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Drew on Camille
Permlink Replies: 5 - Pages: 1 - Original Post: May 7, 2012 6:04 PM Original Post By: johnbabe Threads: [ Previous | Next ]

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Re: Drew on Camille
Posted: Nov 13, 2012 4:05 PM   in response to: 1968B2 in response to: 1968B2
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Luise Rainer won for THE GOOD EARTH the same year that Garbo was nominated for CAMILLE.

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Re: Drew on Camille
Posted: Nov 12, 2012 5:33 PM   in response to: johnbabe in response to: johnbabe
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You forgot to mention Bette Davis's amazing ability to disappear into a role.

And please, Drew's assessment of Greta's acting ability? Gimme a break.

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Posted: Nov 1, 2012 11:06 PM   in response to: johnbabe in response to: johnbabe
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If not Garbo, who did win that year? Was that 1936?

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Re: Drew on Camille
Posted: May 15, 2012 5:35 PM   in response to: BrianMEwig in response to: BrianMEwig
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thank you for your marvelous message on Garbo and the thoughts you have expressed which i fully respect - yes Grand Hotel is a great performance, as are all of them, so actually think that Anna Karenina was her greatest performance - she won the NY Drama Critic's award for both Anna and Camille - nevertheless - she short changed everyone including herself by retiring at such a tender age of 36 - she had so much more to give!

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Re: Drew on Camille
Posted: May 12, 2012 2:00 PM   in response to: johnbabe in response to: johnbabe
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Hi, John!

Of course Garbo is superb here; I think it is the definitive performance of this iconic role; Barrymore and Henry Danielle are also excellent. Had MGM provided Garbo with a more subtantial Armand (sorry, but I have never acquired a taste for the shallow Robert Taylor), "Camille" might have been very close to a masterpiece.

Respectfully, I take issue with your assertion that Garbo's loss of the 1937 Oscar for Best Actress was one of the Academy's 'greatest travesties.' Garbo lost to Luise Rainer for "The Good Earth" and, in my opinion, Rainer -- who is absolutely unrecognizable and never less than convincing as the Chinese peasant wife -- easily deserved the award. Looking at archive footage of this remarkable actress, as well as the recent interview with the 101-year-old Rainer that Robert Osborne did a couple years back, it is clear to me that Luise Rainer had an ability to completely disappear into the most complex roles that is pretty much unparalleled among actresses then at work in 1930s Hollywood. Rainer does an equally remarkable transformation when she becomes Anna Held in 1936's "The Great Ziegfeld," for which, of course, she also received a Best Actress Oscar. I suspect Rainer is not given her due now, because she is less known to us as Garbo, and since we have little sense of what the 'real' Rainer was like as a personality, it is difficult for us to gauge the effectiveness of her transformations into the characters that appear in "Ziegeld" and "The Good Earth." I wonder how many people assume that Rainer was pretty much like Anna Held in real life!

None of this is really meant to take away from your eloquent tribute to Garbo, for whom I have great admiration. On the whole, though, I do think I prefer Garbo's work in films like "Queen Christina" and "Grand Hotel" (the latter being, I think, a vastly underrated performance). Of course, Garbo didn't get nominated for either of those films, so go figure! I guess people have always groused about those biazarro Oscar nominations. Viva Hollywood, I suppose.



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Drew on Camille
Posted: May 7, 2012 6:04 PM
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i watched it again and i love Drew B's analysis of GG's acting it opened up a new vision for me with this film - i love that Drew is on the TCM essentials - she give a fresh new look to vintage classic films - this film is a true gem and oh yes, it was discussed again, how everyone was shocked that Garbo did not get the Oscar for this performance - it was Hollywood's greatest travesties! Anyhow, they could not stop praising her performance - and how it played to an intelligent audience - in the hope that they would understand the subteties of her interpretation of the character - i loved every minute of their opinions on the film - great stuff - keep these coming!