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43 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

The Roberts were not trying to predict the future General election but instead influence the Dem Primary to ensure a self described socialist doesn't represent the party.  

As far as Dems ignoring Trump;  nothing could be further from reality.   E.g. the Dems that have declared they are running for the nomination are mostly attacking Trump and saying why they would be a better President than Trump,  instead of saying why they are better than the other Dems.

Note that the Emanual article stresses the same line;   don't attack each other,  don't try to settle major policies differences during the primary campaign.    Of course this is just wishful BS thinking from the DNC.   

 

 

The posts re: the Dems ignoring Trump was for the 2016 election - not the one coming up.  Regardless, the Roberts are correct at this point and it is never to early to build a winning foundation for an election.  A point upon which you agree.

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5 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

The Roberts were not trying to predict the future General election but instead influence the Dem Primary to ensure a self described socialist doesn't represent the party.  

As far as Dems ignoring Trump;  nothing could be further from reality.   E.g. the Dems that have declared they are running for the nomination are mostly attacking Trump and saying why they would be a better President than Trump,  instead of saying why they are better than the other Dems.

Note that the Emanual article stresses the same line;   don't attack each other,  don't try to settle major policies differences during the primary campaign.    Of course this is just wishful BS thinking from the DNC.   

 

 

I doubt a self-described socialist will be the Dem party candidate for president in 2020.

They seemed to focus a lot on AOC, but there's not much the Dems can do about her.

Sure the primary candidates will attack each other, they always do. That rarely has any

effect in the general election.

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14 hours ago, Vautrin said:

I doubt a self-described socialist will be the Dem party candidate for president in 2020.

They seemed to focus a lot on AOC, but there's not much the Dems can do about her.

Sure the primary candidates will attack each other, they always do. That rarely has any

effect in the general election.

I agree that Bernie isn't likely to win the Dem nomination,  but many other Dems,  E.g. Harris,  have taken up his platform,  clearly many Dems running have moved to the left.      If to win states like CA (which I believe will be THE major factor in the primary since CA moved its primary from June to March),  Dems have to move even more to the left on all issues (e.g. immigration,  abortion even after viability etc...),   and a Dem that stated those views during the debates is the winner,   that Dem will likely lose those same battleground states that Clinton lost.     

It really is very basic;  what it takes to win the Dem primaries in CA, NY,  and other blue-blue states is what will cause voters in those battleground states to vote GOP.   So the Dem candidate will again receive more popular votes but lose the election.

 

 

 

   

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6 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

I agree that Bernie isn't likely to win the Dem nomination,  but many other Dems,  E.g. Harris,  have taken up his platform,  clearly many Dems running have moved to the left.      If to win states like CA (which I believe will be THE major factor in the primary since CA moved its primary from June to March),  Dems have to move even more to the left on all issues (e.g. immigration,  abortion even after viability etc...),   and a Dem that stated those views during the debates is the winner,   that Dem will likely lose those same battleground states that Clinton lost.     

It really is very basic;  what it takes to win the Dem primaries in CA, NY,  and other blue-blue states is what will cause voters in those battleground states to vote GOP.   So the Dem candidate will again receive more popular votes but lose the election.

 

 

 

   

Since we don't yet know who the nominee will be or what their positions will be, we

don't know how far to the left they will or won't be. But yes, too far left will likely be a

loser in a general election, even against a dope like Donny.

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Democratic super PAC launches $50 million effort to weaken Trump with core supporters

The American Bridge group is expanding its budget nearly three-fold to target Midwest white working-class voters.

 

"We understand that we may not win these voters back entirely, but if we don't make inroads into these areas, we will win the popular vote, lose the Electoral College, and the Senate could be lost for a decade," the group wrote in a memo to prospective donors ..........

will go toward a massive paid advertising campaign on TV, digital, and radio, officials said, as well as other efforts to persuade rural and exurban voters in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania — with the possible addition of Florida — that Trump has been harmful for their economic interests. .........

"If you want to win the election, you cannot afford to get beat 85-15 in northern Wisconsin, in western Pennsylvania, in north Florida," he said. "I don't dislike rural whites, I'm one, too. Why are we writing them off? That's not only politically stupid, I also think it's immoral." .........

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/democratic-super-pac-launches-50-million-effort-weaken-trump-core-n985571?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

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