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  1. 1. This was a tender moment needing a "tender" tone of the song. Having belted out the song would have taken the "tenderness" of the moment. 2. One can easily tell how both Nicky & Fanny like each other. As she sings, he watches her. 3. What I see is Fanny wearing her heart on her sleeve, letting Nicky know what her feelings are. The camera gently moves with Streisand throughout the majority of the song but it does glance back at Sharif to show that he too is interested in her.
  2. 1. Similarity between "Gaslight" & "My Fair Lady" is that in both movies you have the male leads dominate their female counterparts. Also both movies are set in turn of the century London (19th to 20th century). 2. I think the transition happens when Eliza, who is the center of attention at the ball, goes back to Higgins' home where she retreats from being the center of attention to fading into the background. Lighting is on her because she shows her emotion as being sad & angry that Higgins, whom she has feelings for, is as cold & distant as he's always been with her. He sees his victory in winning a bet & that's the end of it all. She wants to know what's to become of her. 3. Again, Cukor connects Eliza filled with emotion & Higgins, having won the bet & is as cold & distant & wanting to move on, showing relatively no concern for Eliza. She's angered, throwing his slippers at him, trying to claw at him & he continues to be cold. She realizes he sees her as a thing & feels that he cares for nothing but his bet. What Higgins will eventually realize is that he needs her as she needs him but her pride has her walk out on him.
  3. 1. What I notice is that the alpha male steps aside & becomes a beta male to the leading lady in many cases. In the case of "Victor/Victoria" in which he plays an openly gay man which was not heard of in the previous decades. 2. Preston captivates audiences in both movies. He convinces the town in "The Music Man" that the kids are in trouble & could become delinquents & he was there to save the day. In "Victor/Victoria" as an openly gay man, he extends that openness to the song he sings & by extension the rude comments he makes to the 3 persons who hide behind their own facade & brings their true nature to the forefront. 3. The few movies I've seen with Preston, I've always found him to be a charming character. Somehow I feel he put a lot of himself into the characters he portrayed. Besides "The Music Man" & "Victor/Victoria", I've seen him in the 1970s version of "Mame" with Lucille Ball & "The Last Starfighter" where he plays a charming alien named "Centauri" who is out recruiting pilots for the "Star League" (galaxy fighter pilots) by devising tests in the form of video games for the planet Earth & other planets in the system.
  4. 1. The scene looks backwards in that you have kids auditioning in their cute outfits & doing their cute routines when in reality this is taking the vaudeville era into the brash & less-childlike move into burlesque. In other words, it takes the innocence & moves into an age of bawdy strippers/performers & more of a sexual content as opposed to the family acts of vaudeville. 2. Mama Rose barges in during the song & starts issuing orders to the orchestra & lighting people. She's also barking orders are her daughters as to how to do their performance & disrupting the entire number. Mama Rose lives vicariously through her daughters & teaches them how to do their act(s) as if she were doing them herself. 3. The lyrics have a double entendre. Although the song is performed by kids & Louise (Natalie Wood's character) in the initial song does hand tricks, as she becomes Gypsy Rose Lee those "tricks" she mentions in her signature song as a stripper have a more sexual tone to entice her male audiences. As far as the staging of the song, the camera pans out instead of giving June a close-up, you can hardly hear her singing over the bickering between Mama Rose, the theater owner who insists on signing another act (girl in balloon costume) & Uncle Jocko who just quit, not liking to hold auditions when the owner already has his eyes on balloon girl. It's completely disruptive.
  5. I've never been that big of an Elvis fan but "Jailhouse Rock" has got to be one of the worst movies I have ever seen. I understand why it was chosen...the change in the music of the 1950s & he was a huge musical star. OMG... this movie was bad! I suppose his movies got better with time & color but not by much. His popularity soared with his record sales but he really lacked in the acting department & the script was weak at best.
  6. In all honesty, the stylized scene of the ballet at the end is a fantasy & should be different than the rest of the film that is much more subdued. The scenes of Paris may not have been real on location but were real enough to maintain a balance between reality & fantasy. Kelly's "Jerry" is not unlikeable. He's well liked where he lives & where he paints. Having said that, he also has no tolerance for any form of criticism, positive or negative. He makes that quite clear to both the 3rd year student who was going to discuss (really criticize) his work & the other, more sophisticated "Milo" character wanted to look at his work without the criticism. In fact, she offered to buy 2 of he paintings. That put Jerry in a better frame of mind but a tad confused or even shock in that he had never sold a painting before & here was someone who came to look but bought instead of criticizing the work. Milo, being a more sophisticated & savvy character, was onto Jerry's demeanor & knew how to deal with him. I do believe he was more accepting of her because of that sophistication (& money, something he didn't have).
  7. The pre-dance movement is more of O'Connor playing the funny guy behind the professor while Kelly feeds off of what O'Connor is doing behind the elocution teacher. As the song & dance start & progress both men seem to mirror each other, dragging the poor milquetoast teacher along with them as if he were only a prop in the beginning & middle of the dance. They eventually let go of him & continue the dance, mirroring each other until the finish. As we look at the entire number & the elocution teacher, in the beginning he is the teacher. It eventually gets turned on him by first O'Connor & then Kelly. They become the teacher, schooling the straight guy how they really feel about these lessons. It's like 2 class clowns bored with the class & their shenanigans takes over that part of the class & the teacher losing control. As far as all three men, we have a wannabe-Alpha male in the teacher aka straight man who loses his status once the fin begins. O'Connor initiates the fun probably like most class clowns (or beta-male buddy) he's bored just being there while Kelly is going thru the elocution exercises. Kelly catches on & starts making fun of the lesson he's getting & the two start to dance around & often using the teacher as a prop for their fun. The teacher is forced to relinquish his role as teacher & gets schooled by Kelly & O'Connor in the art of dancing & elocution. I see both alpha male & beta male (buddy) as having equally strong characters in this scene whole the straight while they teach their version of the lesson to the teacher.
  8. CherylPH

    Cyd Charisse!

    I love Cyd Charisse! I'm just curious as to which male lead she preferred dancing with in her movie career. I know the men loved dancing with her but I'm curious as to who she preferred dancing with. I know that one issue she must have had was her height. She was taller than most.
  9. The character Calamity Jane is not quite what many of the female characters portrayed in the musicals of the 1950s. Having said that, Day portrayed this character was also being comfortable in her own skin albeit different from the rest of the females. She's one of the guys where most characters of that decade were more like the girl next door, pretty & feminine. Doris Day starts out as a crooner in her early movies & builds her persona as an actress as she progresses through her career. She acts, sings, dances & truly reflects that persona of "the girl next door" (unlike her portrayal of Calamity Jane.) My 2 personal favorite movies of hers are "The Glass Bottom Boat" & "Please Don't Eat the Daisies." I like her other musicals as well. I'm not too keen on her as a dramatic actress. I like the perky, bright & sunny persona of Day & it adds to the character of Calamity Jane. A tomboy can have her feminine moments & still be true to her character.
  10. Although there was a bias to promote mostly MGM musicals, at the beginning of the course it's mentioned there were 5 major studios that produced musicals. As I said earlier, there is room for a Part Deux, Part Trois & even Part Quatre. You had musicals coming out of MGM, Paramount, RKO, 20th Century Fox & Warner Brothers. There were so many musicals coming out of each studio, a course can be written on each of the studios. I suppose MGM was mostly used in this course because of their budgetary "grand productions." They boasted having most of Hollywood's stars & would often loan their actors out for other films. They had the greatest sound stages, lots & a plethora of the best "behind-the-scenes" talent (directors, choreographers, editors, cinematographers, all sorts of technicians, scene builders & designers of everything else). I'm assuming the other studios had enough talent to stay afloat during the golden age of Hollywood or we would only have movies from MGM. I'm having a ball with this course & will be greatly saddened once it's over. I hope there will be more later on but not during the school year or I won't be able to stay up all day & night watching musicals...LOL.
  11. They work well as a group without a leader. They have a common goal & working together will produce a hit of a show. As far as the costuming, they're all dressed in business casual in subdued colors of the day/time period. No one person stands out as leader & it works well for their common goal. The interplay of the group again stresses the fact that if they work together their show will be a hit. The "world" is a stage & anything goes. The "Ladder" scene is an example of the playfulness between the members of the group. Again, if they work together cooperatively, they can overcome any obstacle & have success.
  12. This man is pure genius. For your viewing pleasure, Danny Kaye's linguistic versatility...LOL
  13. Maybe those that put this course together could put together another course like this one...Part Deux, utilizing other movies discussing other points they didn't or couldn't discuss because of time/money.
  14. I don't think it's a copyright issue. I have almost all of my favorite Danny Kaye movies on DVR & I got them on TCM. They showed these movies on what would have been (I believe) his 100th birthday. I never get tired of them. Again, I wasn't trying to nitpick here because the people who put this course together know more of what they're doing than I am. I was just a bit disappointed that not one of his films was used as an example of a musical in the 40s/50s. He had so many good ones & I've seen them all at least a gazillion times...LOL. I think it's a matter of showing so many movies over 4 decades. Imagine if they did all of the musicals WE ALL loved? This course would run for many months & I would never get any sleep...LOL.
  15. I know there are only so many hours in a day & that we're viewing musicals that we all love for this course. Having said that, I'm surprised & even a bit shocked that there is not one Danny Kaye film included in any of these listings. I love "The Court Jester," "A Song is Born" & even "White Christmas." The man was a genius & could do it all...sing, dance, act & was truly funny because of his physical comedy (doing many of his own stunts) & rapid-fire novelty songs. He could make you think he's speaking a foreign language when it's mostly gibberish. Who could forget the schtick, "the pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle; the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true!" Then there's "A Song is Born" with a plethora of musicians who were seen in many of the films we're watching now. Danny doesn't sing in this movie but Virginia Mayo does as do many of the other acts in this movie. As I said, I know there are only so many hours in the day & only so many movies they can show on Tuesdays & Thursdays but they could have showed one of his movies. Oh well, next course... I'm still loving all of these movies. It's a good thing I'm off for the summer because I couldn't teach school after staying up all day & night & watching most of these movies..LOL

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