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Permlink Replies: 81 - Pages: 6 [ Previous | 1 2 3 4 5 6 | Next ] - Original Post: Jan 29, 2012 5:22 PM Original Post By: FloydDBarber

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Posted: Feb 2, 2012 1:34 PM   in response to: casablancalover in response to: casablancalover
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Are political ads (directly by politicians or the new PAC type ads) run during an election cycle considered to be 'commericials'?

If YES, there is NO WAY any politicians is going to wish to limit the amount of time these are on. As we saw in Florida, politicians want to run political ads as much as they can. They also tell us these ads create jobs! :)

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Posted: Feb 2, 2012 1:25 PM   in response to: FredCDobbs in response to: FredCDobbs
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Fred wrote: You are looking at it the wrong way around.

When I came along, there were already FCC regulations that limited commercials to about 4 or 5 minutes per half-hour.

I want that back.

hey, that would be government with LESS regulation, for it's only 4-5 minutes of commercials. I like that idea.
Maybe more commercials like these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g7k8o3zVP8

I know it's a PSA, but I like it.

Here's another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1ZZreXEqSY

Edited by: casablancalover on Feb 2, 2012 1:33 PM

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Posted: Feb 2, 2012 12:48 PM   in response to: FredCDobbs in response to: FredCDobbs
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Of course not you Fred! Glad to see you understand I was making a joke. Trust me I heard what you are saying very clearly and get your POV. I play my guitar during commericials, which drives the wife nuts.

So while I might tune others out, I wouldn't do that with you.

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Posted: Feb 2, 2012 8:24 AM   in response to: FloydDBarber in response to: FloydDBarber
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Floyd, I thought Newton was dead!

How can he still be alive and be silent on the horrors of the last 50 years of television?

Good dog, he spoke out against the medium in 1961, when the Dick Van Dyke show was on the air.

Newton, what IS your problem? Please tell me FIOS and Cablevision and the FCC haven't paid for your silence?

Newton? You out there?

Occupation Honorary Consul General, Republic of Singapore, attorney

Rut roh, looks like they not only bought his silence, but shipped him out of the country.

And all this time I thought he was dead and spinning in his grave over the horrors of television. :0

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Posted: Feb 2, 2012 8:19 AM   in response to: FredCDobbs in response to: FredCDobbs
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Fred, I didn't know you were a genius!

So many good words from you, so many ears that will not listen.

Sad, ain't it?

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Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:50 PM   in response to: FredCDobbs in response to: FredCDobbs
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Bring back this guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_N._Minow

When television is good, nothing — not the theater, not the magazines or newspapers — nothing is better. But when television is bad, nothing is worse. I invite each of you to sit down in front of your television set when your station goes on the air and stay there for a day without a book, without a magazine, without a newspaper, without a profit and loss sheet or a rating book to distract you. Keep your eyes glued to that set until the station signs off. I can assure you that what you will observe is a vast wasteland.[6]

Edited by: FloydDBarber on Feb 1, 2012 10:51 PM


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Posted: Feb 1, 2012 7:20 PM   in response to: jamesjazzguitar in response to: jamesjazzguitar
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So to me it is you that is looking at the "problem" (consumers being taken advantage by evil media coporations), the wrong way around.

Who, me?? :D


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Posted: Feb 1, 2012 7:15 PM   in response to: FredCDobbs in response to: FredCDobbs
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Yes, Fred you have explained what the FCC used to do a few times. But if you wish the FCC to put back those type of regulations, why shouldn't they apply to the Internet as well?

i.e. why not regulations that controls the number of pop-up ads, their length etc...

The Internet is the new media and as time marches on will be used more and more than over the air broadcasting and cable. So to me it is you that is looking at the "problem" (consumers being taken advantage by evil media coporations), the wrong way around.

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Posted: Feb 1, 2012 6:46 PM   in response to: jamesjazzguitar in response to: jamesjazzguitar
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You are looking at it the wrong way around.

When I came along, there were already FCC regulations that limited commercials to about 4 or 5 minutes per half-hour.

I want that back.

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Posted: Feb 1, 2012 6:38 PM   in response to: hlywdkjk in response to: hlywdkjk
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I wonder if people who wish for the government to pass regulations that 'control' cable TV providers feel the same if the government passed similar regulation to control Internet providers.

If NOT, why? I.e. why should there be different standards?

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Posted: Feb 1, 2012 6:34 PM   in response to: mrroberts in response to: mrroberts
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There are plenty of "regulations". There are millions of "government regulations". They just don't favor the consumer very much anymore.

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Posted: Feb 1, 2012 6:05 PM   in response to: hlywdkjk in response to: hlywdkjk
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We are all reaping the "benefits" of deregulation.

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Posted: Feb 1, 2012 6:01 PM   in response to: hlywdkjk in response to: hlywdkjk
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Rather than go after the advertisers, a better tack would be to press the appropriate authorities to reinstate those limits.

Immmmm-possible.

The people at the modern FCC do NOT care what you or I think.

There was a time when government agencies cared. I think maybe as a result of the depression and the Roosevelt years. But that all began to change over time, and today we members of the public are generally just irritants to the government agencies.

There were Congressional hearings in the early 1980s. I think for about 3 years. Then they passed a big law that took charge of Cable TV. They placed Cable and Satellite TV under the jurisdiction of local City governments.

I remember living in a little town where a local motel bought a satellite dish and furnished the major channels to each room for free. The city government got upset over that and filed a lawsuit against the motel owner, saying he had no "right" to set up his own satellite dish.

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Posted: Feb 1, 2012 5:51 PM   in response to: FredCDobbs in response to: FredCDobbs
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"A 2-hour time slot for a movie on network TV, but with 1hr and 50 minutes of commercials and 10 minutes of compressed movie." - FCD

Fred, you know how that was allowed to happen. I think you posted about it before.
The FCC (or FTC) had a limit on the amount of commercial time that was permitted every half-hour. But that regulation was rescinded quite awhile ago. And soon afterwards, more commercial time was inserted into programming and 30-minute informercials suddenly proliferated on television. I believe only Children's Programming still has a limit on the amount of ad time that can be shown during a program.

Rather than go after the advertisers, a better tack would be to press the appropriate authorities to reinstate those limits. If public outrage can cause the FCC to act on the elevated sound level of commercials, it can motivate the authorities to address the amount of commercial time inprograms also.

And the FTC could even have strong jurisdictionon cable channels in this advertising fight. The FCC has much less sway over cable practices.

Kyle In Hollywood

Edited by: hlywdkjk on Feb 1, 2012 2:52 PM

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Posted: Feb 1, 2012 5:26 PM   in response to: markfp2 in response to: markfp2
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Many years ago, a client of mine who ran a UHF independent in a mid-sized market refused to deal with the edited versions that he was getting. Thie was when the networks were still airing feature films and the local stations got the versions that were sanitized for the network airings.

So, whenever he could, he would use a store-bought laserdisc as the source, converting to one-inch tape and editing out what he saw fit. Paramount found out somehow and filed a cease-and-desist action, claiming that it was in the violation of the contract.

The station's perception was that it was licensing the titles and not specifically the edited versions. I believe they settled out of court but Paramount and the other majors followed by warning all stations that they were not to use anything but the supplied copies.

But as usual, the major station groups could insist on unedited prints and it the potential deal was big enough, they got their way. I was at Columbia and we had some customers who insisted on 35mm prints and not tape.