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Trump's Appointments

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James Carville said that he doesn’t recall in his lifetime any party being as weak across the board as the Democratic Party. You would think that when a party faces such devastating losses over time but especially such a crushing defeat like this one to such a weak candidate like Donald Trump, there would be some introspection, some self-examination and there was almost none of that. There was a desire to just say that it was everybody else’s fault.


I was particularly disturbed by the way that they were casting and maligning essentially all of the people who had committed the sin of voting what they regarded as the wrong way by simply dismissing them all as primitive or troglodyte or racist or misogynist. Even though of course many of them are, many of them are not and even for the ones that do have that as part of their motive, there are independently of that a lot of long, deep trends that have destroyed the welfare and economic security of tens of millions of people and put them into a mindset where they want to destroy this system of authority that they blame. I think that is what caused Brexit and I think to a large degree that’s what’s caused Trump. It’s urgent that we think about what these policies are that have done that to these people: who it is, who has done it, what the reasons are and how to stop. Watching them blame the media or WikiLeaks or Putin or Jill Stein or whomever they could find seemed very clearly to be a way of avoiding that conversation. My piece was really about urging everybody to have that conversation.


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Presidential Terms that never reached the four years in the 20th Century--

 

 

* Franklin D Roosevelt

 

 

Did I miss his first three terms?

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Maybe James forgot the GOP circa Watergate. Bad scene.

But there is no permanent majority for either party, despite

what some folks think. You win some, you lose some. 2020--

All crackers all the time, though by then that might be fighting

the last war.

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Did I miss his first three terms?

Scsu--

 

I wasn't alive during World War II. But my mother told me that Roosevelt died during his last term in office. And they had a very big funeral. I believe she was telling me the truth.

 

So I couldn't tell you which term that was because I also he hear that he had more than two terms. But if you were alive then, maybe you can have the data on which term it was that he died in.

 

But whichever term it was - - he didn't live the entire four years of his last term and our man " the buck stops here" from Independence had to take over.

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Pence's ascension is in line with a recent trend toward influential vice presidents and appears similar to the last vice president who was handed the keys to a presidential transition: Dick Cheney.....

 

https://www.apnews.com/fbc87f70c8b84e588c1ae22690bc1a69/Pence's-transition-job-could-signal-key-role-in-White-House

 

http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2016/11/11/24687692/president-pence-is-happening

 

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Reese's Peanuts has been named Chief of Staff, while Steve Bannon has been named "senior counselor & chief strategist".

 

Let the good times roll.

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Reese's Peanuts has been named Chief of Staff, while Steve Bannon has been named "senior counselor & chief strategist".

 

Let the good times roll.

 

Anti-semitic white nationalist Steve Bannon will have an office in the White House. The Alt Right white supremacist has arrived.

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Anti-semitic white nationalist Steve Bannon will have an office in the White House. The Alt Right white supremacist has arrived.

 

By the way, when is the Klan's victory parade taking place?

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Christie was replaced by Pence when a snap audit showed that

30% of transition funds were being spent on pizza and hot wings.

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Christie was replaced by Pence when a snap audit showed that

30% of transition funds were being spent on pizza and hot wings.

Bannon's not all bad. He looks like he has rear end potential.

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Bannon's not all bad. He looks like he has rear end potential.

 

 

LOL! I havent seen him from BEHIND.........

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"when I’m president I’m going to allow Mike Pence to run foreign policy and domestic policy. I don’t want to be involved in these details, I’m not going to be involved in policy making. And then they said to him I think it was at a New York Times editorial board interview, well if Mike Pence is going to be running foreign policy and domestic policy, what are you going to be doing?

 

 And he said, “I’m going to be making America great again.”

 

But look at the people that he is going to be empowering. And by and large they are the traditional, hard, hawkish right wing members of the Republican Party because the more moderate people, as at least that term is understood in Republican politics, were the ones who were essentially radically against him.

 

Mike Pence is a Christian supremacist. He is as radical of a Christian as Mullah Mohammed Omar was radical in his interpretation of Islam as head of the Taliban. This is a guy whose primary view of himself in the world is as a Christian warrior. And Dick Cheney certainly was an ideological figure whose ideology was rooted in a warped reading of the Federalist Papers and a notion of America First. Pence is all of that, although a kind of dime store version of that when it comes to neocon ideology, but is more motivated by an idea that Christianity needs to be saved and needs to govern the world.....

 

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/12/dissecting-a-trump-presidency/

 

 

LMREO!!! He'll be running his business and leave the important details to others.........

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Scsu--

 

I wasn't alive during World War II. But my mother told me that Roosevelt died during his last term in office. And they had a very big funeral. I believe she was telling me the truth.

 

So I couldn't tell you which term that was because I also he hear that he had more than two terms. But if you were alive then, maybe you can have the data on which term it was that he died in.

 

But whichever term it was - - he didn't live the entire four years of his last term and our man " the buck stops here" from Independence had to take over.

FDR died very early into his fourth term.  His health was very poor during the "campaign" in 1944.

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Bannon's not all bad. He looks like he has rear end potential.

I haven't seen a full body shot of him, only his face.

Hey, wait a minute.

 

And 40% was being spent on Springsteen tickets and

memorabilia.

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Presidential Terms that never reached the four years in the 20th Century--

 

* William McKinley

 

* Warren Harding

 

* Franklin D Roosevelt

 

* John F Kennedy

 

* Richard Nixon

 

 

What we have here is a mixed bag - -

 

2 Democrats

 

3 Republicans

 

2 assassinations

 

2 deaths in office

 

1 resignation for fear of impeachment

 

 

-- So you see in modern history, we have had enough examples of not reaching that 4 years, so that it wouldn't be a stretch to ponder that Trump may not reach it either--

 

Especially considering that he's the oldest man to ever take office at 70 years of age.

Speculation of him being impeached is silly.  The Republicans in the House KNOW that if they offend Trump's people, they will be out of a job.  They will be primaried by someone much farther to the right who supports Trump.  Also, they believe they can influence him or at least get their initiatives passed and signed.

There is a possibility that they could harrass and frustrate him enough that he will say to heck with it and resign.

And 70 is the new 40.

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They said it would be easier to monitor Trump's conflict of interest business deals if he would release his taxes.  Now that he has no political opponent in an election he could release them.

Not going to happen re: his taxes.  Also, not sure, but there may not be any "conflict of interests" regulations for the president.  There are none in Constitution and Congress cannot pass laws to regulate the president.  There are provisions in Constitution prohibiting rewards, gains, etc. from foreign powers.

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I had heard the rumored possibility, but it just sounded too ridiculous to be serious. Perhaps that's the new normal, though. Trump is leaning toward John Bolton as Secretary of State.

 

That's right, one of the biggest jerks in GWB's administration, Bolton was the constantly sour-looking blowhard that notoriously verbally attacked and belittled his staffers and most anyone else around him. He was named our representative to the UN, which makes sense in Right-Wing Land, since Bolton had made a name for himself calling for the disbanding of the UN. By all reports he did little to strengthen America's ties around the world back then, and even worsened some. So naturally Trump wants to make him our Chief Diplomat.

 

John Bolton, a man so frightening that he scared his own mustache white.

 

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Let the good times roll!

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I had heard the rumored possibility, but it just sounded too ridiculous to be serious. Perhaps that's the new normal, though. Trump is leaning toward John Bolton as Secretary of State.

 

That's right, one of the biggest jerks in GWB's administration, Bolton was the constantly sour-looking blowhard that notoriously verbally attacked and belittled his staffers and most anyone else around him. He was named our representative to the UN, which makes sense in Right-Wing Land, since Bolton had made a name for himself calling for the disbanding of the UN. By all reports he did little to strengthen America's ties around the world back then, and even worsened some. So naturally Trump wants to make him our Chief Diplomat.

 

John Bolton, a man so frightening that he scared his own mustache white.

 

 

 

Let the good times roll!

 

Bolton is a moron as well as a war-m-o-n-g-e-r.     Poor choice for SOS.  

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I had heard the rumored possibility, but it just sounded too ridiculous to be serious. Perhaps that's the new normal, though. Trump is leaning toward John Bolton as Secretary of State.

 

That's right, one of the biggest jerks in GWB's administration, Bolton was the constantly sour-looking blowhard that notoriously verbally attacked and belittled his staffers and most anyone else around him. He was named our representative to the UN, which makes sense in Right-Wing Land, since Bolton had made a name for himself calling for the disbanding of the UN. By all reports he did little to strengthen America's ties around the world back then, and even worsened some. So naturally Trump wants to make him our Chief Diplomat.

 

John Bolton, a man so frightening that he scared his own mustache white.

 

Let the good times roll!

One problem Trump has is that he does not have a good selection of candidates for any position.  His campaign was made up of 2nd and 3rd stringers in politics and his surrogates and staffers.  He has to reward them and he has to select people his "team" will approve of.  Very few good choices.

Besides what really qualified person would want to serve in an administration knowing that Trump is going to defer to certain people in all matters and those people will override the cabinet members and agency heads.

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I just read another article about the behind-the-scenes in-fighting going on in Trump's camp already. One side, led by Rinsed Peanut, wants all establishment Republican choices for cabinet jobs. The other faction, led by Steve Bannon, wants more radical hard-right choices.

 

Bolton is no longer a done deal as Sec of State. Now Guiliani is being floated for that post, as they want AG to go to Jeff Sessions. I also heard on the radio today that Florida AG Pam Bondi, she of the "bribes for dropping the TrumpU lawsuit", has been made part of the transition team, and will likely have a cabinet position. Florida governor Rick "Voldemort" Scott is also being talked up for a position, and as the former head of a hospital conglomerate responsible for the largest Medicare fraud in US history, he'll fit right in. Others think he may just wait and try to unseat longtime Florida Democrat Bill Nelson from his senate seat in 2018.

 

An anonymous source inside the transition talks describes them as a "knife fight" and "buffoonery". 

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Bad idea, find someone else, his views are clearly documented. Gingrich had to make an outrageous comment in that Bannon cannot be Anti Semite because he worked in the finance and Hollywood industry. That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/washingtonians-and-global-leaders-react-steve-bannons-appointment-to-the-white-house/

 

Damn, he looks like Micheal Moore's drinking buddy. :blink:

 

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This is a very entertaining and eye-opening Washington Post story.  It should certainly make one think twice about ever voting for a rank amateur again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/11/14/the-trump-administration-hasnt-even-started-yet-and-its-already-a-fiasco/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw5&wpmm=1

The Trump administration hasn’t even started yet, and it’s already a fiasco

 

Some little bits but one should read the entire short article ...

And as it begins to take shape, Trump’s administration is looking like some kind of mash-up of “Being There” and “American History X,” with just the combination of cluelessness and malice that you would have expected.

 

During their private White House meeting on Thursday, [President] Obama walked his successor through the duties of running the country, and Mr. Trump seemed surprised by the scope, said people familiar with the meeting. Trump aides were described by those people as unaware that the entire presidential staff working in the West Wing had to be replaced at the end of Mr. Obama’s term.

The man ran for president for a year and a half, and is surprised that the presidency is such a big job. Meanwhile, his aides were under the impression that the Obama staffers would stick around and be working for them now.

This is appalling, but it shouldn’t be surprising. Those of us who actually contemplated a Trump presidency during the campaign were particularly disturbed not just by Trump’s ignorance, but also by the fact that it was accompanied by a certainty that he knew everything he needed to know, despite the fact that he knew virtually nothing.

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For those who wish to take comfort in the idea that the Donald will surround himself with good people to run the government it might be worth remembering that he staffed his Trump University with salesmen who had false credentials and no or little experience.

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