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let's hope the tradition continues with the Oct 21st animation TCM marathon
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Re: let's hope the tradition continues with the Oct 21st animation TCM marathon
Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:37 PM   in response to: ParamountCartoo... in response to: ParamountCartoo...
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I'd love to see more animation on TCM, it's a crucial part of our film heritage, and too often overlooked. The holiday season is a great reason to show more classic animation! Thanks to TCM and Tom Stathes for the great job so far.

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Posted: Oct 26, 2012 7:17 PM   in response to: ParamountCartoo... in response to: ParamountCartoo...
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I enjoyed last Sunday's presentation. Max Fleischer's "Gulliver's Travels" was an annual Thanksgiving treat growing up in New York in the 1960s. It was a very long time coming to see it on TCM. In regards to "Mr. Bug Goes to Town", it was 15 years, almost to the day, that this movie (titled as "Hoppity Goes to Town") was last shown on cable (AMC). Hopefully, both these classic movies find a regular home on TCM. Not only that, they are restored to their orginal glory.

The Fleischer brothers were overshadowed by Disney, but what their studio created was some of the best animation ever produced. From the middle of the silent age to 1942 they gave us Koco the Clown, Betty Boop, Grampy, Popeye the Sailor, Gabby, Hunky & Spunky and Superman. Not to mention their "Cartoon Classics" series.

One can create several programming blocks just concentrating on the Flescher Studios, the rotoscope technqiue and their ability to have cartoons with 3D depth. This is very apparent in many of the Black & White cartoons. Though, watch very closely the opening credits to Mr. Bug as the camera sweeps over New York City, the 3D, depth affect is very apparent.

Also, Jerry Beck is a must have to conduct what I would call "Animation Essentials" a companion to "The Essentials". Animation is much as part of the classic movies, as the movies themselves.

I look forward to future animation on TCM, not only in specials, but as fillers between movies. And. maybe they can do what PBS and ACM did years ago and create a nostalgic trip to the movies ala the golden age: Previews, a newsreel, a cartoon short, a short subject and a movie. .

I hope for TCM to continue presenting classic films, uncut and commercial free for many years to come..

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Re: let's hope the tradition continues with the Oct 21st animation TCM marathon
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 11:15 PM   in response to: AWalker in response to: AWalker
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Those would all be good. I think that would just scratch the surface of what they can do. Ive always had a findness for Max Fleischer and would love to see something focusing on his silent work. Maybe they could focus on specific pioneering animators like Fleischer, Paul Terry, Winsor McCay, John Bray, Walter Lantz and maybe another could be specific important characters like Felix the Cat, Koko the Clown, Oswald the Rabbitt, Farmer Al Falfa.

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Posted: Oct 24, 2012 11:57 PM   in response to: ParamountCartoo... in response to: ParamountCartoo...
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Yes!! Jerry Beck's program was an admirable first step. How about a regular slot for animation on TCM? For a while, TBS was a place to go for classic Warners and MGM cartoons, and then it was the Cartoon Network, where Turner added to his phenomenal library of classic cartoons. Now where are they? All the stuff I used to watch is gone, and nobody knows what they're missing!

Here's a thought: package some regular slots in a "Matinee at the Bijou"-like recreation of what movies were like into the 1960s, with feature, shorts, and (most important) cartoons! But have a solid block of animation at some time like, oh, Saturday morning!

Short version, in all caps for no good reason: MORE CARTOONS!

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Posted: Oct 24, 2012 11:34 AM   in response to: ParamountCartoo... in response to: ParamountCartoo...
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I was delighted with the cartoon program on the 21st -- the UPA, Fleischer features, Stathes collection and all of it. And I enjoyed Jerry Beck's interaction with Robert. A strong choice, and please, let's have more.

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Posted: Oct 23, 2012 8:59 PM   in response to: ParamountCartoo... in response to: ParamountCartoo...
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Please do more of this! What a fantastic evening and what great films! More people need to be exposed to these historic films and in the great transfers you presented. I want to see more from the Tom Stathes collection as well.

I stayed up way past my bedtime on a work night to watch this (I get up at 5am)...and I drove over 20 miles to the home of friends to watch it since I don't have cable right now. Guess who is ordering cable/satellite with TCM in the package just because you did this. That's right, Me!

Thanks TCM and keep this ongoing!

Michael McNiel

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Posted: Oct 23, 2012 4:03 PM   in response to: ParamountCartoo... in response to: ParamountCartoo...
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What a joy! To see such a varied assortment of rare silent animation - in prime time yet (at least on the West Coast) - was wonderful . I'm guessing that the survival rate of silent animation is even worse than live action silents which is tragic, especially since a few of them were in less than prime condition. The imagination on display Sunday night was revelatory, and many of them were seriously funny! This area of film history has been long ignored and mostly forgotten; hopefully this broadcast opens up a new window of appreciation and will result in further explorations of these charming shorts. I will certainly be watching. THANK YOU TCM!!!

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Re: let's hope the tradition continues with the Oct 21st animation TCM marathon
Posted: Oct 23, 2012 3:03 PM   in response to: ParamountCartoo... in response to: ParamountCartoo...
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WE WANT MORE!

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Posted: Oct 23, 2012 1:27 PM   in response to: ParamountCartoo... in response to: ParamountCartoo...
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Wow! What a great night of watching tv. Having grown up in the 80's I had seen Gulliver before and a couple of the UPA shorts even (at least they seemed familiar). I had seen the Inkwell having searched on the internet for old/weird cartoons...but to be able to see Mr. Bug and Achmed on my tv rather than small laptop was great.

I know TCM won't dedicate a six hour block to animation all the time but I had a couple of ideas that maybe a moderator could pass along:

Do a 2 or 3 hour block once a month with a few shorts and one feature....

As a lead into the Underground on Friday nights maybe 30 minutes of shorts or if it's a double feature night between the two movies...

And for the older b&w silent animation shorts, why not just make that a regular part of Silent Sunday?

TCM - I've been a fan for several years now (mostly watching the Underground and 'cult classics' type, but I do tune in at other times as well) but it was this last Sunday night that made me want to actually log in to be able to post. In the past I've checked the site (it's a nice site :) ) but never felt the need to write anything on the boards.

Please make classic animation (shorts and/or features) a more regular part of your programming.

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Posted: Oct 23, 2012 6:36 AM   in response to: ParamountCartoo... in response to: ParamountCartoo...
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Another vote to keep the clasic animation coming on TCM! Sunday night's program was particulary well thought-out and kudos to the members of the restoration team who provided us with wonderful presentations of the early animation from the beginning of the 20th century.

I especially love the shorts from Fleischer's Out of the Inkwell/Ko-Ko the Clown series, which are astonishningly inventive and very entertaining and surreal, but any historical animation would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you, and congratulations to everyone involved!

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Posted: Oct 23, 2012 2:12 AM   in response to: ParamountCartoo... in response to: ParamountCartoo...
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The animation last night was excellent. It's always nice to see beautiful prints of films like Gulliver and M.r Bug, but to see all those wonderful early cartoons, like the Koko's and I was glad to see a Bobby Bumps. This would make a great show for a regular slot on the weekends. Thanks for bringing this to us. TCM, you're good people!

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Posted: Oct 22, 2012 11:07 PM   in response to: ParamountCartoo... in response to: ParamountCartoo...
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Just want to add to the many many voices expressing their gratitude for the animation marathon and hoping there will be more to come! Mr. Beck is a more than capable co-host and I look forward to tuning in again soon.

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Re: let's hope the tradition continues with the Oct 21st animation TCM marathon
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 10:08 PM   in response to: AWalker in response to: AWalker
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Nice list. I'd add Ub Iwerks' Flip the Frog (and others,) Van Beuren Studios stuff, and early Felix the Cat silents

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Posted: Oct 22, 2012 9:37 PM   in response to: ParamountCartoo... in response to: ParamountCartoo...
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There is no good reason for TCM not to use the foundation established by presenting these rarely seen films. Cartoon Alley was a fine program, but it lacked a really knowledgeable presenter who could place early animation in a historic and progressional perspective. Bring Jerry Beck back, and let him put together shows, with various guests who are knowledgeable within each niche. Some topical themes which would all warrant exhibition include:

Max Fleischer - Koko silent cartoons (w/ Ray Pointer!)
The "Red Seal" sound cartoons from the mid 1920s
The Evolution and Decline of Betty Boop
Popeye
The Color Classics 1934 -39

Universal Pictures - Oswald the Lucky Rabbit ( Mickey's direct ancestor)
Silent years 1927 - 1929 w/ David Gerstein
Early Sound 1929 - 1934
Color Cartunes 1934-35 ( only six made )

Columbia Pictures - Scrappy ( w/ homage to Toby the Pup) w/ Steve Stanchfield

The George Pal Puppetoons - "The Puppetoon Movie" w/ Bob Baker
"Selected hand picked classics from the series"

Ladislaw Starewicz - Silent era stop motion genius

Thats 10 -12 shows right there. That's not even touching the classic 1930's Warner Brothers canon.

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Posted: Oct 22, 2012 8:48 PM   in response to: ParamountCartoo... in response to: ParamountCartoo...
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More animation please! There is so much good stuff out there that is so rarely seen outside of specialized screenings - film schools, art theaters, museums - it would be a great use of TCM's resources to make animation a regular part of the schedule.
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