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Re: 3D Uprezzing, Buyer-Beware
Posted: Jul 1, 2012 10:47 AM
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Two recent 3 - D experiences " Prometheus" and "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter" . The first had better photography but the 3 -D effect added nothing to the movies. On the other hand 3 -D really works with animated films- "Madagascar 3" was really eye popping spectacle- specially a circus production number.
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Re: 3D Uprezzing, Buyer-Beware
Posted: Jun 21, 2012 9:55 PM
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"Thanks for all your great responses, 2D - 3D - Widescreen, Cinerama, 70mm even Stereoscope! I think we have all come to the conclusion that a Film in its Original Format is what we want to see on the Silver Screen as well as on TV!
The 3D craze presently seems to be faltering at the Box Office as historically 3D has always had lackluster box office appeal.
"Who would pay to see "Tim Burton's -Dark Shadows in 3D when you can't even find an audience for the HD version?
I was thinking.. how about Classic Films is 3D? Could you imagine "Wings" or "Metropolis" in 3D? I may have to go to confession after having thoughts about and said that... but would that approach be any different than the "bad colorizing" of Classic Films?
Best
JV
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2-D, OR NOT 2-D, THAT IS THE QUESTION...
Posted: Jun 11, 2012 7:03 AM
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I want to see The Umbrellas of Cherbourg in 3D!
I want to see TORTILLA FLAT , FLAT TOP and FLATLINERS IN 3-D.
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Re: 3D Uprezzing, Buyer-Beware
Posted: Jun 9, 2012 7:17 PM
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Re: the wide-screen "Gone With The Wind". I remember being really excited about it.It was like with the Disney re-releases; they had event status in the days before home video. I'd already seen a couple of the periodic theatrical re-releases over the years, but this was going to going to be really special, right? Wrong. It was the same loss of picture quality that we associate with pan-and-scan, and that's definitely a film in which you don't appreciate a loss of picture quality. Plus whole elements that were already familiar to audiences all of a sudden appeared butchered. I think they went back to original source material to strike the release prints, but they still didn't cut it. After that, the film went to TV so they reverted right back to the original format and I think that was probably the last major theatrical re-release. I wonder if any of those prints still exist. Now that we're talking about it, I'd be interested in checking it out again.
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Re: 3D Uprezzing, Buyer-Beware
Posted: Jun 3, 2012 2:47 AM
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I want to see The Umbrellas of Cherbourg in 3D!
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Re: 3D Uprezzing, Buyer-Beware
Posted: May 31, 2012 6:32 PM
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Hollywood has always been in the business of making money from old films - wasn't there a wide screen stretching of "Gone With The Wind" advertise as an experience in " new screen splendor" - actually I think " Stargate" would be cooler in 3 -D
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Re: 3D Uprezzing, Buyer-Beware
Posted: May 31, 2012 5:33 PM
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News via Variety
Twentieth Century Fox Studio announced that it will release a 3D version of Roland Emmerich's 1996's "Independence Day" on July 3, 2013.
"Well can't say I didn't say so somewhere back in this thread, I thought.. hell if they are going to go back and re-release in 3D every huge modern day blockbuster, then you kind of knew "Independence Day" would be first on the list. While you are at it, how about "Twister" having a 3D cow fall into your lap sounds like fun right?
But again my huge point.. these Film's are not originally shot in 3D nor are they 70mm CinemaScope and would only fill 75% of the Cinerama Screens. Is this all about whether you can get $5.00 more in a I-Max 3D Theater?
Is this good news or really sad and tragic News for the Cinema?
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Re: 3D Uprezzing, Buyer-Beware
Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:20 AM
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Burton's "Dark Shadows" is flat. I did see "The Hobbit " trailer in 3-D and it looks amazing.
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Re: 3D Uprezzing, Buyer-Beware
Posted: Apr 29, 2012 8:08 AM
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"Wow great comments and I'm still laughing at the "empty theater" crack especially for these prices of 3D! Peter Jackson's "The Hobbit" is already under fire and it has not even been released. Shooting at 48fps the Trailer looks like a Home Made Video!
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/28/2985047/peter-jackson-comments-hobbit-frame-rate
Nobody has settled on a format solution especially to get the most out of a Digital Projected Print or should I say File Format? I believe Tim Burton's version of Dark Shadows is in 3D, please let us all know if you have screened it yet. Not to rehash old issues, but what I'm finding is a horrible non-organic and un-natural look to everything! It looks like a computer made the Movie and there is no human touch or element to the Direction. Hell, we can't even be sure anymore if these are actual Human's in roles and acting? Its far beyond "gimicky", its venturing into just pure "snake oil". But its still kinda cool to not know what the hell is going on on the screen as far as the effects since we all realize the plot and storyline will be geared for 11 and 12 year olds.
OK, I admit.. I took my Mom to Titanic 3D and in the first scene, Mom asks.. didn't we see this one before? I wanted to light fire to these oversize glasses before the end and many of us agree, they should sell aspirin as you are exiting the theater! I don't think the 3D Process did anything to help Titanic. I wanted to feel the North Sea freezing temps and bone chilling death! I wanted to be on deck spotting the ice first... isn't that what the Filmmaker wants us to get out of 3D? What we wish for, we can now get? Well, still far from a interactive plotline for sure. I think we all can agree, 3D sells tickets! JV
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Re: 3D Uprezzing, Buyer-Beware
Posted: Apr 23, 2012 5:24 PM
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I saw TITANIC 3D yesterday in an empty theater. It was pretty impressive. Water and water drop effects were really well done, as were dissolves. The dissolves in 3D were beautiful in a way. As with all 3D movies, my eyes get tired after 90 minutes or so, and I ultimately get a big headache. But I got to say, I enjoyed this movie much more in 3D than in 2D. It's a great cast, effects and music. But the script just isn't there. Still, very impressive production.
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Re: 3D Uprezzing, Buyer-Beware
Posted: Apr 9, 2012 1:12 AM
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Personally, I think the film Titanic is one of the most over-rated of all time. But, it was a social phenomenon. I saw it once, and that was enough for me. But, for someone who likes the film, well done 3D could be nice, especially in the confined spaces.
I doubt that Cameron's diving on the Titanic was done for publicity. He enjoys that sort of exploration.
On 3D - I didn't care for the old 3D of the 50s - it didn't work for me, and gave me a head ache. Modern 3D systems work very well, when done properly. At one time, movies were silent, then they talked. They were black and white, then they came in color. Both changes were moving closer to appearing real. 3D, when done naturally, and not with throw-it-at-the-screen gimmicks, is closer to reality. I'm sure that one day, 3D will be the norm.
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Re: 3D Uprezzing, Buyer-Beware
Posted: Apr 5, 2012 9:35 AM
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"Its great to hear some new thoughts here! Instead of speculating, I have purchased advanced tickets for TITANIC 3D IMAX so I can attempt to answer my own questions about the outcome of the 3D process. But if anyone sees the Film, please chime in here...
I agree if the process works and done right, James Cameron and team will be the best at doing it. But I also agree Mr. Blandings that 3D does nothing for Storyline aside for creating a Dramatic and Gimmicky Effect. Although putting you on-deck (per-say 3D process) of The Titanic when she is listing so badly everyone is flying off the ship does sound intriguing indeed.
My fave 3D Movie remains to be "The House of WAX". It was shot on this new wild format very experimental in those days and one must say, it was a very well acted film with a great storyline and the Effects did add to the theme for sure! Many of us here have never seen this film on 35mm and in 3D on the big screen. I was lucky enough to screen the Film in its original format and was issued those very same cardboard glasses. I did noticed that if I moved my head up and down and from side to side quickly, it blurred the picture. But if I kept my head still, it was fine!
Today's so-called 3D Process re-created from a 35mm Print is totally different from how it was accomplished in the 1950's. And the process goes back further in the history of Cinema as somebody just discovered some German War Propaganda Film from the 1930's shot in 3D.
Great thoughts all around... does anyone think there should be a new Oscar Catagory for Best 3D Film of the Year?
JV
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Re: 3D Uprezzing, Buyer-Beware
Posted: Apr 4, 2012 5:27 PM
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James Cameron is a technical perfectionist so I'm sure the 3 - D edition of "Titanic" will be a high quality process.
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Re: 3D Uprezzing, Buyer-Beware
Posted: Apr 4, 2012 1:00 PM
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Just to chime in on what's already been said ... Regardless of any new technologies, I think "3-D" is as much a gimmick now as it's been in the past, maybe more so. I, for one, won't see any movie in that format. It adds nothing to the story. But as modern movies tend not to have much in that department, is it any wonder Hollywood is using it as misdirection from this fact?
And for the record, "3-D" is a misnomer. If you could walk around the back of the screen and view the movie from all sides ... then it would be 3-D. As it is, it's the equivalent of a pop-up book.
On that note, however, regular film is already "3-D" enough. The camera captures smaller, less-focused objects moving behind other larger, focused objects just fine.
Also, I wouldn't want to see a film ever become akin to a Star Trek "holodeck." Filmmaking involves controlling what the audience sees to produce a desired effect. Real 3-D, holograms, and such, will have their uses in gaming, simulators, and the like, but a film should always remain a film.
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