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THE PLAINSMAN on Encore Channel tonight
Permlink Replies: 9 - Pages: 1 - Original Post: Apr 1, 2012 3:48 PM Original Post By: TopBilled Threads: [ Previous | Next ]

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Re: THE PLAINSMAN on Encore Channel tonight
Posted: Nov 4, 2012 7:03 PM   in response to: wouldbestar in response to: wouldbestar
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I just featured 'Out West with Jean Arthur' on the Classic Daily Double thread yesterday over at the General Discussions forum. I included both these titles you have mentioned. She made some other westerns earlier in her career but as you know, these are the two best-known offerings. For trivia buffs, Miss Arthur also appeared in a well-received episode of TV's Gunsmoke in 1965.

I agree that her interpretation of Calamity Jane is delightful and fun to watch. I prefer her brand of Calamity to Evelyn Ankers, Yvonne de Carlo and Doris Day who all took turns playing the role.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2012 9:26 PM   in response to: TopBilled in response to: TopBilled
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:D Perhaps things really do come to those who wait. Thanks to Encore Westerns I was finally in front of a TV set when they ran The Plainsman. Now I know why so many people love it. While historically it’s mostly bunk it’s also delightful bunk.

The movie belongs to Jean Arthur who steals it outright from under her leading men. Tough and bawdy outside she shows us “Calamity Jane’s” softer feminine side as she befriends the pregnant Louisa Cody or lets us see her heart break as she fights a losing battle for the love of “Wild Bill” Hickok. Perhaps she is wrong telling Yellow Hand what she knows to save his life but do any of us women know what we’d do in her position? She’s left to live with her decision when he’s lost to her anyway. This is a more lively woman than the loyal wife of Shane's Rancher Joe but they’re cut from the same cloth.

Gary Cooper's acting style has taken a bashing in some of the other threads but I agree with Hollywood. Those two Oscars and three other nominations were deserved as he shows here. Anybody can wear their feelings “on their sleeves”; it takes talent to show the emotions that are underneath a calm, steady demeanor and Cooper as Hickok does that here. That’s what's needed to balance Arthur/Calamity’s raucousness.

If I’ve ever seen James Ellison in any other role, I’ve not noticed him and I can’t believe that I wouldn’t. My eyes were on him in his every scene. Somebody else for me to research.

To those who talked this movie up so I’d have to catch it-one big thank you! It was worth the wait and time. Wow!


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Re: THE PLAINSMAN on Encore Channel tonight
Posted: Jun 23, 2012 1:44 AM   in response to: clore in response to: clore
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Paramount was desperate at the time it sold the library and was thrilled to get the money. Actually they didn't sell the library to Universal, they sold it to MCA which distributed it for a number of years. Universal didn't get involved until MCA became its parent company.

I can't remember the exact selling price, but it was in the low millions and everybody in the business thought MCA was nuts spending all that money on "old movies", most of them in b/w no less. But MCA had the last laugh and made well over a hundred million dollars from that deal. A really huge sum back then.

When MCA got out of the picture, I don't think Universal's new owners really had any idea what a gold mine they had sitting in their vaults. When the original MCA contracts with TV stations expired, Universal never made an effort to repackage the Paramount library and put it on the market again. As a result, many Paramount titless (not to mention a lot of Universal's own films) weren't shown again for twenty years.

Universal has never been the most forward thinking studio and always seemed a couple of steps behind the others when it came to new things like home video. Perhaps, now that they've seen Warner's success with "on demand" DVDs they'll realize what they have and how much they can make. At least we can hope.


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Posted: Jun 1, 2012 3:26 AM   in response to: clore in response to: clore
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Now we all suffer as Universal seems to be sitting on the bulk of the Paramount library as well as a hefty chunk of their own titles.

I just read that Fox is starting its own Archives line (finally). Now, we need Universal to jump in and start offering consumers classics from their own brand as well as the Paramount library.

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Posted: May 29, 2012 7:52 AM   in response to: TopBilled in response to: TopBilled
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You're quite welcome, glad to be of some assistance. That was a big mistake on the part of Paramount and they should have had some concern as to Universal's willingness to purchase the library.

Could part of it have been related to the fact the not long before, Universal had leased its horror films to the Screen Gems division of Columbia and the latter was reaping big bucks on the Shock Theater packages? But it was just a lease and the films reverted to Universal within the decade.

Now we all suffer as Universal seems to be sitting on the bulk of the Paramount library as well as a hefty chunk of their own titles.

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Posted: May 28, 2012 3:45 PM   in response to: clore in response to: clore
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Thanks, clore, I wasn't sure exactly when that happened. The remake, with Don Murray and Abby Dalton, was released in 1966.

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Posted: May 27, 2012 12:48 PM   in response to: TopBilled in response to: TopBilled
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Apparently, Universal remade it in the 60s. So at some point they acquired it from Paramount.

In 1958, Universal purchased about 700 Paramount titles that had been made between 1929 and 1949. There are some exceptions, such as the 1931 DR. JEKYLL AND MR. HYDE which had already been purchased by MGM so as not to compete with the Spencer Tracy adaptation.

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Re: THE PLAINSMAN on Encore Channel tonight
Posted: May 27, 2012 11:58 AM   in response to: markfp2 in response to: markfp2
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It has since re-aired. But this title is not in heavy rotation like others on this channel.

Apparently, Universal remade it in the 60s. So at some point they acquired it from Paramount. Encore is the place where we find the most Universal film classics on cable...and in this case, some of the Paramount oaters.

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Re: THE PLAINSMAN on Encore Channel tonight
Posted: Apr 17, 2012 12:00 AM   in response to: TopBilled in response to: TopBilled
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I don't recall seeing THE PLAINSMAN on Encore either, maybe they struck a new deal with Universal. If it's on Encore Westerns, it's a safe bet that it will be run numerous times like most of the films they show. I recorded it and it's very nice quality probably made from the same digital master as the DVD.

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THE PLAINSMAN on Encore Channel tonight
Posted: Apr 1, 2012 3:48 PM
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I don't remember ever seeing this film on Encore before. It is scheduled for just two airings tonight.

Gary Cooper and Jean Arthur costar in De Mille's western adventure as Wild Bill Hickok and Calamity Jane.