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Trump’s Core Voters Stand Out For Their Support Of Family Separation

The president’s earliest backers hold a nativist streak that distinguishes them even from other Republicans.

..........the latest addition to an already sizable body of evidence that the core group of voters who propelled Trump to the GOP nomination hold a nativist streak that distinguishes them even from other Republicans. The president’s initial backers, researchers have found, were considerably more likely than other Republicans to consider immigration a very important issue and to hold hostile attitudes toward immigrants.

As the rest of the YouGov/Economist poll shows, that divide has persisted since the 2016 primaries. GOP primary voters, as a whole, take hard-line views against undocumented immigrants, but the president’s earliest supporters are among the most likely to do so.

Trump primary voters are also notably averse to legal immigrants: They’re nearly twice as likely as other GOP primary voters to say that the government should curb legal immigration, and that immigration has made the U.S. worse off.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-voters-family-separation-poll_us_5b293726e4b0f0b9e9a5d72e?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067

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On ‎11‎/‎28‎/‎2016 at 7:19 PM, Princess of Tap said:

What in the World is the Matter with Some Trump Supporters? Are They Crazy?

I don't know if they're crazy or not - the only thing I know for sure is that Clinton supporters are the most pathetic species alive now.

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1 hour ago, jakeem said:

All these Trump stans keep calling Maxine Waters crazy, but they idolize a conspiracy theorist who sees imaginary crowds and uses fake personalities.

 

1 hour ago, jakeem said:

Maxine Waters calls for protesters to confront Trump officials in public: "Tell them they're not welcome anymore" http://hill.cm/ysWir6g 

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It's easy to scare poorly educated people.

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Sorry, I didn't back-read this entire thread...

I had heard a story on NPR right after this election that illustrated the psychology of loyalty when it comes to supporting a candidate. Apparently, once a person decides who they like -and identify with-they stick with them. It doesn't matter how bad any reports are about their behaviour, they just brush it off as "propaganda" from the opposing side.

I was surprised this goes BOTH WAYS: it didn't matter if you were a Hillary supporter or Trump supporter, it's just the way the human mind works. If you believed Hillary was the best candidate, you focused on her strength & experience and pooh-poohed her "email scandal" and other accusations.
If you believed Trump was the best candidate, you focused on his claims to represent "everyman" and pooh-poohed his "sexist scandal" and other accusations.

So even though there is tons of actual footage of Trump making conflicting statements (like last weeks immigration "executive order") his supporters will continue to believe him and make excuses as to why this isn't lying. It's just human nature apparently.

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1 hour ago, TikiSoo said:

Sorry, I didn't back-read this entire thread...

I had heard a story on NPR right after this election that illustrated the psychology of loyalty when it comes to supporting a candidate. Apparently, once a person decides who they like -and identify with-they stick with them. It doesn't matter how bad any reports are about their behaviour, they just brush it off as "propaganda" from the opposing side.

I was surprised this goes BOTH WAYS: it didn't matter if you were a Hillary supporter or Trump supporter, it's just the way the human mind works. If you believed Hillary was the best candidate, you focused on her strength & experience and pooh-poohed her "email scandal" and other accusations.
If you believed Trump was the best candidate, you focused on his claims to represent "everyman" and pooh-poohed his "sexist scandal" and other accusations.

So even though there is tons of actual footage of Trump making conflicting statements (like last weeks immigration "executive order") his supporters will continue to believe him and make excuses as to why this isn't lying. It's just human nature apparently.

Since I'm not in either category, I don't know if I could agree with that personally.  But that may be true for a lot of people.

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50 minutes ago, jakeem said:

A Latino man and his mother who were doing yard work in California were verbally attacked by a woman who called them "illegals" and "rapists"

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/26/us/woman-berates-man-viral-rant-don-lemon-cnntv/index.html?utm_content=2018-06-26T07%3A38%3A22&utm_term=link&utm_source=twCNN&utm_medium=social

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Some of these trump supporters sure are some ignorant trashy son of a guns.

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My observation is there still are plenty of people who smoke cigarettes, eat copious amounts of fried, processed foods and drive huge bloated vehicles.

Not uninformed, just concerned with "me" and "now" instead of the big picture.

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45 minutes ago, jakeem said:

Scary. A constituent just confronted me and told me I support open borders. I told her that’s not true and I’ve never said that. She said “@FoxNews said you do.” Guys, this is what we are up against. We aren’t battling ideology. We’re battling misinformation.

 Not misinformation-- outright lies from Fox and acceptance by the bigoted-brainwashed audience.

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55 minutes ago, jakeem said:

These kids at Trump's Montana rally said one of the most important things they want the president to do is build his border wall because Mexicans are “overpopulating us"

Image result for kids at montana trump rally

 

54 minutes ago, jakeem said:

West Wing Reports Retweeted BuzzFeed News

Sad when hatred and ignorance are passed from one generation to the next

" You've got to be taught before it's too late,

  Before you are six or seven or eight,

   To hate all the people your relatives hate,

    You've got to be carefully taught!"

 

Oscar Hammerstein II,  South Pacific

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1 hour ago, jakeem said:

A store manager called the police on a black woman because he wrongly thought she used a fake coupon. The manager was a state delegate for Donald Trump.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/black-woman-says-cvs-manager-called-police-because-she-had-wrong-coupon/amp/

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White CVS store manager who calls police on black customer alleging fraudulent coupon--

Was accused of forging signatures on a petition by the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners in 2016.

 

What stupid thing will a trump supporter do next?

 

Morry Matson, a white CVS store manager in Chicago, called the police on a female black customer who tried to use a coupon.

Matson judged that the coupon was fraudulent and he called the police as his hands shook. 

Then three police officers showed up to handle the coupon situation.

The upside was that the manufacturer's coupon was legitimate and CVS had to apologize to the lady.

 

The downside of it is that the shakey store manager is a documented trump supporter, who was a trump State Delegate in the 2016 election. Currently Matson is also running for alderman in the 48th Ward on a platform of Law & Order. Maybe Matson thought the Law & Order should start with the black woman with the coupon. LOL

 The internet has already nicknamed this guy,  "Coupon Carl".

 

When Matson is not calling the police on a black customer with a coupon that he has never seen before,

He serves as the president of the Log Cabin Republicans of Illinois, a conservative political organization promoting LGBTQ rights within the Republican Party.

Sources: Chicago Tribune, Chicago Sun-Times, The Root

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4 hours ago, jakeem said:

Trump’s base is being conditioned to accept a dangerous new syllogism: It’s good for America that Trump defeated Clinton. So whoever helped Trump win — including Putin — is good. So it’s dumb to worry about whether Trump colluded with Putin to win: even if he did, that’d be fine.

It's a very Faustian concept. But I doubt that trump's base, base supporters ever heard of Faust, Goethe or Marlowe.

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9 hours ago, jakeem said:

“If Trump wasn’t president, you wouldn’t even have a job!"

Home Depot customer goes on racist rant, black employee loses job for responding

Update: Home Depot has miraculously seen the light and decided to offer the ten-year employee his job back.

 https://trib.al/jDh80pF 

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Black Home Depot employee racially harassed by trump supporter for doing his job.

Racism seems to be a common denominator for trump supporters.

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Southern Nationalist Group Creates Russian Language Website Page To Foster Relationship Between the 'Two Natural Allies'

 

"........ "We understand that the Russian people and Southerners are natural allies in blood, culture, and religion," Michael Hill, the league's president, wrote in a letter addressed to "our Russian friends." The note was published online on July 17 - a day after President Donald Trump met with, and praised, Russian leader Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, Finland.  ...

The Alabama-based group defines itself as a "Southern nationalist organization", with chapters in 16 states, committed to preserving white, Christian culture. But it has been called a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks white nationalists and other domestic threats. 

The letter posted by the group says that the South and Russia are "two natural allies" against threats of globalism and mass migration. 

 

"As fellow Whites of northern European extraction, we come from the same general gene pool. As inheritors of the European cultural tradition, we share similar values, customs, and ways of life. And as Christians, we worship the same Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and our common faith binds us as brothers and sisters," Hill wrote....

 

...Analysts say that there is a growing alliance between Russia, white nationalists, and the movement that propelled President Trump to power. 

"The current Russian government, which is a very important government, cites figures who are unambiguously fascist and Nazi," historian Timothy Snyder said in a recent interview with Public Books.

"This is an extreme example of a general trend: Steve Bannon cites Julius Evola," Snyder said, speaking of an Italian writer linked to fascism,

 "Donald Trump speaks of “America First,” and so on. There’s been a kind of renaissance of the 1930s which has crept up on us."

https://www.newsweek.com/league-south-white-nationalism-russia-language-page-donald-trump-vladimir-1035916

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The QAnon Conspiracy Has Stumbled Into Real Life, And It’s Not Going To End Well

On June 15, when he packed his AR-15 and drove an armored vehicle onto the bridge near Hoover Dam, Matthew Wright had a mission. He’d gleaned it from a berserk conspiracy theory that circulates mainly online, and now here he was, offline, near a very real dam, with a not-at-all-virtual rifle.

As he blocked traffic, he held up a sign. “Release the OIG report,” it read. He wanted the same thing that so many others that subscribe to the all-encompassing QAnon conspiracy theory want: some sort of proof of a “deep state” conspiracy, run by the liberal elite and Hollywood, to commit and then cover up an array of atrocities, from child sex trafficking to false-flag shootings. And they thought they would find at least some damning evidence in the Department of Justice’s inspector general report on the FBI’s handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation.

The report he was looking for had actually been released the day before, and it didn’t have any of the information he and the rest of the QAnon followers sought. Of course, the theory’s adherents believe there’s another inspector general’s report they haven’t seen, one with all the “true” information, and they’ll fight to get it.

On the day he was arrested in Arizona on a variety of federal charges, Wright was acting as a soldier for “Q.” That’s the handle of an anonymous poster on equally anonymous message boards 4chan and 8chan and on Reddit since late last year. In letters Wright wrote from jail, intended for President Donald Trump and various government offices, he signed off with the QAnon motto: “For where we go one, we go all.” He also referred to a “Great Awakening,” another likely allusion to QAnon.

Nobody was harmed in the bridge standoff. But Wright’s crusade, along with a handful of other recent incidents, gives us an idea of what QAnon looks like when it emerges from its online cave, blinking in the sun. And it’s a little terrifying.

As conspiracies go, QAnon isn’t even faintly plausible. It’s every conspiracy, all at once, an orchestra tune-up of theories. It involves Hollywood, former presidents and the Democratic Party joining up to commit various heinous crimes. And on the other side is an anonymous hero named Q, who claims to have high-level government clearance.

A surface-level glance at QAnon threads on Reddit, 4chan and 8chan will make you cringe well before it’ll scare you. In one post, commenters wondered whether Q was winking at them by making the lights flicker during President Trump’s White House speech last week. The post reads in earnest: “What if the lights going out during the press conference was... the cue(Q)?” 

In another, a Redditor used one of Q’s posts to surmise that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton’s entire family fabricated the Parkland, Florida, school massacre to “advance the anti-2nd agenda.” Commenters agreed and expressed their anger with all the maturity and expertise of a high school film studies class.

“It’s just like watching V for Vendetta in how the people would trade away their freedom for security,” one commenter wrote.

“The more I’m reading about the Q posts, the more it brings me back to that movie,” said another. “False flags, under-age exploitation, and a top level conspiracy even among a major religion.”

There are hundreds of these posts. Choose any conspiracy you like ― false-flag shootings, underground child sex dungeons run by elite predators, unreleased Justice Department reports that, if made public, would put Hillary Clinton in jail ― and you’ll find them being discussed on QAnon forums.

The Daily Beast’s Will Sommer wrote a great primer on the theory. It essentially goes like this: “Q” started posting weird messages on 4chan last November, leaving “breadcrumbs” for the online masses to find evidence that several top Democrats are about to be sent to Guantanamo Bay, special counsel Robert Mueller is actually investigating Hillary Clinton, etc. Nobody knows who “Q” actually is, and there’s no evidence that the person (or persons) posting under that handle has (or have) any high-level security clearance.

It’s easy to roll your eyes at the QAnon conspiracy theory, in much the same way it was easy to dismiss Pizzagaters as a bunch of lunatics — right up until the moment one of them, Edgar Welch, showed up in Comet Ping Pong pizza parlor in Washington, demanded to know where the child sex dungeon was and fired an assault rifle.

Thus ended Pizzagate, the real-world violence shattering the suspension of disbelief that had sustained the theory online. Even after Wright’s arrest in Arizona, QAnon has continued apace, undeterred by the fact that the “OIG report” he demanded had already been released, to the great disappointment of Q’s followers.

QAnon adherents are on a collective scavenger hunt of sorts ― the goal varies from unearthing conspiracies between politicians and Hollywood brass to finding a group of elite pedophiles in the desert. In Tucson, a group called Veterans on Patrol, with the backing of QAnon online, is hunting for pedophiles after it stumbled on a homeless shelter in May and decided it was a secret site for child sex trafficking. As Motherboard reports, it is not ― police found no evidence of such trafficking ― but the group is patrolling Interstate 19 in Arizona and demands that police declare a state of emergency. It also posted the QAnon 8chan thread to its Facebook page, asking for the internet’s help in finding the elusive, and nonexistent, pedophiles. A QAnon Reddit post says it is “prepping for battle.”

Of course, another real-life QAnon mission brings another arrest. The founder of Veterans on Patrol, Michael Lewis Arthur Meyer, was collared on Sunday after sheriff’s deputies saw a YouTube video in which he was rifling through private property in his hunt for nonexistent pedophiles. He was arrested on suspicion of trespassing, along with a charge of failure to appear in court on July 17 for an unrelated assault charge. 

Meyer is the perfect QAnon soldier ― committed enough to put his boots on and go LARPing through the desert, unhinged enough to believe that a homeless camp he finds is a child sex-trafficking dungeon and savvy enough to disseminate his findings online to likeminded people. He is too extreme even for some extremists. Meyer and his group were kicked out of the occupation party at a federal building in Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in 2016 after militants accused him of walking in and assaulting a disabled Vietnam veteran.

“I do believe Lewis [Meyer] is a Paid Provocateur by the Fed’s to divide and destroy,” militant group member Blaine Cooper wrote in a Facebook post at the time. Writer J.J. MacNab points out that Meyer was also tossed off of Cliven Bundy’s ranch in Nevada during the standoff over defaulted grazing fees there.

As the Arizona Daily Star reports, Meyer has accused any number of businesses of child sex-trafficking ― various farms and ranches, a building materials company, a mining company, etc. ― their only crime being that they’re in relative proximity to Agua Blanca Ranch, where he uncovered what he thought was a den of illicit activity involving kids.

“What jumped out at me was their ignorance of what things really were. The cooling towers that they were calling watchtowers. Maps being on the wall, which they called a command center. Children’s rooms — that it was something we had created to hold children in. It just seemed ridiculous,” David Cathcart, caretaker of the ranch, told the Daily Star. “They’ve got a hell of a lot better imagination than I do.”

For QAnon, wild imaginations drive the bus. And some of those imaginations are the loudest people on the internet.

Reliable loons Roseanne Barr, former Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling and Minecraft creator (and Pizzagate supporter) Markus “Notch” Persson have all signed on. Barr and Persson, for instance, tweeted out abbreviations of the QAnon slogan, “Where we go one, we go all,” to millions of followers. And, of course, Infowars’ resident nut Alex Jones is involved ― he said in January that the White House called on him and his team of dinguses to investigate QAnon.

There are so many conspiracy theories under the QAnon umbrella now that anything and everything can feel like a dog whistle to its followers. Recently, followers latched on to Hollywood director James Gunn. Gunn was fired by Disney last week after alt-right troll Mike Cernovich helped surface old tweets in which he joked about pedophilia and rape. Underlying the fake-outrage campaign was the QAnon-friendly notion that Hollywood is lousy with pedophiles. Even Sen. Ted Cruz got in on the fun. 

“Q” hasn’t posted anything since July 4, leaving those followers frantic for something to do. If the unhinged LARPing of Wright and Meyer is any indication, that something could easily tip over into violence. 

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/qanon-conspiracy-real-life_us_5b54bbafe4b0b15aba8fe484

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