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MARKY MARK being UTTERED alongside JOHN GARFIELD and JAMES CAGNEY = ABSURD.
Permlink Replies: 30 - Pages: 3 [ 1 2 3 | Next ] - Original Post: Apr 28, 2012 1:13 PM Original Post By: jaymuss-eato

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Re: if u SUPPORT Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch being COMPARED to John Garfield
Posted: May 2, 2012 8:00 PM   in response to: TCMadminanazi in response to: TCMadminanazi
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Dear jaymuss-eato,

Creating a second user name is a violation of the code of conduct here. As is creating multiple, identical posts in multiple forums as you did the first time. Everyone who is willing to stick to the rules of the forum is welcome to post their opinions. And those who can't follow the rules are not.

Michael/TCMWebAdmin

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if u SUPPORT Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch being COMPARED to John Garfield
Posted: May 2, 2012 6:43 PM   in response to: jaymuss-eato in response to: jaymuss-eato
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..."Posting the same message in multiple threads is spamming, and completely unnecessary. Your ability to post has been revoked until you acknowledge this message and agree in a reply to confine your opinions to a single forum."

...All Who WORRIED their liddle heads off over my MULTIPLE posts of the SAME message will be PLEASED that i received the above MESSAGE from the "web administator"...SLAPPING my WRIST for "SPAMMING"...(- i was thinking "POTTED MEAT" until i looked it up)...
...i am, as of NOW..."BANNED" from posting even THIS.
...but i have complied with a reply of SOLIDARITY in hopes of having my RIGHTS REINSTATED...(?)
(...Funny, how i was just watching "STRANGERS ALL" ...on TCM this morning...which had a THEME regarding FREE SPEECH....But alas; SPAMMING is SPAMMING...Still, i'd done it BEFORE and NOT received a reprimand....+i suspect the WEB ADMINISRATOR is a MEMBER of the FUNKY BUNCH.+)
...and yes, OBVIOUSLY the "blue collar" comparison is the INTENT...but in case you haven't come to the NECESSARY conclusion..."BLUE COLLAR" means something a bit different NOW than during the GREAT DEPRESSION (of which SPAWNED Cagney and Garfield).
...By the Way, what's BLUE COLLAR / Working Class about being the YOUNGER BROTHER of an 80's PAP-STAR (+NOT a BAND+)...then, riding HIS coat-tails to a CAREER of HIS OWN?...How MUCH grit does this guy REALLY got ???

...Are you that much of a SUCKER...that all you need is some MACHO-POSTURING with a MASCULINE new England accent...what do YOU know about WHERE HE CAME FROM???

...Oh, Because you scanned through a WIKIPEDIA entry...NOW you're his BIOGRAPHER?

...OR you bought INTO biographical-propaganda without MUCH CONSIDERATION for FACTS...such PROUD little geniuses
...and who CAN'T be a "MOVIE-STAR" nowadays...all they need is a bit of COACHING...now that our standards have SUNK SO LOW...

...and OUR movie going public is partially illiterate...with NO real interest in ANYTHING outside of a WAL-MART discount on a NEW gosh golly WOW!
...this seems to be the +REAL +tragedy.
...the Critic's DARLINGS these days SURE have SOME Resume'...
...with Dicaprio coming from "GROWING PAINS"...and Marky having a DIRECT link to the NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK...and WHITEY TIGHTY Advertising CAMPAIGNS...it's NO WONDER they get comparisons to the GREATS....????
...What appropriate CREDENTIALS to entertain us with!
...LAUGH-TRACK family sitcoms and a WIGGER turned legit...WHY NOT ???
...i can't believe anyone WATCHING TCM in the 1st place would NOT be abhorred by such trite TOM FOOLERY!
...i started WATCHING TCM to get AWAY from MARKY MARK and DREW BARRYMORE...
...but THIS is what happens when the thinkers DIE OFF and the COMPLACENT take their place!

...This is WHAT HAPPENS...

...when a subsidiary of a MULTI-Corporation OWNS the RIGHTS, INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY and ART that OTHERS produced.
...To those who saw an OPPORTUNITY to discuss their appreciation of JOHN GARFIELD, i salute you...I'm going to pull out my John Prine Lp and listen to "the LATE JOHN GARFIELD BLUES" in tribute...Cheers to you and yours!
...To those who DEFENDED Marky Mark's acting and CONDONE the comparison...or CHOSE to comment on TYPE-O ERRORS and my IDIOSYNCRATIC use of caps....

-+YOU +are PART of the PROBLEM...your PRIORITIES are DISPLACED...your COMPLACENCY only extends the REIGN of MEDIOCRITY...and your CULTURE will suffer accordingly...

...SO make WAY for MORE young SUPERFICIAL hope-FOOLS to "RISE OUT of the MUCK" and produce another CENTURY worth of CONTRIVED trash for YOU (and your DECENDANTS) to PROCESS...i hope you're neck DEEP in it.
...THINK for YOURSELVES before it's too late >>>>>Jaymuss
ps:
the WEB ADMINISTRATOR fella's a bit of a Nazi...Banning people for their OPINIONS...i don't remember there being so many RULES attached to expressing one's self when this BUSINESS began...( but what do i expect clicking the mouse...to check the box...for a CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT with someone as huge as TIME WARNER incorporated!)
+Who +is determining +WHAT +can be discussed???

..It's PERTINENT to ACKNOWLEDGE that FREE SPEECH isn't just a SLOGAN.

...i've watched TCM from it's humble BEGINNNINGS...but i express a few UNPOPULAR criticisms...using NO PROFANITY...

...An articulate and completely SOUND argument....that actually DID encourage POSITIVE discourse...and they LOCK ME OUT from responding to something that "i" AUTHORED.

...i OBVIOUSLY wasn't +advertising +ANYTHING other than my OWN personal +OPPOSING +viewpoint.

...THIS is FASCISM lite.

...enjoi!


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Re: MARKY MARK being UTTERED alongside JOHN GARFIELD and JAMES CAGNEY = ABSURD.
Posted: May 2, 2012 8:16 AM   in response to: Lori3 in response to: Lori3
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Why, thank you Lori! I would be honored, truly I would.

No, Mark is no Cagney and no Grant either. He is a very good actor, but a character actor. He is perhaps a male Ida Lupino, who was very talented, and smart enough to get behind the camera when she saw what a boy's club Hollyweird was.

Until I can think of a male equivalent, the excellent Ms. Lupino will have to do. I hope Mark realizes what a compliment I am giving him! :) Interestingly, he can do comedy and drama both - but I'm guessing he can't dance.

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Re: MARKY MARK being UTTERED alongside JOHN GARFIELD and JAMES CAGNEY = ABSURD.
Posted: May 1, 2012 9:55 PM   in response to: willbefree25 in response to: willbefree25
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willbefree25, I second what you just wrote and may I say "he is no James Cagney either."

I am sharing with my "Garfield Gang" fan club what you wrote a few days ago about how your eyes almost popped out like the wolf in the Bugs Bunny cartoons when you heard the comparison of Wahlberg to Garfield! I sure they will love it, and they will probably want to vote you in to the club.

I will give you 3 guess as to what our secret word is. Hint: The secret word has to be repeated twice, and he said it in just about all of his films, except Juarez!

Thanks

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Re: MARKY MARK being UTTERED alongside JOHN GARFIELD and JAMES CAGNEY = ABSURD.
Posted: May 1, 2012 6:20 PM   in response to: MacCaulayConnor in response to: MacCaulayConnor
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He's a very good actor, and director.

His choices leave something to be desired, see Ted: Restricted on YouTube.

But he's no John Garfield. Never was, never will be.

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Re: MARKY MARK being UTTERED alongside JOHN GARFIELD and JAMES CAGNEY = ABSURD.
Posted: May 1, 2012 4:57 PM   in response to: jaymuss-eato in response to: jaymuss-eato
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I think Mark Wahlberg is a an excellent actor. To each his own, I guess.

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Re: MARKY MARK being UTTERED alongside JOHN GARFIELD and JAMES CAGNEY = ABSURD.
Posted: May 1, 2012 12:20 AM   in response to: jaymuss-eato in response to: jaymuss-eato
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I liked Mark in The Lovely Bones. Most likely in the minority on this thread with that opinion :D

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Re: MARKY MARK being UTTERED alongside JOHN GARFIELD and JAMES CAGNEY = ABSURD.
Posted: Apr 29, 2012 7:14 PM   in response to: clore in response to: clore
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I saw two or three other identical OPs, in threads in other forums. I don't think any of them had responses.

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Re: MARKY MARK being UTTERED alongside JOHN GARFIELD and JAMES CAGNEY = ABSURD.
Posted: Apr 29, 2012 6:35 PM   in response to: Lori3 in response to: Lori3
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They were in some of the other forums, such as "Films and Filmmakers" and "Your Favorites" as I recall. I bounce around the board a lot, lurking in most but commenting in just a few. When I thought that I saw some duplication, I checked by clicking on the user name of the OP but as they were deleted, they will no longer show up in his/her profile.

Either the admins noticed, or someone could have reported him. That kind of behavior is called "spamming" and is frowned upon on most message boards.

It's not as if the idiosyncratic typing style doesn't make him stick out in the first place, but it was the same post verbatim in multiple forums.


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Re: MARKY MARK being UTTERED alongside JOHN GARFIELD and JAMES CAGNEY = ABSURD.
Posted: Apr 29, 2012 6:26 PM   in response to: clore in response to: clore
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clore. I am not trying to be mean or nasty but where are these other threads? I haven't seen any other threads with this same topic?

I must be missing something. What forum are they under?

If you can let me know I would appreciate it. I am just curious now.

You might not be able to respond to me though if this thread is closed or deleted.

Thanks

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Re: MARKY MARK being UTTERED alongside JOHN GARFIELD and JAMES CAGNEY = ABSURD.
Posted: Apr 29, 2012 6:16 PM   in response to: clore in response to: clore
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Just how many forums has this thing been posted in today? I could swear that I've seen this in four different forums and it is barely worth putting up once.

I'm responding to myself as the observation I made earlier of multiple threads on the same subject has been agreed with by the admins as being delete worthy.

Thanks guys.

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Re: MARKY MARK being UTTERED alongside JOHN GARFIELD and JAMES CAGNEY = ABSURD.
Posted: Apr 29, 2012 3:15 PM   in response to: hlywdkjk in response to: hlywdkjk
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hlywdkjk wrote:

I wish I would have watched Three Kings last year when it was on TCM so I could judge the work of Mr. Russell.

Kyle In Hollywood


Three Kings is a great film, sort of a modern Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Borrow the DVD!

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Re: MARKY MARK being UTTERED alongside JOHN GARFIELD and JAMES CAGNEY = ABSURD.
Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:16 AM   in response to: hlywdkjk in response to: hlywdkjk
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"Three Kings" is very good modern film. Garfields life would make a great movie- maybe they can get James Franco to play him...I really don't understad this rabid attack on Walhberg- who actually manage to go from rapper to underwear model to movie star. He is also a very smart producer.

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Re: WALHBERG COULD MAKE HIS MARK . . .
Posted: Apr 29, 2012 12:14 AM   in response to: MovieProfessor in response to: MovieProfessor
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MovieProfessor I love you! You describe Garfield's life so clearly and with such understanding.
I read that his wife said after his death that he was very destructive. Not destructive to others but to himself. Why he was destructive to himself by living an unhealthy lifestyle and not following his doctor's orders we will never know. Whether he was in denial regarding his heart condition, did not fully understand how serious it was or that he knew full well how serious is health issues were and just did care I don't.

I think the story of how as a young boy of 12 or 13 he would hang from a roof top upside down with just his feet holding "on a dare" says a lot of how he felt about himself and his life.

Garfield's story is such a fascinating and tragic one.

I just hope and pray that if a movie is ever done about his life that it is done right. And that they mention how loyal of an American he was and how much he did for the troops during WWII. And how he was one of the first actors to insist that minority actors have more important roles in his films e.g. Canada Lee in Body and Soul.

He was for sure a complex man and difficult to fully understand. I however like to think he was basically what Robert Nott said when he (Nott) asked people who knew Garfield to describe him. Nott wrote one word always came up, sweet! He was so sweet is what people said about him.

Someone wrote of Garfield, "Tough on the outside, hurt little boy on the inside, sexy to the core." That statement to me at least probably bests describes the real Garfield.

Of course my opinion is a great talent lived in this man, a talent that had not yet be fully seen and fully developed. Why God took him at such a young age is a question only God can answer.

Thanks.

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WALHBERG COULD MAKE HIS MARK . . .
Posted: Apr 28, 2012 11:14 PM   in response to: jaymuss-eato in response to: jaymuss-eato
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In speaking of Mark Walhberg, he's a great John Garfield fan! We have to be currently sensible to the point that Walhberg is one of several contemporary actors, available to play Garfield in a bio film. It’s never been an easy, satisfying task to choose someone to play a mythical figure. Walhberg would certainly love to play the celebrated, legendary actor, because he can closely identify his struggling young life with that of Garfield's. But then, so has Leonardo DiCaprio, Josh Brolin, James Franco, Colin Farrell, Josh Hartnett and Casey Affleck, shown interest in a possible film about the legendary John (Julius) Garfield. There has been talk and even some planning for at least the past thirty years on a possible film biography. This has meant that about three generations of actors that have come and went, might have had a chance at portraying one of the shining, towering, symbolic figures of Method Acting.

Over the years, a few actors of the past, who might have been considered, actually feared the idea of portraying such a huge, inspiring idol to the acting profession! It’s been a very difficult haul to decide on what to do about creating a film on Garfield. Naturally, one has to consider the various complicated aspects to Garfield’s life that would both offend, as much as surprise many of the fans. It’s not so much a controversy of political views and setbacks to Garfield’s life, but issues that leave some unanswered questions. He was a man, caught in the middle of being talented, while at the same time a challenge to understand, because while he was a somewhat likeable human being, there were times he went over the deep edge; on a destructive course of irrationality to the point that didn’t make any sense. A good example was the unhealthy lifestyle he led that he knew affected the severe heart condition he carried with him. It must have been much of a torment for him to face his health issues, while at the same time keep up an imagery of normality. But then, it’s been a curse of sorts to humanity that those with special talents, seem to die young, never able to generally fit into the scheme of life. Its as if the body and soul are separated by the talent and then the reality of one's life.