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Trump and North Korea

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17 hours ago, mr6666 said:

Hold the Nobel Prize: Kim Is Setting a Trap for Trump

It’s far too early to get excited about the possible outbreak of peace on the Korean Peninsula.

".......North Korea has pledged on multiple occasions to not to acquire nuclear weapons, beginning with the North’s accession to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty in 1985. In 1992, Kim’s grandfather committed to three no’s: no nuclear weapons, no nuclear reprocessing and no uranium enrichment. North Korea was caught red-handed cheating multiple times on all three nuclear no’s, but still received security assurances from the United States in 2005, when both sides pledged “to respect each other’s sovereignty, exist peacefully together” and normalize relations. All of these efforts ended in the same place, with a different Kim breaking his promises and enjoying tangible concessions from the United States and its allies.

To counter Kim’s smile diplomacy and avoid his trap, the Trump administration should take four lessons from prior negotiations with North Korea, Libya and Iran.......

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/05/10/trump-north-korea-kim-jong-un-nobel-prize-218357

=yeah, like HE'S likely to pay attention!

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Right- PEACE, don't think of giving it a chance (even if small). This situation with North Korea has never happen before. NK could be lying - the future will tell. Now if Obama was doing this SAME THING, lets give him the Nobel Peace Prize  and a ticker tape parade.

 

Finding it strange some are unhappy tensions has DECREASED! :wacko:

 

Remember when many thought this was once nearly impossible.

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Did have a few killjoy clowns in the Soviet Union try to undo it

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Lucas TomlinsonVerified account @LucasFoxNews

 

Pompeo: “I think Chairman Kim [Jong Un] shares the objectives with the American people, I am convinced of that,” secretary of state says on @FoxNewsSunday

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Jim SciuttoVerified account @jimsciutto May 13

 

This is an odd conviction to hold about a leader who starves his people, assassinates relatives, holds thousands in prison labor camps & has cheated on every previous nuclear treaty.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44101068

Pompeo on N Korea: US may allow private firms to invest

The US may allow private companies to invest in North Korea, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Sunday.

In an interview on Fox News Sunday, he clarified that this would be conditional on the country's full denuclearisation.

He said US investors could help build its energy grid.

This comes after his trip to Pyongyang last week and ahead of President Donald Trump's meeting with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un in Singapore.

The US announced its offer to help rebuild the North Korean economy on Friday, but Mr Pompeo has now given more details on the proposal.

"This will be Americans coming in - private sector Americans, not the US taxpayer - private sector Americans coming in to help build out the energy grid. They need enormous amounts of electricity in North Korea," he said.

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1 hour ago, Gershwin fan said:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44101068

Pompeo on N Korea: US may allow private firms to invest

The US may allow private companies to invest in North Korea, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Sunday.

In an interview on Fox News Sunday, he clarified that this would be conditional on the country's full denuclearisation.

He said US investors could help build its energy grid.

This comes after his trip to Pyongyang last week and ahead of President Donald Trump's meeting with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un in Singapore.

The US announced its offer to help rebuild the North Korean economy on Friday, but Mr Pompeo has now given more details on the proposal.

"This will be Americans coming in - private sector Americans, not the US taxpayer - private sector Americans coming in to help build out the energy grid. They need enormous amounts of electricity in North Korea," he said.

 

People thought Puerto Rico was a challenge! :blink:

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On 5/14/2018 at 5:53 PM, mr6666 said:

Lucas TomlinsonVerified account @LucasFoxNews

 

Pompeo: “I think Chairman Kim [Jong Un] shares the objectives with the American people, I am convinced of that,” secretary of state says on @FoxNewsSunday

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Jim SciuttoVerified account @jimsciutto May 13

 

This is an odd conviction to hold about a leader who starves his people, assassinates relatives, holds thousands in prison labor camps & has cheated on every previous nuclear treaty.

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perhaps pompeo means it in the context of the current iniative.

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5 hours ago, hamradio said:

US and SK are always doing drills, Kim just trying to find a frivolous excuse to cancel.

 

Its called negotiating or the art of the deal.   Regardless, Kim may very well be looking for a reason to cancel, especially since Trump reneged on the Iran nuclear agreement even though Iran was in 100% compliance.  Also, NK has promised denuclerization several times in the past and then backed out.

Just goes to prove that Trump is totally unqualified to be considered for any kind of "peace" award.

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Another interesting article on the Trump - North Korea situation.  Trump will learn that appointing John Bolton to any position in government is a mistake as far as actually accomplishing anything.  He will appeal to the Trump base, but he will offend the rest of America and the world.  Might even get the US involved in conflicts it cannot win.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/05/17/this-is-why-north-korea-reacted-so-strongly-to-boltons-mention-of-the-libya-model/?utm_term=.e5a63639934a&wpisrc=nl_politics&wpmm=1

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23 hours ago, mr6666 said:

Josh SmithVerified account @joshjonsmith

 

BREAKING: KCNA says North Korea will "reconsider" summit with Trump if U.S. insists on it giving up nuclear program,

says it will never give up its nuclear program in exchange for economic trade with the United States

7:22 PM - 15 May 2018

they of course are for once being truthful. NK will not give up their nuclear ambitions.

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Is a gullible Donald Trump being taken for a ride by North Korea?

Experts on the challenge of North Korea diplomacy largely agree that Trump has put himself in a terrible position

".....Trump already made a major diplomatic concession to Kim Jong-un by agreeing to meet with him, something no previous U.S. president has ever done.

As a result, North Korea is now in a position to humiliate Trump if he fails to extract major concessions from the Kim dictatorship. In typical fashion, Trump has made clear that he hopes to achieve a lasting peace between North and South Korea, a maddeningly difficult goal that is of course impossible without North Korean cooperation. Kim's government understands this perfectly well.

The North Korean "end game," Chang said, "is to keep their most destructive weapons, have a meeting with President Trump which legitimizes Kim Jong-un, and be able to continue to threaten the rest of the world. Getting relief from sanctions, getting money from South Korea ... there's a whole laundry list of things that they want......

https://www.salon.com/2018/05/17/is-a-gullible-donald-trump-being-taken-for-a-ride-by-north-korea/

 

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https://outline.com/WDpYgy

Trump Says China May Be Egging On North Korea’s Insults

President Donald Trump said Thursday that Chinese President Xi Jinping “could be influencing” North Korean leader Kim Jong Un after his regime abruptly shifted to a sharp, negative tone this week about the prospects of a planned summit with the U.S. in June.

“If you remember two weeks ago, all of a sudden out of nowhere Kim Jong Un went to China to say hello again -- second time -- to President Xi,” Trump told reporters during an Oval Office meeting with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, referring to a May 8 meeting between the leaders.

“It could very well be that he’s influencing Kim Jong Un. We’ll see what happens. Meaning the President of China, President Xi, could be influencing,” Trump said.

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