in 1933. There were black acting troupes. Orson Welles directed Macbeth with a black cast and it received great reviews. I would like more light put on the blacks who played maids such as Mildred Washington and Theresa Harris who really showed their talent, especially in the pre code era where Blacks were given more of a chance and were very pretty. I'll never forget Mildred and Claudette Colbert together in Torch Singer and Ginger Rogers and Theresa in Professional Sweetheart and Nina Mae McKinney with Dorothy Mackaill in Safe In Hell. It wasn't just maids catering and seen and unheard, they really had great chemistry together. I'm surprised Nina Mae don't get much honor being the first black and doing more movies than any other actress of that era and being the first in U.S. and European magazines and being so talented and beautiful. I was reading how Clara Bow and her had a so-called affair and some arguement in the newspapers. Donald Bogle's books sometimes get me upset because he seems to relate everything to race and color than just applauding these people's work and telling about them. Also, most of these black films were produced and directed by white men. Moon Over Harlem is considered the best of Black Cinema by Edgar Ulmer. I suggest these titles to you, Moon Over Harlem, Paradise In Harlem, Swing, Blood of Jesus, Miracle In Harlem, Mystery In Swing, The Exile, Ten Minutes to Live, Girl in Room 20, Gang Smashers, The Duke Is Tops, Juke Joint. Green Pastures is a great movie made in Hollywood, it was on the stage successful for many years and brought the same cast to Hollywood. It is wonderful. Here is a website on unsung black talents and beauties of the golden era http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/ninamaemckinney/

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