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22 hours ago, mr6666 said:

Seth AbramsonVerified account @SethAbramson

 

(THREAD) Pre-election Russia collusion may take down Trump.

It's equally possible the Trumps' pre- and post-election collusion with Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Israel will do it

—a course of collusion also connected to the Kremlin. I explain here. ......

 

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Russia is allied with Iran and Syria- which are opposed to and fighting all those countries. This is reaching the point where random countries are just being thrown into these allegations now.

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Judge in Russia Case Says Collusion Could Be Enough for Criminal Charge

 

"......it’s the statute of Conspiracy to Defraud the United States.

“This court ruling should drive another nail in the coffin of the argument that collusion is not a crime. It clearly can be, and the crime is conspiracy – even if no other independent criminal violations are identified,” wrote Randall Eliason, a former federal prosecutor and lecturer at George Washington Law School. 

 “Mueller’s use of that theory in his Russian social media indictment is a textbook example of a 371 conspiracy to defraud the U.S., and that theory has now been validated by the trial judge’s ruling.”.........

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/bad-news-for-trump-judge-in-russia-case-says-collusion-could-be-enough-for-criminal-charge/

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On November 21, 2018 at 11:27 PM, Gershwin fan said:

Russia is allied with Iran and Syria- which are opposed to and fighting all those countries. This is reaching the point where random countries are just being thrown into these allegations now.

Russia, the Israelis and Saudi Arabia.  They all had reason to want Trump* in the WH.  And apparently all offered illegal assistance (perhaps independent of each other and by different methods).

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4 hours ago, Bogie56 said:

Russia, the Israelis and Saudi Arabia.  They all had reason to want Trump* in the WH.  And apparently all offered illegal assistance (perhaps independent of each other and by different methods).

Do you really think Assad and Hezbollah's #1 supporter is allied with Israel and Saudi Arabia? (which is specifically what the article is implying. That these countries at conflict with one another worked together)

https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Russias-support-to-Syria-has-spurred-Iran-to-ship-more-weapons-to-Hizbullah-569936

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3 hours ago, Gershwin fan said:

Do you really think Assad and Hezbollah's #1 supporter is allied with Israel and Saudi Arabia? (which is specifically what the article is implying. That these countries at conflict with one another worked together)

https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Russias-support-to-Syria-has-spurred-Iran-to-ship-more-weapons-to-Hizbullah-569936

In my comment I said they all had motives for wanting Trump* in the WH but for reasons independent of one another.

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On 11/23/2018 at 12:19 PM, jakeem said:

BREAKING: Jerome Corsi, a conservative conspiracy theorist associated with Roger Stone, is negotiating a plea deal with special counsel Robert Mueller, The Washington Post reported Friday.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jerome-corsi-roger-stone-special-counsel-mueller_us_5bf83431e4b03b230fa1599e?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067&__twitter_impres

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On 11/23/2018 at 12:20 PM, jakeem said:

Rex Huppke Retweeted Jake Tapper

All these conmen and grifters, lowlifes and opportunistic conspiracy peddlers, got swept into positions that put them in the spotlight, and they all wilt. There is a reckoning coming. And it will reveal boundless stupidity.

 

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Apparently 29 people associated with either the campaign or Trump organization are now exposed to a multitude of crimes including lying to congress.  This is a really interesting Washington Post article...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/11/30/who-else-is-in-danger-from-cohen-plea/?utm_term=.f59c1d4eae60&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

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Who else is in danger from Cohen plea?

 
 
 
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November 30 at 10:15 AM

 

Underscoring the threat to the Trump family, Natasha Bertrand writes in the Atlantic:

It isn’t just Trump who may be in legal danger now that Cohen is cooperating — it’s also his family members, who Cohen admitted to briefing on the Trump Tower Moscow deal in 2016. According to the criminal information, filed by Mueller on Thursday, Cohen discussed the Moscow deal with Trump’s family members “within” the Trump organization. Donald Trump Jr., an executive vice president of the Trump Organization, told the Senate Judiciary Committee last year that he was only “peripherally aware” of the Moscow deal in 2016. It is not clear what he told the House Intelligence Committee, which has not yet released the transcripts of the closed-door interview. But Rep. Adam Schiff, the committee’s incoming chairman, said in a statement that the Cohen plea “highlights concern over another issue — that we believe other witnesses were also untruthful before our committee.”

If evidence now shows that Donald Trump, Jr. was involved, not merely “peripherally aware” of the Trump Tower deal he may have a serious legal problem.

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In sum, Cohen’s revelations about ongoing Trump Organization dealings with Russia puts at risk members of the president’s family, the cast of witnesses who have testified before Congress and the many individuals who had contacts with Russia and were less than truthful about them. “The blast radius caused by Cohen’s cooperation could be enormous. As Trump’s fixer, Cohen not only can implicate Trump for colluding with Russia but potentially the entire Trump organization,” says Max Bergmann, head of the Moscow Project. “He can pull back the curtain on a family business that has been extremely opaque and address whether it is indeed a vehicle for massive money laundering. This is a business operation that was never significant enough to warrant a lot of legal scrutiny. But it is certainly being scrutinized now. And Cohen was involved in multiple shady Trump organization projects in the former Soviet Union in which Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr were intimately involved. I imagine they are very worried.”

You don’t lie for no reason, and Cohen has supplied the reason why so many people found it necessary to conceal the Trump campaign’s and the Trump organization’s ties to Russia.

 

 

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5 hours ago, jakeem said:

NEW: Donald Trump Jr. testified to Congress that the Trump Organization's negotiations to develop a Trump Tower Moscow ended at the end of 2014.

But that conflicts with Michael Cohen, who said in a guilty plea the negotiations continued well into 2016.

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/30/672188201/trump-jr-s-2017-testimony-conflicts-with-cohen-s-account-of-russian-talks?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=politics&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=2059

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5 hours ago, jakeem said:

Susan Hennessey Retweeted NPR Politics

This is really, really bad for Jr.

It would also explain earlier reporting that Don Jr. has been telling people he anticipates being indicted.

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Ivanka and Donald Trump Jr. Were Close to Being Charged With Felony Fraud-

New York prosecutors were preparing a case. Then the D.A. overruled his staff after a visit from a top donor:

Trump attorney Marc Kasowitz. 

DA Vance overruled his own prosecutors. Three months after the meeting, he told them to drop the case. Kasowitz subsequently boasted to colleagues about representing the Trump children, according to two people. He said that the case was “really dangerous,” one person said, and that it was “amazing I got them off.” ........

https://www.propublica.org/article/ivanka-donald-trump-jr-close-to-being-charged-felony-fraud

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Seth AbramsonVerified account @SethAbramson 6h6 hours ago

 

1/ A key Trump camp lie that died this week was that Trump was aloof from virtually every campaign conversation that could possibly have had legal ramifications.

Cohen now tells us how closely Trump followed every development.

We'll discover that that was true *across the board*.

5/ Cohen kept Trump so well informed because Trump either implicitly or explicitly had demanded that of all his lieutenants. The very same expectations and relationship contours would've applied to both his son Don Jr. and his top shadow national security adviser, Michael Flynn.

 
 
 
 
 
6/ Likewise, when we learned Trump personally wrote a false witness statement for his son about the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting and then demanded Don release it to the public, it confirmed Trump was *actively* involved in narrative development on the Russia question throughout.
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Rabble-rousers, spouters of disinformation, spin-doctors, rumor-mongers, gossipers...these are the churls who need locking up. If there's one thing which would make the country better it would be reducing internet babble

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Natasha BertrandVerified account @NatashaBertrand 1h1 hour ago

 
 

Andrew McCabe, who was targeted by Trump relentlessly until Sessions fired him earlier this year

just days before he was set to retire/eligible to receive a pension,

opened an obstruction of justice investigation into Trump after Comey's firing, per @CNN.

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Seth AbramsonVerified account @SethAbramson 1h1 hour ago

 
 

I'm having flashbacks to mid-2017 when myself and every criminal defense attorney online was saying "Hey, the Comey firing was *definitely* Obstruction!"

and there were pundits wall-to-wall saying, "Obstruction is so hard to prove..."

 

Looks like the FBI didn't have as much doubt.

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How Donald Trump Shifted $1.1M Of Campaign-Donor Money Into His Business

 

"........ while inauguration festivities were still in full swing, he officially launched his 2020 reelection campaign. Donations poured in from more than 50,000 people across the country. But according to the latest federal filings, Trump still has not donated a penny of his own, while his businesses continued to charge the campaign for hotels, food, rent and legal consulting.

That means the richest president in American history has turned $1.1 million from donors across the country into revenue for himself. ....

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2018/12/06/how-donald-trump-shifted-11m-of-campaign-donor-money-into-his-business/#333debad4d34

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Seth Abramson on why Mueller “will ultimately be victorious.” Part 2 of 2

Author of “Proof of Collusion” on how “one of the most infamous scandals” in American history unfolds from here

 

"..............While this is not going to end well for President Trump, he did become president of the United States. Up until a certain point, he would have been able to make the case to someone that he had, for all his past crimes and malfeasance, lived life in a way that allowed him to at least appear successful, have a certain amount of wealth, win the first-ever election that he ran in and become essentially the most powerful man on Earth.

That’s a lot of positive reinforcement for Donald Trump to get. It likewise encouraged his feeling that he will get away with everything he’s been doing for years and everything he did during the campaign. As the old saying goes, “Pride goeth before the fall.”

That’s exactly the situation here. He has flown far too high for his skills. He is now exposed in the international sphere for what he is.

Again, the end of Donald Trump’s story will be that he will be a new paradigm for treachery to the United States....

.... . It is very clear to Robert Mueller that he can indict Donald Trump right now for a host of offenses that would put him in prison for the rest of his natural life......

This situation is scary because the president of the United States is fully compromised by multiple hostile foreign nations. What that means is that, at this point, the foreign policy of the United States, at least as it comes out of the executive branch, is effectively an ideological vassal state of our enemies. .....

 

as far as Donald Trump is concerned, this isn’t so much a legal case or a legal investigation as it is a political situation. If Trump can stay in office, keep his base and build on it slightly in 2020 -- should he make it that far -- he would be able to save himself from indictment and prosecution until at least 2025. .....

Donald Trump will attempt to justify his actions by saying that he wanted peace with the Russians, he wanted peace in the Middle East. He took these actions and, sure, they may have benefited him in some way or another because he happens to be a businessman, but ultimately, these were the right foreign policy decisions for him to make. He might make that claim. .....

 

I am confident that nothing Mr. Trump does or any of his allies, in Congress or in business, in politics or his voters, can stop this federal criminal investigation from reaching a just result. .....

Robert Mueller and his team will ultimately be victorious in upholding our rule of law and holding to account those who violated our federal statutes. "

https://www.salon.com/2018/12/07/author-and-attorney-seth-abramson-on-why-mueller-will-ultimately-be-victorious-part-2-of-2/:unsure:

 

 

 

 

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Will it soon be Devon Nunes' time in the barrel?   He worked closely with Michael Flynn on the Trump transition team and had meetings in Turkey with Flynn.  We all know that Nunes has done his best to obstruct the Mueller investigation.  And now we know that Michael Flynn has told all.  This from March 2017 ...

Devin Nunes: is the House intelligence chair Michael Flynn's best friend in DC?

In a curious subplot to the Trump-Russia scandal Nunes stood by the former national security adviser when even the White House called him a liar

and this from Nov 2017 ...

Devin Nunes attended a breakfast with Michael Flynn and Turkey's foreign minister just before the inauguration

 
Nov. 10, 2017, 2:52 PM
 
Devin NunesRep. Devin Nunes, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.  J. Scott Applewhite/AP 
  • Rep. Devin Nunes, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, attended a breakfast meeting at which Michael Flynn and Turkey's foreign minister were also present.
  • The breakfast took place just before President Donald Trump's inauguration in January.
  • A Wall Street Journal report published Friday indicated the special counsel Robert Mueller was scrutinizing Flynn's dealings with the Turkish government.
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Malcolm NanceVerified account @MalcolmNance 20h20 hours ago

 
 

Why is FSB Spy #MariaButina dealing w/ Mueller?

It’s all a scheme to get her back to Russia. Yes, talking burns her GOP assets but gets her exchanged in a future spy swap. Russian diplomats visited & coached her on what to do.

Chaos reminds Trump they own him now. #KeyserSozeLike

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Amy Siskind 🏳️‍🌈Verified account @Amy_Siskind Dec 10

 
 

..........Butina and her handler Torshin had dinner with Donald Jr. on May 19 at a NRA convention in Kentucky -weeks before the June 9 meeting.

She will also know about Russian money being funneled to Trump thru the NRA.

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38 minutes ago, mr6666 said:

How would DT react with direct indictments of Jared & Don Jr.??   :unsure:

We'll find out! LOL.

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1 hour ago, Bogie56 said:

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The Donald J. Trump Presidential Library in Sing Sing

LMREO!!! Maybe they'll rename it as another Trump Hotel!! :D

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