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this skunk had that presser for only one reason.

to encourage the democrats to begin impeachment.

idiot!

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Colossians 3:20
20 Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord. 

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House Judiciary DemsVerified account @HouseJudiciary

 

Given that Special Counsel Mueller was unable to pursue criminal charges against the President, it falls to Congress to respond to the crimes, lies and other wrongdoing of President Trump

– and we will do so.

No one, not even the President of the United States, is above the law.

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6 minutes ago, mr6666 said:

House Judiciary DemsVerified account @HouseJudiciary

 

Given that Special Counsel Mueller was unable to pursue criminal charges against the President, it falls to Congress to respond to the crimes, lies and other wrongdoing of President Trump

– and we will do so.

No one, not even the President of the United States, is above the law.

House Judiciary DemsVerified account @HouseJudiciary

 

Mueller confirmed 3 central points:

he did not exonerate @realDonaldTrump of obstruction of justice,

obstruction of justice is a serious crime that strikes at the core of our justice system

& the Constitution points to Congress to take action to hold the President accountable.

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'No obstruction' no more:

Mueller statement prompts shift in Trump talking points

Trump and his aides were far more careful than usual to say that Barr — not Mueller

— cleared the president in the Russia probe.

..... The change from “no collusion, no obstruction” to “no collusion, no conspiracy” was a striking shift for a White House whose rhetoric has been consistent until now. ..........

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/29/trump-strategically-changes-his-mueller-response-1346882

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25 minutes ago, mr6666 said:

House Judiciary DemsVerified account @HouseJudiciary

 

Mueller confirmed 3 central points:

he did not exonerate @realDonaldTrump of obstruction of justice,

obstruction of justice is a serious crime that strikes at the core of our justice system

& the Constitution points to Congress to take action to hold the President accountable.

OK, I'm getting confused.  Did Mueller actually state in his presentation or in the report that president Trump "obstructed justice?"  Or did he say obstruction or interference may have occurred, but his group did not look at that?

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NBC NewsVerified account @NBCNews 9h9 hours ago

 

Mueller: "We did not ... make a determination to whether the president did commit a crime,"

and charging the president with a crime was not an option that could be considered

due to DOJ policy.

 

Pres. Trump on Twitter: "Mueller would have brought charges, if he had ANYTHING."

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9 minutes ago, mr6666 said:

NBC NewsVerified account @NBCNews 9h9 hours ago

 

Mueller: "We did not ... make a determination to whether the president did commit a crime,"

and charging the president with a crime was not an option that could be considered

due to DOJ policy.

 

Pres. Trump on Twitter: "Mueller would have brought charges, if he had ANYTHING."

:blink:

It would have been much better, all things considered, if in his presentation Mueller had said: there is a possibility that president Trump committed crimes, but under DOJ policy we did not look at that aspect.  Congress should investigate for those activities.

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8 minutes ago, TheCid said:

OK, I'm getting confused.  Did Mueller actually state in his presentation or in the report that president Trump "obstructed justice?"  Or did he say obstruction or interference may have occurred, but his group did not look at that?

"..... The special counsel’s report, a redacted version of which was made public last month, outlines 10 instances investigated by the special counsel in which Trump may have attempted to interfere with the investigation, as well as numerous connections the Trump campaign had with foreign actors. But Mueller and his team did not actually come to a conclusion on obstruction of justice. .....

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/4/18/18484947/mueller-report-obstruction-of-justice-summary

that's why a congressional investigation is needed to clear things up

& opening PUBLIC impeachment inquiry would help make clear evidence & witnesses (since most will never actually READ the report)

& putting Impeachment behind subpoenas would make them more legally powerful

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Fact-checking Trump's flurry of lies and falsehoods

Legal constraints on Mueller

 
In a tweet, Trump said, "Robert Mueller would have brought charges, if he had ANYTHING, but there were no charges to bring!"
 
.....Facts First: This is the opposite of the truth. Mueller's hands were tied by longstanding Justice Department guidelines that a sitting President can't be indicted. In his public comments this week, Mueller specifically said charging Trump was "not an option we could consider."
 
Mueller made it clear in his public comments on Wednesday that the guidelines had a significant influence on the investigation, tying his hands from the very start from even considering whether a crime had been committed. Trump is therefore creating a false narrative by asserting that Mueller "would have brought charges" if there was evidence Trump broke the law.
 
In fact, Mueller's report presented substantial evidence that Trump obstructed justice on a few fronts. But Mueller didn't offer a conclusion on whether Trump should be prosecuted, because he was bound by Justice Department guidelines that stopped him.......
 

Concerns about Russian meddling

 
In a tweet, Trump said "Russia has disappeared" from the public debate because the Mueller investigation did not establish a conspiracy of collusion between Trump's campaign and Russia.
 
Facts First: The topic of Russian interference is still at the forefront of national politics.
 
Mueller zeroed in on Russian meddling during his public comments, solemnly saying, "I will close by reiterating the central allegation of our indictments, that there were multiple, systematic efforts to interfere in our election. And that allegation deserves the attention of every American.".....

Mueller's findings on obstruction

 
In a tweet, Trump said, "Mueller didn't find Obstruction either."
 
Facts First: This is patently false. Mueller did uncover substantial evidence of obstruction by Trump and the report detailed how Trump's actions crossed the legal threshold on several key episodes. But Mueller said he was prohibited from recommending criminal charges and struggled with "difficult issues" of investigating a sitting President. Instead, he alluded to Congress' role in holding a president accountable....
Mueller was crystal clear in his public comments Wednesday that he was not clearing Trump of obstruction. He implicitly rebuked Barr's finding of "no obstruction" by stating, "If we had had confidence that the President clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."

Mueller's perceived conflicts

....Facts First: Mueller did not have conflicts of interest, and Trump knows it. The Justice Department cleared Mueller of any conflicts when he took the job in 2017. Trump's top aides told him that these perceived conflicts were "ridiculous" and were not considered true conflicts.
 
Trump's claim that Mueller aggressively sought the FBI job is contradicted by Bannon's testimony to investigators....
 

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brought in a lot of benefits to the great state of ms. ... an old lion gone ...

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