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Trump's Tax Cuts for the Wealthy & Corporations

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17 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

The American people knew this before and they still vote overwhelmingly GOP  (outside of CA and NY).

 

 

Ya think?  Maybe they forgot. The Americans I spoke to who voted for Trump were caught up in this change the system hysteria.

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21 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

The American people knew this before and they still vote overwhelmingly GOP  (outside of CA and NY).

 

 

Many genuinely believed Trump's rhetoric that most of the tax cuts would be for the poor.

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13 hours ago, Gershwin fan said:

Many genuinely believed Trump's rhetoric that most of the tax cuts would be for the poor.

Actually they didn't.  They believed his tax cuts would benefit the working and middle classes and small businesses. That is what Trump and the GOPers really emphasized.  The Trump voters didn't care about the poor and the poor don't vote.  The statement re: it helping the poor was a feel good thing to make them think they were helping out the "poor."  Sort of like dropping a dollar in a Salvation Army kettle once a year.

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17 hours ago, Bogie56 said:

Ya think?  Maybe they forgot. The Americans I spoke to who voted for Trump were caught up in this change the system hysteria.

I was talking about Congress.   But I guess many voters don't know that the President doesn't pass any legislation.   So if they voted for Trump expecting a different type of GOP stance on taxes (or gun control or multiple other issues),  they were fools.     This GOP tax plan is what the GOP has been trying to do for over a decade.  In addition when the GOP goes to cut entitlements no one should be surprised about that either.   This is another thing they have openly discussed doing for decades.  

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3 hours ago, TheCid said:

Actually they didn't.  They believed his tax cuts would benefit the working and middle classes and small businesses. That is what Trump and the GOPers really emphasized.  The Trump voters didn't care about the poor and the poor don't vote.  The statement re: it helping the poor was a feel good thing to make them think they were helping out the "poor."  Sort of like dropping a dollar in a Salvation Army kettle once a year.

By "poor" I meant the non-insanely rich who won't actually benefit like the small businesses and working class.

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5 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

I was talking about Congress.   But I guess many voters don't know that the President doesn't pass any legislation.   So if they voted for Trump expecting a different type of GOP stance on taxes (or gun control or multiple other issues),  they were fools.     This GOP tax plan is what the GOP has been trying to do for over a decade.  In addition when the GOP goes to cut entitlements no one should be surprised about that either.   This is another thing they have openly discussed doing for decades.  

There is already talk among GOP that the projected deficits and debt justify massive cuts to entitlements.  The tax cut act was just step one in their program.  Sneak it through and then the rest falls into place.

I belong to a couple of military related organizations and both are big on expanding defense spending - more ships, more planes, more troops, more facilities and equipment, more senior officers and headquarters units, etc.  Then they turn around and complain about planned and projected cuts to retirement, family support, dependent care, medical coverage, etc.

They never realize that entitlements means them.  And when it comes down to cuts in benefits for veterans and military vs. cuts to education, Social Security, Medicare and many others, the ones with the largest voting groups will win.  

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SATIRE

New GOP Tax Plan Requires Welfare Recipients To Apply For Each Individual Piece Of Food

WASHINGTON—As part of their effort to rein in government spending through entitlement reform, GOP congressional leaders announced Friday that their new tax plan will require welfare recipients to apply for each individual piece of food they receive. “Mandating that all Americans on food stamps submit a separate application for every morsel they want to buy ensures that they get the nutrition they need without wasting taxpayer dollars,” said House Speaker Paul Ryan, explaining that the new bill would significantly reduce the costs of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program by requiring low-income Americans to make a case for each piece of fruit, slice of bread, or grain of rice they plan to purchase. “Putting more onus on welfare recipients to justify why they need to buy something like a potato chip, a dollop of mayonnaise, or a pinch of salt with taxpayer money will help increase personal responsibility and reduce waste. In addition, parents will be required to fill out separate forms itemizing each mouthful taken by their children, which will enable them to be adequately nourished while not indulging in superfluous calories at government expense.” Ryan added that the bill also included work-requirement reform mandating that all food stamp recipients submit daily paperwork to their SNAP office with a valid explanation for each minute they weren’t working.

https://politics.theonion.com/new-gop-tax-plan-requires-welfare-recipients-to-apply-f-1821130408

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2 hours ago, LawrenceA said:

SATIRE

New GOP Tax Plan Requires Welfare Recipients To Apply For Each Individual Piece Of Food

WASHINGTON—As part of their effort to rein in government spending through entitlement reform, GOP congressional leaders announced Friday that their new tax plan will require welfare recipients to apply for each individual piece of food they receive. “Mandating that all Americans on food stamps submit a separate application for every morsel they want to buy ensures that they get the nutrition they need without wasting taxpayer dollars,” said House Speaker Paul Ryan, explaining that the new bill would significantly reduce the costs of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program by requiring low-income Americans to make a case for each piece of fruit, slice of bread, or grain of rice they plan to purchase. “Putting more onus on welfare recipients to justify why they need to buy something like a potato chip, a dollop of mayonnaise, or a pinch of salt with taxpayer money will help increase personal responsibility and reduce waste. In addition, parents will be required to fill out separate forms itemizing each mouthful taken by their children, which will enable them to be adequately nourished while not indulging in superfluous calories at government expense.” Ryan added that the bill also included work-requirement reform mandating that all food stamp recipients submit daily paperwork to their SNAP office with a valid explanation for each minute they weren’t working.

https://politics.theonion.com/new-gop-tax-plan-requires-welfare-recipients-to-apply-f-1821130408

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Sounds like this program will cost more to administer than it will save in taxpayer spending.    But I would like to see the use of food stamps limited to actual food;  E.g. NO soda,  no products with added sugar,   no use at fast food places,  etc...    In addition people on government assistance should have an abortion before having a child but the government should provide birth control for free.  

PS:  Oh I see this is satire.   I assume it was done to show that it is mean to reduce the food stamp allocation or to limit it to actual food.   Nonsense.   Since such a high percentage of food stamps are used on total junk,  this says to me the food stamp allocation is too high and that the program is more about corporate welfare (by giving dollars to corporations that sell junk) instead of ensure people get the nutrition they need.

 

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4 hours ago, Bogie56 said:

Surprised?  From the WP ...

As tax plan gained steam, GOP lost focus on the middle class
The final product is looking much different from what President Trump has been promising since the presidential campaign.
By Damian Paletta  •

That is simply because Trump has no understanding nor knowledge of how government and the economy actually function.  He has no understanding or knowledge of how the tax system is supposed to work in order to support a functioning democratic government.

Besides which he lies like heck and is stupid if he does not know that he is lying and the tax cut program will not benefit the workers, middle class or small businesses.  What is worse is that many working and middle class and business people voted for him because they believed his lies.

Believe that Democrats lie, but they know it and they know that you probably know it.  However, they know what the truth is and what realistically can be done to improve America and people's lives. 

 Whereas Republicans lie because they don't care what the truth is as long as the lie serves their interests.  Nor do they care how it harms America and the people.

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