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This was probably discussed before. I have often wondered about Grant Williams, who never married or had relationships with women that were particularly well documented. The Incredible Shrinking Man is one of my personal favorites of the stressed-out fifties, the decade that also begot Invasion of the Body Snatchers (i.e. everybody becoming the same under McCarthyism, just not Kevin McCarthy) and Psycho, filmed at the close of the decade as an exclamation point to the Eisenhower Era's sexual suppression and forever linked in my mind by John Gavin asking "Why was he dressed like... that?".

 

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Here he is being all affectionate with wifie dear, only SHE is playing hard-to-get: http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/569124/Incredible-Shrinking-Man-The-Movie-Clip-To-The-Galley-Wench-.html

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Recently I've been watching episodes of the Mr. Lucky TV series. John Vivyan, who resembles Cary Grant, plays the title role. He didn't go on to have a movie career and after 1970, his television appearances are rare. In one article online, he was supposedly Joan Crawford's date to the 1963 Oscars. But I didn't find any evidence he was married or had children. I'd like to know more about him.

 

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Maybe these guys all planned to become monks or Catholic priests after their acting careers ended. I guess we can't assume anything just because they were quiet about their sex lives (if they had any of consequence).

 

Their careers all predated Stonewall and, even after Stonewall, we had Anita Bryant, Jerry Falwell, the Reagan administration and the AIDS panic still keeping many actors in the closet well into the late 1980s and beyond. Even aging stars like Richard Chamberlain and Ian McKellen who were well established didn't before then.

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Maybe these guys all planned to become monks or Catholic priests after their acting careers ended. I guess we can't assume anything just because they were quiet about their sex lives (if they had any of consequence).

 

Their careers all predated Stonewall and, even after Stonewall, we had Anita Bryant, Jerry Falwell, the Reagan administration and the AIDS panic still keeping many actors in the closet well into the late 1980s and beyond. Even aging stars like Richard Chamberlain and Ian McKellen who were well established didn't before then.

 

Yes, they could have had children that were not public knowledge (illegitimate ones). Or they were "confirmed bachelors."

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This was probably discussed before. I have often wondered about Grant Williams, who never married or had relationships with women that were particularly well documented. The Incredible Shrinking Man is one of my personal favorites of the stressed-out fifties, the decade that also begot Invasion of the Body Snatchers (i.e. everybody becoming the same under McCarthyism, just not Kevin McCarthy) and Psycho, filmed at the close of the decade as an exclamation point to the Eisenhower Era's sexual suppression and forever linked in my mind by John Gavin asking "Why was he dressed like... that?".

 

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Here he is being all affectionate with wifie dear, only SHE is playing hard-to-get: http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/569124/Incredible-Shrinking-Man-The-Movie-Clip-To-The-Galley-Wench-.html

Grant Williams was such a beautiful man.

 

I've been collecting private photos of him.

 

And he is never with anybody but himself.

 

And he always looks sensational.

 

He was teaching acting - and he did die young.

 

My favorite film of his is "Susan Slade".

 

He impregnates Connie Stevens - and then dies!

 

How much punishment can one girl take?!

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Yes, they could have had children that were not public knowledge (illegitimate ones). Or they were "confirmed bachelors."

 

Whenever I hear "confirmed bachelors", which includes James Bond and all of his womanizing, I also think of "old maids". Even in the musical The Music Man, Shirley Jones' librarian gets slightly concerned when the girl she's training piano brings it up.

 

I watched The Lost Patrol yesterday when it aired again. Although the soldiers discussed women, you have to wonder how they got their all important "release" in the Mesopotamian desert circa 1917. (Ditto, the guys with Cousteau in The Silent World and Kon Tiki's crew.) Oh well... they mostly died by gunfire in the movie anyway, including prim and proper Boris Karloff.

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Recently I've been watching episodes of the Mr. Lucky TV series. John Vivyan, who resembles Cary Grant, plays the title role. He didn't go on to have a movie career and after 1970, his television appearances are rare. In one article online, he was supposedly Joan Crawford's date to the 1963 Oscars. But I didn't find any evidence he was married or had children. I'd like to know more about him.

 

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He's one of those TV stars who seems to have cultivated "anonymity".

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Grant Williams was such a beautiful man.

 

I've been collecting private photos of him.

 

And he is never with anybody but himself.

 

And he always looks sensational.

 

He was teaching acting - and he did die young.

 

My favorite film of his is "Susan Slade".

 

He impregnates Connie Stevens - and then dies!

 

How much punishment can one girl take?!

 

Not to mention how often his clothes get ripped apart as he shrinks in his most famous role. I just think, if this was sci fi "reality", he would just blanket himself with rags to keep warm but mostly romp around the basement and fight tarantulas nude.

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Not to mention how often his clothes get ripped apart as he shrinks in his most famous role. I just think, if this was sci fi "reality", he would just blanket himself with rags to keep warm but mostly romp around the basement and fight tarantulas nude.

A nude Grant Williams would've been too much to take for us gay guys.

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Gee, rayban. You must have had a rough time getting through the later Mysterious Island since it wasn't just the Ray Harryhausen special effects, but stars Michael Callan, Michael Craig and a post-Bette Davis Gary Merrill (plus two others getting less screen time) all struggling to keep their shirts on during their own life and death adventures. Good thing TWO women showed up so they could maintain their heterosexuality. One was OK milking the goats, but the other had to get frisky with the younger Mike Cee. (I think the actors were all straight off screen, but Kerwin Matthews in The 7th Voyage of Sinbad certainly wasn't although he was pretty convincing kissing Kathryn Grant.)

 

The Incredible Shrinking Man has frequently been discussed as a "gay themed" film, although the reasons are nebulous at best. Although there is nothing wrong with a couple waiting a while before having children, the wife's mention of being married for six years when they are on the boat is odd for 1956 standards of "normality", if not today. Back then, everybody was in such a hurry to pump out the kids right away and they do have a nice enough home to accommodate, so it is not like they are waiting merely to afford them. He also mentions on screen how much more difficult he is on her as a husband as he shrinks smaller in size, perhaps a reflection that he can't succeed sexually with her any more. Yet was this a new problem? She does look frustrated a lot, although he is somewhat affectionate on the boat (just so she will get that beer for him). Although he becomes famous with newspaper photographers prowling outside, he eventually gets lost in the basement and practically invisible like so many forced to stay in the closet. You do need to watch both this and Invasion of the Body Snatchers back to back in order to fully appreciate what the fifties were all about.

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I liked his work in the few films I have seen him in;  E.g.  Bad Day at Black Rock where he held his own in a cast full of great actors.

 

At least he got to work with Liz at a time when she one of the great beauties of Hollywood.  

Very nice man - I interviewed him years ago.

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I did not know he was on Guiding Light. He still looks AWESOME, though!

 

I put Bomer on this thread because, while he is in movies, (Magic Mike, Magic Mike XXL, The Nice Guys), he hasn't made the movie star transition yet. His time to make that transition, though, is short because he'll be 40 in October. Bomer is also one of my favorite actors.

 

I will check out rayban's thread when I have a chance.

 

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some of the men here are way too pretty for me, or too young.

 

This is more my style.

 

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I added some modern stars on purpose. I am at the age where I find both classic stars (Gregory Peck, Burt Lancaster) and modern stars (Chris Hemsworth, Matt Bomer) attractive. A classic film fan can also like NCIS: Los Angeles. Just sayin'.

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I gotta say Gardner McKay is pretty cute. Not Troy Donahue cute, but still....

 

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What a shame, he was not interested in a film career.

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This was probably discussed before. I have often wondered about Grant Williams, who never married or had relationships with women that were particularly well documented. The Incredible Shrinking Man is one of my personal favorites of the stressed-out fifties, the decade that also begot Invasion of the Body Snatchers (i.e. everybody becoming the same under McCarthyism, just not Kevin McCarthy) and Psycho, filmed at the close of the decade as an exclamation point to the Eisenhower Era's sexual suppression and forever linked in my mind by John Gavin asking "Why was he dressed like... that?".

 

d62f0dd4e37fbeb179197c40eeff5195.jpg

 

Here he is being all affectionate with wifie dear, only SHE is playing hard-to-get: http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/569124/Incredible-Shrinking-Man-The-Movie-Clip-To-The-Galley-Wench-.html

Was he gay?  His male beauty is very well used by Jack Arnold in the great " The Incredible Shrinking Man"

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Was he gay?  His male beauty is very well used by Jack Arnold in the great " The Incredible Shrinking Man"

 

Another take on him:

http://neptsdepths.blogspot.com/2010/09/incredibly-shrinking-career.html

 

Williams departure from the world of TV and movies has always been something of a mystery, not because he was a huge star, but because he was an actor who generally received good reviews for his work and seemed to have the right ingredients to have at least as successful career as some of his less talented peers who fared better.

 

He always denied that there was any friction with the studio chiefs, having never rejected a role or gone on suspension (perhaps he should have turned down a couple of those parts along the way!) Other accounts claim that he was a victim of homophobia, he being a lifelong bachelor who was rarely seen on dates whether for publicity or otherwise. For his part, he staunchly denied this. A devout Catholic, he stated that he would never even portray a homosexual (though there have been a lot of homosexuals who wouldn’t play one!)

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Another take on him:

http://neptsdepths.blogspot.com/2010/09/incredibly-shrinking-career.html

 

Williams departure from the world of TV and movies has always been something of a mystery, not because he was a huge star, but because he was an actor who generally received good reviews for his work and seemed to have the right ingredients to have at least as successful career as some of his less talented peers who fared better.

 

He always denied that there was any friction with the studio chiefs, having never rejected a role or gone on suspension (perhaps he should have turned down a couple of those parts along the way!) Other accounts claim that he was a victim of homophobia, he being a lifelong bachelor who was rarely seen on dates whether for publicity or otherwise. For his part, he staunchly denied this. A devout Catholic, he stated that he would never even portray a homosexual (though there have been a lot of homosexuals who wouldn’t play one!)

He was obviously a homosexual man; he was just so, so beautiful.

 

But a lot of homosexual men do not fare well within the studio system.

 

The constant spotlight is just too glaring.

 

Another example is Carlton Carpenter.

 

And, of course, there are plenty more.

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