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Born in the wrong time (?)
Permlink Replies: 622 - Pages: 42 [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | Next ] - Original Post: Apr 18, 2012 2:21 PM Original Post By: misswonderly

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King of Cool in Louisiana with some Cajun and Creole women and others mixed up in the pot.

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Misinformed, as usual.


In October 1862, the London Times dismissed the preliminary Emancipation Proclamation as an empty gesture. "Where he has no power Mr. Lincoln will set the Negroes free," the newspaper commented; "where he retains power he will consider them as slaves. This is more like a Chinaman beating his two swords together to frighten his enemy than like an earnest man pressing forward his cause."

In recent years, it has sometimes been charged that the Emancipation Proclamation did not free any slaves, since it applied only to areas that were in a state of rebellion, and explicitly exempted the border states, Tennessee, and portions of Louisiana and Virginia. This view is incorrect. The proclamation did officially and immediately free slaves in South Carolina's sea islands, Florida, and some other locations occupied by Union troops. Certainly, the Emancipation Proclamation was only a crucial first step toward complete emancipation, but in effect it transformed the Union forces into an army of liberation.

At the time he issued the preliminary proclamation, Lincoln defended it as a war measure necessary to defeat the Confederacy and preserve the Union. But it seems clear that Lincoln regarded this argument as necessary on tactical grounds. When he issued the final proclamation on January 1, 1863, he described it not only as "a fit and necessary war measure for suppressing said rebellion," but an "act of justice."

In July 1863, Hannah Johnson, the daughter of a fugitive slave, heard an erroneous report that Lincoln was going to reverse the Emancipation Proclamation. She wrote the President: "Don't do it. When you are dead and in Heaven, in a thousand years that action of yours will make the Angels sing your praises...."

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Hi Star,

Thanks for the input.

A friend of mine participates in a yearly Battle of Gettysburg reenactment and he is
from Pennsylvania. So, you can figure which side he is on in the gathering.

Some historians believe Antietam was the most important battle in the War between the
States because had the South won that Battle, it was a draw, England and France might
very well have officially recognized the South as a nation.

Shortly after the Battle, Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation that did not free one
slave. Not one. In fact, he confided in private it had no Constitutional basis at all.

You take care and hope all is well.

Jake

http://www.history.com/news/5-things-you-may-not-know-about-lincoln-slavery-and-emancipation

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Misinformed, as usual.


It is common to encounter a claim that the Emancipation Proclamation did not immediately free a single slave. As a result of the Proclamation, many slaves were freed during the course of the war, beginning with the day it took effect. Eyewitness accounts at places such as Hilton Head, South Carolina, and Port Royal, South Carolina, record celebrations on January 1 as thousands of blacks were informed of their new legal status of freedom.

Estimates of the number of slaves freed immediately by the Emancipation Proclamation are uncertain. One contemporary estimate put the 'contraband' population of Union-occupied North Carolina at 10,000, and the Sea Islands of South Carolina also had a substantial population. Those 20,000 slaves were freed immediately by the Emancipation Proclamation." This Union-occupied zone where freedom began at once included parts of eastern North Carolina, the Mississippi Valley, northern Alabama, the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, a large part of Arkansas, and the Sea Islands of Georgia and South Carolina. Although some counties of Union-occupied Virginia were exempted from the Proclamation, the lower Shenandoah Valley, and the area around Alexandria were covered.

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War between the States battle of Antietam reenactment.

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Hi Star,

Thanks for the input.

A friend of mine participates in a yearly Battle of Gettysburg reenactment and he is
from Pennsylvania. So, you can figure which side he is on in the gathering.

Some historians believe Antietam was the most important battle in the War between the
States because had the South won that Battle, it was a draw, England and France might
very well have officially recognized the South as a nation.

Shortly after the Battle, Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation that did not free one
slave. Not one. In fact, he confided in private it had no Constitutional basis at all.

You take care and hope all is well.

Jake

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Re: Born in the wrong time (?)
Posted: Sep 17, 2012 2:28 PM   in response to: JakeHolman in response to: JakeHolman
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This is 150 years ago today. And we think things are tough in America now? Thank you, Jake, for the photos of what war really costs and reminder that we have overcome far more troublesome times than our current woes and will again.

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Lincoln with the Northern Troops after the battle.



The Bloody Lane where fierce fighting and distinguished bravery from
both sides occurred.



Confederate dead from the battle.

The Battle of Antietam was the bloodiest battle in American history for a single day battle with over 23,000 casualties.

The battle took place on September the 17th, 1862.

Before the battle, Union troops found three cigars wrapped in a sheet of paper. The paper was General Lee's plans and tactics for the battle and they were delivered to General McClellan.

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Re: Born in the wrong time (?)
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Hi Ugaarte,

Thanks for the response and it is a great story. I know of stories
where the cat or dog was not reunited with its owner till over a
year.

By the way, that is not me or my cat. It's just a great story I
thought you and others might enjoy. Just glad she found a
home.

Have a great weekend.

Jake

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Re: Born in the wrong time (?)
Posted: Sep 1, 2012 12:55 PM   in response to: JakeHolman in response to: JakeHolman
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Jake . . .

That is such an Enriching Story about your cat 'Tomball' . . .
or Rather, your Husband's Cat !

How Clever & WISE is that, to have 'Claimed' your
husband's 'Head' as his . . . That is so Whimsical !
And very 'Territorial', I might ADD . . .

You gotta Love 'em ! . . .
Dogs, Cats . . . All GOD's Wonderful Creatures
in the Animal Kingdom.
They seem to possess an Extra SENSE that we are
NOT aware of . . . BUT has Served to AID us (humans)
when we Needed it.

Thanks so much for Sharing, Jake.