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On ‎11‎/‎2‎/‎2017 at 2:43 PM, mr6666 said:

but her 'crocodile tears' over Bernie is just insulting!

A naked play to get progressives to stop hating her.

They won't.

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Clinton Campaign Had Additional Signed Agreement With DNC In 2015

"....... In addition to that joint fundraising agreement the DNC reached with both campaigns, the party and the Clinton campaign struck that separate memorandum of understanding giving the campaign staffing and policy oversight. ....

... Sanders' 2016 campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, said the agreement was the latest evidence the DNC tried to tip the scales against his candidate. ...

"I think the DNC should apologize to the millions and millions of people who put their heart and souls into the campaign on both sides, frankly," Weaver told MSNBC Friday. "There are many people who campaigned for Hillary believing it was a fair process. It was not a fair process. And those people are the people who the Democratic Party has to re-establish faith with — the people, the rank and file of this party — allied, independents and other people." ...

Read the full memo, obtained by NPR from a Democratic source: .....

http://www.npr.org/2017/11/03/561976645/clinton-campaign-had-additional-signed-agreement-with-dnc-in-2015

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3 hours ago, darkblue said:

A naked play to get progressives to stop hating her.

They won't.

She also is talking to try to boast her book sales.

All I see that she has accomplished so far is being hated by progressive and the Dem establishment.    

Anderson Cooper just ripped her a big one for her stunt of giving out questions to Clinton for the Clinton \ Sanders debate.          

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Have Democrats learned their lesson? There’s reason for hope.

... a group of Democratic and progressive activists last week published “Autopsy: The Democratic Party in Crisis.” While the 33-page report covers a range of issues, it offers a particularly harsh indictment of the party’s self-defeating attempts to simultaneously please its billionaire backers and the working-class voters who make up the Democratic base.

“Corporate domination over the party’s agenda — and, perhaps more importantly, the perception of corporate control over the party’s agenda — rendered the Democrats’ messaging on economic issues ideologically rudderless and resulted in a decline in support among working-class people across racial lines,” the autopsy states. “We live in a time of unrest and justified cynicism towards those in power; Democrats will not win if they continue to bring a wonk knife to a populist gunfight.”

....Despite these reminders of the party’s ongoing failures, the past year has provided some reasons for hope. Since the election, it has been inspiring to watch members of a new generation find their voices and provide the bold leadership that Democrats desperately need. Progressive organizations including Our Revolution, Indivisible, the Working Families Party and People’s Action have kept activists across the country engaged and mobilized. Women have sustained the incredible energy that fueled the historic Women’s March in January, with thousands of potential female candidates expressing interest in running for office. Under the national radar, progressive populist candidates, many of them inspired by the Sanders campaign, have prevailed in state and local elections.

 

Amid the chaos in Washington, there have been a few positive developments in Congress as well. Progressive stalwarts in both chambers are ascendant. On core economic issues, the party establishment is slowly moving to the left......

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/have-democrats-learned-their-lesson-theres-reason-for-hope/2017/11/07/cab3e78c-c315-11e7-aae0-cb18a8c29c65_story.html?utm_term=.bea56ca51b63&tid=sm_tw

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2 hours ago, mr6666 said:

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Have Democrats learned their lesson? There’s reason for hope.

... a group of Democratic and progressive activists last week published “Autopsy: The Democratic Party in Crisis.” While the 33-page report covers a range of issues, it offers a particularly harsh indictment of the party’s self-defeating attempts to simultaneously please its billionaire backers and the working-class voters who make up the Democratic base.

“Corporate domination over the party’s agenda — and, perhaps more importantly, the perception of corporate control over the party’s agenda — rendered the Democrats’ messaging on economic issues ideologically rudderless and resulted in a decline in support among working-class people across racial lines,” the autopsy states. “We live in a time of unrest and justified cynicism towards those in power; Democrats will not win if they continue to bring a wonk knife to a populist gunfight.”

....Despite these reminders of the party’s ongoing failures, the past year has provided some reasons for hope. Since the election, it has been inspiring to watch members of a new generation find their voices and provide the bold leadership that Democrats desperately need. Progressive organizations including Our Revolution, Indivisible, the Working Families Party and People’s Action have kept activists across the country engaged and mobilized. Women have sustained the incredible energy that fueled the historic Women’s March in January, with thousands of potential female candidates expressing interest in running for office. Under the national radar, progressive populist candidates, many of them inspired by the Sanders campaign, have prevailed in state and local elections.

 

Amid the chaos in Washington, there have been a few positive developments in Congress as well. Progressive stalwarts in both chambers are ascendant. On core economic issues, the party establishment is slowly moving to the left......

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/have-democrats-learned-their-lesson-theres-reason-for-hope/2017/11/07/cab3e78c-c315-11e7-aae0-cb18a8c29c65_story.html?utm_term=.bea56ca51b63&tid=sm_tw

The polling data released yesterday doesn't support this optimist view of the Dem party.

Frankly I believe it will be very difficult for progressive \ Sanders supporters to trust the Dem party established especially since the truth is now coming out about the corruption in the DNC.  

 

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That video is as important to watch as any posted anywhere in these forums.

The two-Party system has become an utter failure for the people.

If this knowledge helps to start a third Party, it'll be the best thing to happen to the country ever.

 

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ChristieCone.jpg

He's outrageous, he screams and he bawls,

Chris Christie, you've just been let go.

 

Don't let the door hit your fat keister on the way out, that is if you can fit through the door.

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On 11/7/2017 at 7:57 PM, jamesjazzguitar said:

The polling data released yesterday doesn't support this optimist view of the Dem party.

Frankly I believe it will be very difficult for progressive \ Sanders supporters to trust the Dem party established especially since the truth is now coming out about the corruption in the DNC.  

 

Ironically the "mainstream" Democratic candidate won in Virginia even after the "progressive/liberal" Dems. abandoned him.

However, the victories in VA, NJ, etc. may not be that significant when you consider the steep climb to 2018.  Too many Dems. in Senate running in contested areas compared to very few GOPers in safe seats.  And gerrymandering pretty much insures GOP control of House lacking a major screw up by the Republicans.

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