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Audrey Hepburn as SOTM June 2017

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Within a week or so, we should be finding out who the Star of the Month will be in June.

 

There's been a trend the last two years, related to gay and lesbian pride (which is typically celebrated each June), that the Star of the Month for June is either gay or lesbian. Two summers ago we had Rock Hudson, and last year it was Marie Dressler's turn.

 

If the trend continues (not saying it will, but if it does)-- then which candidates seem deserving..?

 

Maybe Tab Hunter. Lizabeth Scott. Patsy Kelly (a real trailblazer, an out lesbian in production code Hollywood). Edward Everett Horton. Who would you select?

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Within a week or so, we should be finding out who the Star of the Month will be in June.

 

There's been a trend the last two years, related to gay and lesbian pride (which is typically celebrated each June), that the Star of the Month for June is either gay or lesbian. Two summers ago we had Rock Hudson, and last year it was Marie Dressler's turn.

 

If the trend continues (not saying it will, but if it does)-- then which candidates seem deserving..?

 

Maybe Tab Hunter. Lizabeth Scott. Patsy Kelly (a real trailblazer, an out lesbian in production code Hollywood). Edward Everett Horton. Who would you select?

 

To me from that listing only Lizabeth Scott has enough leading parts in high quality films for SOTM.     Horton was a supporting player in many high qualify films but is that 'enough' for SOTM?

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To me from that listing only Lizabeth Scott has enough leading parts in high quality films for SOTM.     Horton was a supporting player in many high qualify films but is that 'enough' for SOTM?

 

Edward Everett Horton was a leading man when sound came in-- by today's standards he seems very miscast in romantic roles of the early 1930s. But he had a long and varied career with many 'essential' films to his credit. 

 

I agree that Lizabeth Scott was a lead in many quality films. She seems the most iconic. Tab Hunter, who is more "out" and still living, was under contract to Warners and TCM has access to a lot of his motion pictures.

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Edward Everett Horton was a leading man when sound came in-- by today's standards he seems very miscast in romantic roles of the early 1930s. But he had a long and varied career with many 'essential' films to his credit. 

 

I agree that Lizabeth Scott was a lead in many quality films. She seems the most iconic. Tab Hunter, who is more "out" and still living, was under contract to Warners and TCM has access to a lot of his motion pictures.

Even though I'm not a big Tab Hunter fan (I always preferred Troy Donahue of the two), I can see why Hunter would be a good candidate.

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Within a week or so, we should be finding out who the Star of the Month will be in June.

 

There's been a trend the last two years, related to gay and lesbian pride (which is typically celebrated each June), that the Star of the Month for June is either gay or lesbian. Two summers ago we had Rock Hudson, and last year it was Marie Dressler's turn.

 

If the trend continues (not saying it will, but if it does)-- then which candidates seem deserving..?

 

Maybe Tab Hunter. Lizabeth Scott. Patsy Kelly (a real trailblazer, an out lesbian in production code Hollywood). Edward Everett Horton. Who would you select?

Or it could be a bisexual's turn.

 

So it's possible Greta Garbo, Marlene Dietrich, Marlon Brando, Cary Grant, Randolph Scott, Danny Kaye, Alec Guinness, Errol Flynn, Tyrone Power, or Yul Brynner could be SOTM.

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Even though I'm not a big Tab Hunter fan (I always preferred Troy Donahue of the two), I can see why Hunter would be a good candidate.

 

Yes, I think he'd be an interesting choice as well.

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Even though I'm not a big Tab Hunter fan (I always preferred Troy Donahue of the two), I can see why Hunter would be a good candidate.

 

Typically SOTM needs at least 30 films and I reviewed Tab Hunter's films prior to making my reply and I just don't see where there are enough even 'OK' Hunter films for SOTM.    Yea, TCM could show the films he made latter in this career but most of those are silly stinkers.

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Typically SOTM needs at least 30 films and I reviewed Tab Hunter's films prior to making my reply and I just don't see where there are enough even 'OK' Hunter films for SOTM.    Yea, TCM could show the films he made latter in this career but most of those are silly stinkers.

 

When Kim Novak was Star of the Month, the programmers used just 16 films (four nights with just four films each night). I think Tab certainly has 16 fairly decent studio era films. The programmers could feature a night focusing on the lower budget stuff he did later in his career if they wanted to include a fifth evening. It's do-able.

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When Kim Novak was Star of the Month, the programmers used just 16 films (four nights with just four films each night). I think Tab certainly has 16 fairly decent studio era films. The programmers could feature a night focusing on the lower budget stuff he did later in his career if they wanted to include a fifth evening. It's do-able.

 

I don't wish to appear I'm throwing Tab under the bus but the original question posed was "then which candidates seem deserving":

 

While other STOMs like Novak and Vivien Leigh appeared in a limited number of films they were major stars in their era.   I just don't see Hunter being in the same "category".

 

So yea,  Hunter has enough films to be STOM but I don't feel he is deserving.   Someone like  Edward Everett Horton is much more so and the overall film quality of a Horton tribute would be miles ahead of one for Hunter (IMO).

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I don't wish to appear I'm throwing Tab under the bus but the original question posed was "then which candidates seem deserving":

 

While other STOMs like Novak and Vivien Leigh appeared in a limited number of films they were major stars in their era.   I just don't see Hunter being in the same "category".

 

So yea,  Hunter has enough films to be STOM but I don't feel he is deserving.   Someone like  Edward Everett Horton is much more so and the overall film quality of a Horton tribute would be miles ahead of one for Hunter (IMO).

 

It's kind of like apples and oranges. Horton and Hunter were from different eras and the films they made reflect those different times. I'd like to see both get a month-long retrospective (separate months of course).

 

Since Tab is still living, and there is a recent book on him-- this kind of stuff ties in with TCM's on-air marketing. Also they could have Tab appear at one of their film festivals like they did with Novak. 

 

When you look at how they design the evenings, they usually lead off with one or two well-known titles then the rest of the evening is the lesser stuff the stars did (the B films, the flops, the obscure foreign films, etc.). One night they can lead off with BATTLE CRY and go into his other war films. One night they can lead off with the two films he did alongside Natalie Wood and go into his lighter rom-coms. One night they can lead with GUNMAN'S WALK and go into his westerns. And on the other night they can lead off with RIDE THE WILD SURF and go into his low-budget fare from the 60s and 70s. 

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Top Billed, I have a question for you about this topic. Would there be a possibility of a bisexual actor as SOTM if the theme keeps going?

 

I'm pretty sure (correct me if I'm wrong here) Errol Flynn, Greta Garbo, and Marlene Dietrich have all been SOTM multiple times. Alec Guinness would be an interesting candidate because he has appeared in movies of every genre (though I doubt TCM would show Star Wars). Tyrone Power and Yul Brynner have never been SOTM, but they would be good candidates as well. Plus, a lot of people don't even know they're bi.

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Top Billed, I have a question for you about this topic. Would there be a possibility of a bisexual actor as SOTM if the theme keeps going?

 

I'm pretty sure (correct me if I'm wrong here) Errol Flynn, Greta Garbo, and Marlene Dietrich have all been SOTM multiple times. Alec Guinness would be an interesting candidate because he has appeared in movies of every genre (though I doubt TCM would show Star Wars). I don't know if Tyrone Power or Yul Brynner have ever been SOTM, but they would be good candidates as well. Plus, a lot of people don't even know they're bi.

 

I question if you really 'know they're bi'.   First just having sex with someone from the same sex doesn't make one 'bi' (at least to me),  and while there were rumors about people like Grant and Randolph (because,  oh my they owned a place in Malibu together),  that doesn't prove they are bi.   

 

To me the right thing to do is to only honor someone as a gay,  lesbian or a bisexual actor that was open about it;  e.g. Hunter.

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I question if you really 'know they're bi'.   First just having sex with someone from the same sex doesn't make one 'bi' (at least to me),  and while there were rumors about people like Grant and Randolph (because,  oh my they owned a place in Malibu together),  that doesn't prove they are bi.   

 

To me the right thing to do is to only honor someone as a gay,  lesbian or a bisexual actor that was open about it;  e.g. Hunter.

Read this about Yul Brynner. This is how I found out. http://gayinfluence.blogspot.com/2012/08/yul-brynner.html

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Read this about Yul Brynner. This is how I found out. http://gayinfluence.blogspot.com/2012/08/yul-brynner.html

 

I never claimed none of the people you mentioned were not 'bi'.    Anyhow I still stand by my point that it isn't right (fair),  to 'out' someone's sexual orientation unless that matches their wishes.    Instead we should respect their right to privacy.

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Top Billed, I have a question for you about this topic. Would there be a possibility of a bisexual actor as SOTM if the theme keeps going?

 

I'm pretty sure (correct me if I'm wrong here) Errol Flynn, Greta Garbo, and Marlene Dietrich have all been SOTM multiple times. Alec Guinness would be an interesting candidate because he has appeared in movies of every genre (though I doubt TCM would show Star Wars). Tyrone Power and Yul Brynner have never been SOTM, but they would be good candidates as well. Plus, a lot of people don't even know they're bi.

 

I think Alec Guiness would make a great Star of the Month. And obviously, a person's orientation doesn't have to be considered when selecting a star to honor. But I think the past two years TCM did try to select people who were known to be gay (Rock Hudson, Marie Dressler) as a nod to gay pride month.

 

It's not about 'outing' people but about celebrating accomplishments in film by people from all walks of life.

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James, it's alright. Everyone has their own opinion.

 

Top Billed, thanks for answering my question. I like the idea of Alec Guinness as SOTM. Like I mentioned in my previous post, Guinness has done movies in every genre, so it would be fun to see his body of work (outside of Star Wars). Like you said at the end of your last post, movies are made for entertainment and for us to celebrate the accomplishments of the actors.

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I've updated the title of the thread, since we just found out Audrey Hepburn is the Star of the Month in June. I will post which titles are being presented.

 

In the meantime TCM is doing a monthly spotlight on gay-themed classic cinema.

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monday june 5, 2017

roman holiday (1953) with gregory peck

love in the afternoon (1957) with gary cooper

green mansions (1959) with anthony perkins

we go to monte carlo (1953) with jules munshin

laughter in paradise (1951) with alastair sim

 

monday june 12, 2017

breakfast at tiffany's (1961) with george peppard

my fair lady (1964) with rex harrison

the nun's story (1959) with peter finch

the children's hour (1961) with shirley maclaine

 

tuesday june 13, 2017

the unforgiven (1960) with burt lancaster

 

monday june 19, 2017

how to steal a million (1966) with peter o'toole

wait until dark (1967) with alan arkin

the lavender hill mob (1952) with alec guinness

the secret people (1952) with valentina cortese

 

monday june 26, 2017

paris when it sizzles (1963) with william holden

funny face (1957) with fred astaire

always (1989) with richard dreyfuss

war and peace (1956) with mel ferrer

 

tuesday june 27, 2017

robin and marian (1976) with sean connery

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TCM is also showing Hepburn in TWO FOR THE ROAD ('67), airing June 30 as part of a special theme called 'European Vacations'.

 

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They're going back into the archives for that one. Is it when she was last honored as SOTM?

 

Yes. In fact, June 2017 will only be the second time that Audrey Hepburn was SOTM, though I'm sure she's been honored during Summer Under the Stars several times.

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Well, they cant very well expect R.O. to write a new column for Audrey..........

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The last evening of Audrey's month-long tribute is coming up. Most of these seldom air on TCM, so consider them a real treat:

 

monday june 26, 2017

paris when it sizzles (1963) with william holden

funny face (1957) with fred astaire

always (1989) with richard dreyfuss

war and peace (1956) with mel ferrer

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The last evening of Audrey's month-long tribute is coming up. Most of these seldom air on TCM, so consider them a real treat:

 

monday june 26, 2017

paris when it sizzles (1963) with william holden

funny face (1957) with fred astaire

always (1989) with richard dreyfuss

war and peace (1956) with mel ferrer

 

My research reveals that PARIS WHEN IT SIZZLES last aired on TCM in October 2008, FUNNY FACE hasn't aired since February 2009, ALWAYS hasn't aired since August 2006, and WAR AND PEACE last aired in February 2010. Get those DVRs ready, because if history is any indicator they won't show up on TCM again in this decade.

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