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Re: The vast majority of the August 2012 schedule
Posted: May 6, 2012 2:01 PM
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This sounds serious, but I haven't been able to locate any of this wrongdoing. Has a thread been scrubbed?
There is no wrondoing here at all. It really is not that serious, but maybe it should be.
I simply posted a comment yesterday to Calvin about why he felt it necessary to start yet another thread about the Summer Under the Stars 2012 when in fact there was already another thread about the very same subject that had been started by TopBilled on May 3rd.
And I did not even know that Dominick had also started a thread about the subject on April 30th. Lynn is correct when she writes that she is unsure why his thread did not have longer legs.
Maybe now we know. TopBilled also started his own thread about the subject Dominick started on April 30th. Maybe TopBilled should have added to Dominick's thread?
So now we have two concurrent threads about the same subject. Three if Dominick's thread adds additional posts as well.
My whole concern is the manipulation of the system here. Anyone can start a thread about any given subject. But why then start another thread if it is the goal to write about the same material?
TopBilled wrote the following in his thread yesterday at 4:38PM:
I do feel this thread will continue, because we are discussing the honorees, not necessarily the individual film titles offered in August.
I envision offering up short bios of each of the 31 honorees, so if the thread falls off page one, it will certainly be back each day in August when we celebrate these remarkable classic stars.
The funny thing is Calvin posted the following comment yesterday five hours before TopBilled's comments from above were made:
I have about 95% of the August schedule figured out. The only day I come up empty is for August 9.
It's posted in another thread "Vast majority of the August 2012 Schedule". Sorry for any duplication, but I didn't see this conversation going on until after I posted the schedule.
The problem I have with this is the fact that Calvin possibly believed that the info he wanted to post was not forthcoming in TopBilled's thread. So he starts yet another thread about the same subject.
To me, this is just another occurrence of another poster feeling the need to create a thread about the same subject to justify his feelings or need to publish additional info. When in fact he could very well have continued writing and posting on TopBilled's thread.
Maybe I am just making too much of this, but to me, less is more.
The more threads created causes a worsening situation to continue. While performing a search about Summer Under the Stars 2012, a guest or member now will see that three different threads have been started about the same subject, and to me that just causes more time to be wasted in figuring out which thread to post under.
Everyone should be able to create a thread about anything, but you should also do your research and add to an already established thread. In this case it wasn't as if TopBilled's thread was months old and nothing had been added to it in weeks, but the fact that Calvin decided to start another thread simply because the thoughts that he wanted to convey he felt weren't being added to TopBilled's thread in a timely matter.
Newcomers to this board do this all the time. They fail to do the proper research to locate threads that may have already touched upon a subject that may have already been written about, but instead of looking for such a thread, in their haste they start yet another thread about the same subject. Just because the research might take them longer than they would like.
I try to do the proper amount of research before I write anything here on the boards. Especially if I want to add something to a thread already in existence. I am not sure why Calvin wanted to start another thread, only he can answer that. I just can't for the life of me figure out why people always have to start another thread about the same subject.
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Re: The vast majority of the August 2012 schedule
Posted: May 6, 2012 1:35 PM
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VP19 wrote:
With the SUTS 2012 roster now fully identified, here's the updated list of the Top 25 stars of each gender from the American Film Institute, along with their number of SUTS appearances:
VP, This brings several questions to mind:
What is AFI's criteria for selecting these Top 25?
How about those stars NOT on these lists, i.e. Kay francis, who has been a SUTS honoree more than once, or Tyrone Power, apparently his first time?
Why have Mae West, Vivien Leigh, Shirley Temple and Mary Pickford NOT been ever selected? I can understand James Dean, since he made way too few films to cover a 24 hour block, not sure about Grace Kelly, but she should be close at least.
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Re: The vast majority of the August 2012 schedule
Posted: May 6, 2012 1:07 PM
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VP, thanks for the link. I loved last years group (Blondell, Veidt, Gabin, Colman, Chaney in particular) but this group has some good ones too for me anyway (Loy, Barrymore, Power, Cagney, Mifune, Bartholomew, Francis, William, Poitier, Hayworth, Gish.) Maybe I'm too easy to please. LOL
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Re: The vast majority of the August 2012 schedule
Posted: May 6, 2012 1:04 PM
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Thankyou, lz. I had seen the August Schedule thread, which is quite small and not containing anything objectionable, but hadn't looked at the SUTS thread.
Not so serious as it sounded (especially after willbefree's resurrection of the 'controversy'). But I can stop being curious about it now. I hate thinking I missed out on some interesting social intrigue - and now I know I didn't really.
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Re: The vast majority of the August 2012 schedule
Posted: May 6, 2012 12:50 PM
in response to: darkblue
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This sounds serious, but I haven't been able to locate any of this wrongdoing.
Dark,
Nothing got scrubbed as far as I can tell but there are multiple threads on the subject:
This one started on May 5th at 9:05 by calvinnme
This one started on May 3rd at 6:46 (PST) by TopBilled:
http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?threadID=164530&tstart=0
And this one started on April 30th at 5:18 (PST) by Dominick:
http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?threadID=164534&tstart=25
Not sure why Dominick's thread didn't have longer legs in terms of posters but maybe they felt the title of the thread was more about the August schedule and less about Summer Under the Stars/SUTS schedule.
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Re: The vast majority of the August 2012 schedule
Posted: May 6, 2012 12:05 PM
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With the SUTS 2012 roster now fully identified, here's the updated list of the Top 25 stars of each gender from the American Film Institute, along with their number of SUTS appearances:
Actors
1. Humphrey Bogart, 4 (03, 04, 05, 11)
2. Cary Grant, 6 (03, 04, 05, 06, 09, 11)
3. James Stewart, 6 (03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 11)
4. Marlon Brando, 3 (05, 08, 11)
5. Fred Astaire, 3 (03, 05, 08)
6. Henry Fonda, 4 (04, 08, 09, 10)
7. Clark Gable, 2 (03, 09)
8. James Cagney, 3 (03, 05, 12)
9. Spencer Tracy, 4 (03, 05, 07, 08)
10. Charlie Chaplin, 2 (04, 08)
11. Gary Cooper, 4 (03, 04, 07, 12)
12. Gregory Peck, 3 (03, 06, 08)
13. John Wayne, 6 (03, 04, 05, 06, 09, 12)
14. Laurence Olivier, 1 (04)
15. Gene Kelly, 3 (03, 08, 12)
16. Orson Welles, 1 (11)
17. Kirk Douglas, 4 (03, 04, 05, 07)
18. James Dean, 0
19. Burt Lancaster, 3 (04, 06, 11)
20. The Marx Brothers, 1 (04 for Groucho)
21. Buster Keaton, 1 (07)
22. Sidney Poitier, 4 (04, 06, 09, 12)
23. Robert Mitchum, 2 (03, 07)
24. Edward G. Robinson, 2 (04, 08)
25. William Holden, 2 (03, 07)
Actresses
1. Katharine Hepburn, 7 (03, 04, 05, 06, 08, 10, 12)
2. Bette Davis, 4 (03, 04, 09, 11)
3. Audrey Hepburn, 2 (06, 09)
4. Ingrid Bergman, 4 (06, 08, 10, 12)
5. Greta Garbo, 2 (03, 08)
6. Marilyn Monroe, 1 (12)
7. Elizabeth Taylor, 4 (03, 04, 07, 10)
8. Judy Garland, 3 (03, 05, 09)
9. Marlene Dietrich, 2 (03, 11)
10. Joan Crawford, 4 (03, 05, 07, 11)
11. Barbara Stanwyck, 3 (04, 06, 08)
12. Claudette Colbert, 2 (04, 11)
13. Grace Kelly, 0
14. Ginger Rogers, 2 (04, 12)
15. Mae West, 0
16. Vivien Leigh, 0
17. Lillian Gish, 1 (12)
18. Shirley Temple, 0
19. Rita Hayworth, 3 (06, 08, 12)
20. Lauren Bacall, 2 (05, 10)
21. Sophia Loren, 1 (05)
22. Jean Harlow, 1 (04)
23. Carole Lombard, 2 (06, 11)
24. Mary Pickford, 0
25. Ava Gardner, 3 (04, 08, 12)
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Re: The vast majority of the August 2012 schedule
Posted: May 6, 2012 11:46 AM
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What a thrill to see Mifune as the "missing link" from the schedule that originally appeared in that other SUTS thread. For anyone who wants to see two of his best non-Samurai films, Drunken Angel (1948) and Red Beard (1966) are particularly outstanding. Too bad we don't get High and Low and The Bad Sleep Well , but the former played last month and hopefully the latter might get a shot in the future.
And while everyone has their own pet "sleepers" to recommend, I'd go with Myrna Loy's The Prizefighter and the Lady (1933, with future heavyweight champ Max Baer in a prominent role); Irene Dunne's Symphony of Six Million , a beautifully played 1932 drama with Ricardo Cortez as an idealistic Lower East Side doctor; and Greta Garbo's Mata Hari , the 1933 version which is playing on Lionel Barrymore day. This schedule looks a LOT better than it did when only the names of the stars (minus Mifune) were posted. Not quite as good as last year's, but that was a pretty high standard.
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Re: The vast majority of the August 2012 schedule
Posted: May 6, 2012 11:30 AM
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fxreyman said: You COULD have posted your information in the same thread. But no, I guess you felt the need to have your very own thread about the same subject? TopBilled said: it seemed underhanded and snarky - when it seems like posters are threateing to boycott or make unnecessary duplicate threads, that is what in my opinion erodes away at the good spirit and community feeling of these boards. willbefree25 said: They're anonymous, that's why they act like this. Sad, ain't it? P.S. The ignore feature is a treat.
This sounds serious, but I haven't been able to locate any of this wrongdoing. Has a thread been scrubbed?
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Re: The vast majority of the August 2012 schedule
Posted: May 6, 2012 6:54 AM
in response to: TopBilled
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However, when it seems like posters are threateing to boycott or make unnecessary duplicate threads, that is what in my opinion erodes away at the good spirit and community feeling of these boards.
They're anonymous, that's why they act like this.
Sad, ain't it?
P.S. The ignore feature is a treat. 
Excellent effort, calvinnme. Looks like TCM is actually satisfying both camps in August.
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Re: The vast majority of the August 2012 schedule
Posted: May 6, 2012 6:45 AM
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That missing space is the third film in the Samurai Trilogy, Duel at Ganryu Island - 11:45 PM ET.
Very pleased to see Mifune get a day, although Muhomatsu is the only film I haven't seen in this lot.
Thanks, that film has been added to the schedule.
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Re: The vast majority of the August 2012 schedule
Posted: May 6, 2012 4:07 AM
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I should start clearing space on the DVR's now. Warren William, Ty Power, Kay Francis. Nice job TCM.
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Re: The vast majority of the August 2012 schedule
Posted: May 6, 2012 2:39 AM
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Swithin wrote;
The good news for me is that Kidnapped (1938) will be shown on Freddie Bartholomew day (August 18). I love that version of the film and haven't seen it in yonks!
Swithin, I too enjoy this version. But since it was on a number of times on FMC in the last year or two, I'm even more excited about another of Freddie's Fox titles, PROFESSIONAL SOLDIER. And then there's LLOYD'S OF LONDON, the film that skyrocketed Tyrone Power to stardom (Freddie has top billing but a small role as Ty as a boy).
Edited by: Arturo on May 6, 2012 2:39 AM
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Re: The vast majority of the August 2012 schedule
Posted: May 6, 2012 1:41 AM
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thanks for posting the august schedule. i could not find it anywhere on TCM.com. It went only up to july. Looks like nothing special for august. THEY SHOULD SHOW GODFATHER 1 ON JAMES CAAN DAY ! too bad AMC owns the film for another 8 years. Those jerks !
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Re: The vast majority of the August 2012 schedule
Posted: May 6, 2012 1:37 AM
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That missing space is the third film in the Samurai Trilogy, Duel at Ganryu Island - 11:45 PM ET.
Very pleased to see Mifune get a day, although Muhomatsu is the only film I haven't seen in this lot.
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