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The Triumph of Donald Trump

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1 hour ago, noah80 said:

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so a GOP controlled senate is going to convict him and remove him from office?

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nobody is going to vote for a party that would bleep itself at the behest of it's opposition.

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39 minutes ago, NipkowDisc said:

so a GOP controlled senate is going to convict him and remove him from office?

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nobody is going to vote for a party that would bleep itself at the behest of it's opposition.

Unlike the GOP, a party that is bleeping itself at the behest of its criminally corrupt lying self-serving leader!!!!

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Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel in op-ed:
 
"Trump should not have been on the phone with a foreign head of state encouraging another country to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden.
 
Some Republicans are trying, but there’s no way to spin this..."
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Former Trump Supporter Says MAGA 'Insults' Snapped Him Out of 'Trance' of Supporting President

......The former Trump supporter, David Weissman, explained in a piece published Tuesday in The Independent that he was a conservative activist a couple of years before the 2016 presidential election and decided to vote for Trump without realizing "who Trump really was," because they seemed to want the same things for America.

Weissman, an Army veteran with more than 95,000 Twitter followers, wrote that he spent a couple of years defending Trump and calling media critical of the president "fake news," before realizing he "had always been aggressive and mean."

"I wanted to force my views on people. There was never a debate—I used insults and ad hominem attacks," Weissman wrote. "These tactics didn't get me anywhere."....

 

Weissman, who stopped supporting Trump in July 2018, has thrown his support to top-tier Democratic candidate Elizabeth Warren. The former Trump supporter does not agree with all of Warren's policies, but considers her "the strongest leader in the Democratic Party and can take on Trump."

"I appreciate her empathy for people of color and women, because their voices are often ignored," Weissman wrote. "I support her because she has a similar background as I did, being that she was originally conservative and she's now a liberal."

https://www.newsweek.com/former-trump-supporter-snapped-out-maga-1463021?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter

 

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Why democracy is crumbling in the West

People are increasingly relegating decision-making to the elites and limiting their democratic participation to voting.

".....The current state of the Anglo-Saxon world would certainly appear to suggest so.

Steeped in an ever-deepening constitutional crisis, courtesy of its 2016 referendum on leaving the European Union, the UK has installed a populist, Boris Johnson, as leader. On the other side of the Atlantic, the US is governed by a similarly incompetent populist, Donald Trump.

A famous quote from a 1920 article by US journalist Henry Mencken seems to adequately capture the situation: "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

Mencken believed that democratic competition would inevitably result in a race to the bottom and laid the blame on the ignorance and stupidity of the electorate. "The first and last aim of the politician," he wrote, "is to get votes, and the safest of all ways to get votes is to appear to the plain man to be a plain man like himself … "

....political supporters tend to behave very much like sports fans, less interested in the merits of arguments or how well the game is played than in whether their side wins.

If voters do not care about politics, why do they even bother to vote?

Much like going to a football game and cheering for your favourite team, voting allows people the vicarious satisfaction of participation without the hard work of getting onto the field and wrestling with the issues........

 

Populism is thus less a cause of democratic demise than it is a consequence of it. Western democracy has been crumbling from within for a long time as a result of the "tacit compact" between electorates and elites, where the former defer to the latter as long as they deliver economic growth and prosperity.

This has transformed democracy into a reality show, where elites compete over who gets a turn at the trough, while the media provides a running commentary and the public is reduced to watching on TV and casting votes for the winner........

 

Plato warned that "one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors".

To that we can now add the lesson from the ongoing political debacles in the US and the UK: the penalty for reducing democratic participation to mere voting is that you will be governed by "morons".

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/democracy-crumbling-west-191004073201364.html

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3 hours ago, mr6666 said:
 
 
Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel in op-ed:
 
"Trump should not have been on the phone with a foreign head of state encouraging another country to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden.
 
Some Republicans are trying, but there’s no way to spin this..."

A tactical signal?

That's what NBC's Benjy Sarlin thinks the op-ed was. "There's a pretty massive tactical signal here," Sarlin tweeted, "which is to pivot away from defending the behavior (which has been a brutal slog so far for those who've tried) and instead toward arguing impeachment goes too far."

BuzzFeed's Jon Passantino appeared to agree, tweeting Friday evening, "This is ultimately Tucker/Patel excusing away Trump's actions, fiercely advocating that he should not face any consequence for his actions and giving nervous Republicans cover: It's just Trump being Trump and that's what the voters wanted."

And CNN's Abby Phillip reacted to the column this way: "This is a pretty transparent effort to provide a roadmap for Republicans looking for a way to publicly condemn Trump's actions but still oppose impeachment. Their argument is: what Trump did is bad and corrupt but we are so close to the election that voters should decide."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/media/tucker-carlson-op-ed-ukraine-trump-impeachment/index.html

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15 hours ago, noah80 said:

A tactical signal?

That's what NBC's Benjy Sarlin thinks the op-ed was. "There's a pretty massive tactical signal here," Sarlin tweeted, "which is to pivot away from defending the behavior (which has been a brutal slog so far for those who've tried) and instead toward arguing impeachment goes too far."

BuzzFeed's Jon Passantino appeared to agree, tweeting Friday evening, "This is ultimately Tucker/Patel excusing away Trump's actions, fiercely advocating that he should not face any consequence for his actions and giving nervous Republicans cover: It's just Trump being Trump and that's what the voters wanted."

And CNN's Abby Phillip reacted to the column this way: "This is a pretty transparent effort to provide a roadmap for Republicans looking for a way to publicly condemn Trump's actions but still oppose impeachment. Their argument is: what Trump did is bad and corrupt but we are so close to the election that voters should decide."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/media/tucker-carlson-op-ed-ukraine-trump-impeachment/index.html

In effect, the Republican Party no longer exists.  It has been replaced by the cult of Trumpism and the elected members are fearful of offending Trump or the people who support him.  They are afraid that not defending Trump will mean they will lose their primaries in the future.

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Trump is the kid with his hand in the cookie jar – and Republicans know it

by Robert Reich, a former US secretary of labor, is professor of public policy at the University of California at Berkeley

Don’t assume the Senate won’t convict and remove a president who sees the danger and grows more desperate by the day

He’s been acting like the spoiled child who gets caught with his hand in the proverbial cookie jar – denying his hand was there, blaming the person who caught him, blaming the cookie jar, blaming the cookie, throwing a tantrum, daring his parents to do anything about it.

Trump’s off-the-wall accusations, tantrums and defiance illustrate the need for parental control. Pelosi and Schiff are the adults – somber and restrained. The more Trump is the out-of-control child, the more they look like responsible parents.

A majority of Americans now support his impeachment.

Trump refuses to allow any administration official to appear before the House committees considering impeachment. No matter, because Congress doesn’t need more evidence. The cookie is in plain sight. Everyone has seen Trump’s hand in the jar.

House Democrats will vote to impeach, but will Senate Republicans vote to convict? Until now that seemed implausible. Democrats hold 47 Senate seats. If they all vote to convict, 20 Republicans would have to join them in order to have the necessary two-thirds of the Senate.

What was implausible is now possible. If the vote were held in secret, says Republican strategist Mike Murphy, 30 Republicans would vote today for impeachment. Former Republican senator Jeff Flake puts the likely number at 35.

Will they go public? Twenty-three Republicans are up for re-election next fall. Most are from red states that support Trump. But in a few months they’ll be safe from primary challenges. They’ll be free to vote him out.

Trump remains hugely popular among Republican voters but most of them care more about the economy than about Trump, and the economy is slowing – in large part because of Trump’s trade wars.

The manufacturing sector is contracting. Spending on warehouses, offices and factories is falling. Agriculture is taking a big hit. A fifth of the economy is effectively in recession. In September, wage growth slowed to weakest pace in more than a year.

It’s still unlikely Trump will be pushed out of office before the 2020 election but the odds are rising by the day. And Trump knows it, which is causing him to behave more like a wild child who deserves to be impeached.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/05/donald-trump-impeachment-republicans-senate

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On 10/5/2019 at 11:39 AM, Arturo said:

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and of course the democrats help the poor and needy by seeing to it that as many women get abortions as possible thus evading the responsibilities of adulthood but it certainly is a nifty way to combat poverty...

less people = less poverty

:P

 

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2 hours ago, NipkowDisc said:

and of course the democrats help the poor and needy by seeing to it that as many women get abortions as possible thus evading the responsibilities of adulthood but it certainly is a nifty way to combat poverty...

less people = less poverty

:P

 

Having children poor women can’t afford, them deal with the GOP cutting the safety net is terrible.  Caring about children is just a GOP talking point, because this Administration condemns them to poverty, if not locking them in cages.

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Secretary of State Mike Pompeo:
 
"If we (Trump) need(s) another government's assistance, it's very reasonable to ask that government to say,
 
'Do you have any help that you can provide so we can protect  (Trump) the American people?'"
 
:rolleyes:  :lol:
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28 minutes ago, Arturo said:

Having children poor women can’t afford, them deal with the GOP cutting the safety net is terrible.  Caring about children is just a GOP talking point, because this Administration condemns them to poverty, if not locking them in cages.

Men against abortion who have been accused of sexual molestation and attempted rape. I call that hypocrisy.

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6 wild elephants fell over a treacherous waterfall in Thailand and died
 
after one of the herd, a 3-year-old, was swept away by the river and the others tried to save it,
national park officials said
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GOP, take note......... ;)
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1 minute ago, noah80 said:

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a fiery Trump!

Men in their golden years need to keep their cool.

Yelling,screaming, threatening to attack people, excitable bad temperaments can lead to all kinds of illnesses and health problems.

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15 hours ago, noah80 said:

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a fiery Trump!

Heh, let's not insult dragons!

15 hours ago, mr6666 said:
 
 
6 wild elephants fell over a treacherous waterfall in Thailand and died
 
after one of the herd, a 3-year-old, was swept away by the river and the others tried to save it,
national park officials said
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GOP, take note......... ;)

I realize this is supposed to be political satire or a joke, but I find it tasteless.  

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15 hours ago, Princess of Tap said:

Men in their golden years need to keep their cool.

Yelling,screaming, threatening to attack people, excitable bad temperaments can lead to all kinds of illnesses and health problems.

That’s ok.  The Liar-in-Chief will get his lying physician to again lie that he is in perfect health, and lie that he is not morbidly obese.  Trump lives in a Fool’s Paradise of his own making.

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Federal judge orders Trump to produce tax returns to Manhattan DA,
 
calling his argument that a president cannot even be investigated
 
“repugnant to the nation’s governmental structure and constitutional values.”
 
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Donald Trump’s Huge Conflict of Interest in Turkey

A businessman who allegedly helped the Iranians duck U.S. sanctions used to operate in one of the Istanbul towers bearing the name of the next American president.

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“I have a little conflict of interest ’cause I have a major, major building in Istanbul,” Trump said last year. “It’s a tremendously successful job. It’s called Trump Towers—two towers, instead of one, not the usual one, it’s two.”

Watchdogs that focus on ethics in government say that these business deals are especially sensitive due to the importance of Turkey to American interests—the county is a NATO member and a part of the coalition to fight ISIS......

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trumps-huge-conflict-of-interest-in-turkey?source=twitter&via=desktop

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49 minutes ago, mr6666 said:

Donald Trump’s Huge Conflict of Interest in Turkey

A businessman who allegedly helped the Iranians duck U.S. sanctions used to operate in one of the Istanbul towers bearing the name of the next American president.

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“I have a little conflict of interest ’cause I have a major, major building in Istanbul,” Trump said last year. “It’s a tremendously successful job. It’s called Trump Towers—two towers, instead of one, not the usual one, it’s two.”

Watchdogs that focus on ethics in government say that these business deals are especially sensitive due to the importance of Turkey to American interests—the county is a NATO member and a part of the coalition to fight ISIS......

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trumps-huge-conflict-of-interest-in-turkey?source=twitter&via=desktop

He's handing the region to Russia in return for the 2016 (and 2020) election.

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