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Ian MillhiserVerified account @imillhiser 22h22 hours ago

 
 

Just so we’re clear, a vetted statement drafted by counsel that admits to a crime is MUCH MORE INCRIMINATING than a tweet tossed off by a suspect with a well-known reputation for saying things that aren’t true.

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Kurt EichenwaldVerified account @kurteichenwald 19h19 hours ago
 

White House blaming John Dowd for @Potus's "I confess" tweet. I call BS. I know Dowd. Smart as a whip lawyer. He wouldn't give a damn what twitter world thinks of Flynn charges.

Thats pure Trump.

WH blaming Dowd is transparent attempt 2 hide lie with attorney/client privilege.

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...ABC News reports that Dowd himself said “he wrote those words and had done so in a ‘sloppy’ manner.”

There has been some skepticism over this:

 

Prove it, John Dowd.

If this is true, there are surely emails you can show us corroborating your implausible story. Prove it.

https://twitter.com/kendilaniannbc/status/937317139861639171 

-_-:rolleyes:

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3 minutes ago, NipkowDisc said:

is this the same ABC who's brian ross reported that trump told flynn to contact the russians as a candidate and then hadda walk it back because it was untrue??? ross called it a clarification.:lol:

http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/02/media/abc-news-brian-ross/index.html

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Trump’s lawyer, Dowd claims responsibility for president’s problematic tweet-

 

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump's personal lawyer took responsibility Sunday for a tweet that Trump sent the previous day, in which the president said for the first time that he knew his former security adviser, Michael Flynn, had lied to the FBI before he fired Flynn in February.

........."I'm out of the tweeting business," Dowd said with a chuckle. "I did not mean to break news."

Trump, however, issued 10 tweets in 24 hours related to the Russia investigation, the FBI, and how federal investigators should really be looking into Hillary Clinton....

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-s-lawyer-claims-responsibility-trump-s-problematic-tweet-n826036

-don't matter....... all skepticism must be FAKE too

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10 hours ago, NipkowDisc said:

is this the same ABC who's brian ross reported that trump told flynn to contact the russians as a candidate and then hadda walk it back because it was untrue??? :lol:

http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/02/media/abc-news-brian-ross/index.html

I wouldn't say it was untrue.  It could still prove to be.   It was just premature to be reporting it.  They haven't given Flynn that sweet deal for nothing.

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Renato MariottiVerified account @renato_mariotti 3h3 hours ago

 
 

According to CNN, White House Counsel Don McGahn told Trump that Flynn misled the FBI and should be fired *before* Trump told FBI Director James Comey to drop the investigation against Flynn.

That explains why Trump’s lawyers are worried about obstruction.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/04/politics/wh-lawyer-told-trump-flynn-misled-fbi-pence/index.html

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33 minutes ago, mr6666 said:

Josh MarshallVerified account @joshtpm 14h14 hours ago

 
 

Wrt Pence being misled by Flynn, we don’t know specifically that Pence knew. But we do now know that all of Trumps top advisors not only knew about the details of the Kislyak calls but advised on them as they occurred.

Of course Pence knew.

-_-

They didn't get upset when alerted Flynn had lied because they were ALL in on that same lie from the beginning.  Flynn lied to the FBI to protect the bigger lie.  ALL of them, including Trump desperately courted the Russians to get damning emails on Hillary then guess what - compromised they were then forever after beholden to those Russians.  It's very simple.

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5 hours ago, mr6666 said:

Richard W. Painter @RWPUSA 4h4 hours ago

 
 

An excellent op-ed on the Logan Act and how it applies to private citizens who hold themselves out as representatives of the United States in talks with foreign governments.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/04/opinion/trump-team-flynn-logan-act.html?smid=tw-share

but wasn't trump already the president-elect?....

secret service entourages for private citizens!:lol:

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All major presidential and vice-presidential candidates have Secret Service protection,  whether they hold any public office or not.

The United States of America only has one president at a time and that one president directs and executes foreign policy for this country. Article 2 Section 2 of The Constitution

BTW--Violation of the Logan Act is a felony.

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8 hours ago, mr6666 said:

Richard W. Painter @RWPUSA 4h4 hours ago

 
 

An excellent op-ed on the Logan Act and how it applies to private citizens who hold themselves out as representatives of the United States in talks with foreign governments.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/04/opinion/trump-team-flynn-logan-act.html?smid=tw-share

I think the time has arrived to start enforcing this act.  You don't want American politicians getting around acts of criminality by employing foreign powers to do that dirty work for them.  Stealing someone's private correspondence is now possible through the internet so it can be much more prevalent today and easily done than when the act was written.  Does every new candidate hire and become beholden to a foreign power just to steal some dirt on their opponent?  It is the beholden to a foreign power for services rendered part that would apply to the Logan Act.

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1 hour ago, jakeem said:

The claim that the President “cannot obstruct justice” because he heads the justice system is made only by Trump’s lawyer John Dowd and by my former colleague Alan Dershowitz. The claim is utterly ludicrous. And the view it betrays is profoundly dangerous to democracy under law.

Well, if that's true, then is it too late to get Richard Nixon to rescind his resignation?

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Trump’s Transition Team Colluded With Israel. Why Isn’t That News?

 

"....why aren’t more members of Congress or the media discussing the Trump transition team’s pretty brazen collusion with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to undermine both U.S. government policy and international law? Shouldn’t that be treated as a major scandal?

Thanks to Mueller’s ongoing investigation, we now know that prior to President Donald Trump’s inauguration, members of his inner circle went to bat on behalf of Israel, and specifically on behalf of illegal Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories, behind the scenes and in opposition to official U.S. foreign policy. That’s the kind of collusion with a foreign state that has gotten a lot of attention with respect to the Kremlin – but colluding with Israel seems to be of far less interest, strangely....

https://theintercept.com/2017/12/05/michael-flynn-jared-kushner-israel-settlements-trump/

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6 minutes ago, mr6666 said:

Trump’s Transition Team Colluded With Israel. Why Isn’t That News?

 

"....why aren’t more members of Congress or the media discussing the Trump transition team’s pretty brazen collusion with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to undermine both U.S. government policy and international law? Shouldn’t that be treated as a major scandal?

Thanks to Mueller’s ongoing investigation, we now know that prior to President Donald Trump’s inauguration, members of his inner circle went to bat on behalf of Israel, and specifically on behalf of illegal Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories, behind the scenes and in opposition to official U.S. foreign policy. That’s the kind of collusion with a foreign state that has gotten a lot of attention with respect to the Kremlin – but colluding with Israel seems to be of far less interest, strangely....

https://theintercept.com/2017/12/05/michael-flynn-jared-kushner-israel-settlements-trump/

I believe the Republicans (and more than a few Democrats) have made it abundantly clear on multiple occasions that the needs of Israel outweigh the needs of the United States.

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41 minutes ago, LawrenceA said:

I believe the Republicans (and more than a few Democrats) have made it abundantly clear on multiple occasions that the needs of Israel outweigh the needs of the United States.

Yes,  even Dem Senator Chuck agree with that, based on that asinine proposal to criminalize boycotts of Israel.

 

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Ted LieuVerified account @tedlieu

 
 

Why do Trump associates keep lying--even under penalty of perjury--about their interactions with 1 person: Sergey Kislyak, a known Russian spy recruiter?

Flynn lied; Sessions lied; Kushner lied on his SF86 form; and now we know McFarland also lied.

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Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records-

"Special prosecutor Robert Mueller zeroed in on President Donald Trump’s business dealings with Deutsche Bank AG as his investigation into alleged Russian meddling in U.S. elections widens.

 

Mueller issued a subpoena to Germany’s largest lender several weeks ago, forcing the bank to submit documents on its relationship with Trump and his family,...

Trump’s relationship with Deutsche Bank stretches back some two decades and the roughly $300 million he owed to the bank represented nearly half of his outstanding debt, according to a July 2016 analysis by Bloomberg. ....

...the Deutsche Bank subpoena may indicate that the special prosecutor is still looking at a wide range of data, including the president’s financial dealings. .........

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-05/deutsche-bank-is-said-to-have-received-subpoena-on-client-trump

-FOLLOW THE MONEY!! ;)

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Natasha BertrandVerified account @NatashaBertrand

 

Trump Jr. asked Veselnitskaya at the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting whether she had evidence of illegal donations to the Clinton Foundation.

More evidence that Trump Jr. met with Russians on promise of Clinton dirt.

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Ted LieuVerified account @tedlieu 2h2 hours ago

 
 

Ted Lieu Retweeted Natasha Bertrand

Soliciting anything of value from a foreign national for campaign purposes violates the Federal Election Campaign Act.

Also, very clear Trump Jr. & @POTUS lied to the American people in July when they issued a statement saying meeting was about "the adoption of Russian children."

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From the WP ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/book-party/wp/2017/12/21/the-presidency-survived-the-watergate-iran-contra-and-clinton-scandals-trump-will-exact-a-higher-toll/?undefined=&utm_term=.8053d4305bf5&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

Book Party
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The presidency survived the Watergate, Iran-contra and Clinton scandals. Trump will exact a higher toll.

 
 

Histories of past presidential scandals reveal common threads and turning points -- but also show how Trump stands alone.

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