Dr. Rich Edwards

8/2/17 Lecture Note Discussion: Who Would be a Hitchcock Collaborator in 2017?

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I really don't know much about people beside some stars: Danny Elfman and John Williams for music? Maybe Tom Hanks, kind of Jimmy Stewart. Any blonde female.

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Music: Hans Zimmer, Ennio Morricone,

Writing : Tarantino The Coens, Stephen King

Actors: Clooney, Edward Norton, Tom Wilkinson, Gary Oldman, Cate Blanchett, Charlize Theron- would be his new blonde bff!

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Some actors come to mind:

 

Benedict Cumberbatch

Tilda Swinton

Good choices!  I was thinking of Tilda myself because of her ability to morph into so many looks. She would be great in something that required multiple identities- even male. 

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Lynda LaPlante would be my choice for a writer. She was the creator/writer for the original Prime Suspect TV series and I think her gritty approach to crime and English background would appeal to Hitch.

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I could definitely see Hitch working with directors like Martin Scorsese, Quentin Tarantino, and David Fincher. Even though they are all very different and quirky/unique in some ways, I think Hitch would LIKE what they bring to the table.

 

He also would love working with some of their constant collaborators like cinematographer Bob Richardson, editor Thelma Schoonmaker, and musicians Trent Reznor/Atticus Ross. The creativity and stylistic approach they bring to the table would probably impress Hitch a lot.

 

It's really hard to think of writers because so few films today have screenplays akin to Hitch's, especially his many films that lack dialogue. As we said, he was a silent filmmaker at heart, so I doubt he could find an easy replacement to today's standards since dialogue is now key. One person who he would definitely NOT collaborate with would be Aaron Sorkin. Though he is a true genius, he is, as Kate Winslet said after making STEVE JOBS, crazy for writing so much dialogue!

 

For actors, the list could go on and on and I actually think Hitch would enjoy working with many modern performers. Tom Hanks, Daniel Day-Lewis, Sean Penn, Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Denzel Washington, Mark Ruffalo, and Michael Keaton are some leading men that come to mind while blondes like Charlize Theron, January Jones, Cate Blanchett, Kate Winslet, Rosamund Pike, and Jennifer Lawrence also strike me. He would probably find some great work for supporting actors and actresses too. Christoph Waltz and Michelle Williams are some who immediately come to mind.

 

If only these collabs could happen, just think what we'd have in our grasps!!!

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If Hitchcock were to be alive today, he would still: innovate and push the boundaries of cinema, gravitate towards suspense thrillers, and have a sense of humor. 

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I agree that we have to keep in mind that AH was always pushing the envelope. I wonder if he might venture in some directions we haven't seen such as Sci-Fi (think of all the exotic places he could go) and Fantasy (similar to the LOTR and Hobbit trilogies; any chance Peter Jackson is actually the reincarnation of Hitch?) 

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I wonder what a Hitchcock/Stephen King collaboration would be like. It would seem like a match made in heaven but I think that it might have ended up like Hitch's collaboration with Raymond Chandler.

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Ironically enough, I think he would have loved to work with Brian De Palma. He would have appreciated his homages to him, but I don't think he would have taken to the more explicit sexuality in certain films as Dressed to Kill, and Body Double.

 

I think he also would have appreciated M. Night Shymalan's technique to filmmaking, even though everything after The Sixth Sense is definitely either hit or miss. 

 

Since music was a very crucial aspect of Hitchcock's films, Danny Elfman, Hans Zimmer and especially John Williams, would have made great collaborators to him. They could provide their own compositions to his films, to see which of them he would connect to.  

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   If Mr. Hitchcock was alive in 2017 with whom would he be collaborating? The easy answer is that he would seek out an unproven young-ish man from St. Louis and we would start working next week. Kidding aside, since he worked with John Williams on his last film it seems natural that they would continue working together. I believe that Phillip Glass and Danny Elfman might also be composers of note who would work well with Mr. Hitchcock.

   Giorgio Armani and Tom Ford come to mind as his costumers as they are very stylish and you know that it is their clothing the moment someone is wearing it.

   I also see Mr. Hitchcock working not only in IMAX (he would have been the first) buy also to work in television in partnership with Netflix, Amazon and HBO in telling stories longer than 120 minutes in length. I could easily see him doing a series. 

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Tim Burton and Quentin Tarantino are two that jump out at me as directing collaborations. Stephen King, as many others have said, would be a wonderful choice for writing. Wardrobe.. this is a little hard to decide, as I'm not really familiar with lots of designers of the stars or designers in general. Music.. Hans Zimmer. 

 

As far as acting goes, the options are endless.. as Hitch had a variety of stars and unknowns throughout his career. I would love to see Jamie Lee Curtis in a Hitchcock film role. 

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Rosamund Pike is a good one. It's striking how many David Fincher collaborators come to mind for this topic. Tilda seems quite plausible too.

 

Lawrence Kasdan is a good choice. Just wrote a piece on Body Heat. Thomas Newman is one of my favorites. I used to have the soundtracks to Wall-E and The Shawshank Redemption on my work computer. Listened to them all the time.

 

Newman is an underrated one. Kasdan is like John Carpenter. It's a yes in general, but a no or unlikely for 2017. Just like Michelle Pfeiffer, imo. I'm sure Hitchcock would've liked peak Angie Dickinson too, but not currently.

 

I'm also going to push back against Jennifer Lawrence, which I've seen. I love Jennifer Lawrence, but her best work rarely has an icey quality. She's not in your face with her sexuality, but she is very emotionally raw and honest, often in an against manners kind of way. To me that seems at odds with a major Hitchcock female role, and J. Law is such a huge star today I don't see her taking a smaller part like the other/older love interest in say THE BIRDS or MARNIE.

 

 

It's really hard to think of writers because so few films today have screenplays akin to Hitch's, especially his many films that lack dialogue. As we said, he was a silent filmmaker at heart, so I doubt he could find an easy replacement to today's standards since dialogue is now key. One person who he would definitely NOT collaborate with would be Aaron Sorkin. Though he is a true genius, he is, as Kate Winslet said after making STEVE JOBS, crazy for writing so much dialogue!

 
In general, I agree with this. Sorkin is so in love with dialogue that Hitch would rebel against bending his camera set-ups and staging to the dialogue. But the in the right project? With cinematic potential? I think Hitchcock might love it. Hitch jumped at the chance to do ROPE, LIFE BOAT, and DIAL M FOR MURDER all of which are very dialogue heavy, and the ROPE and DIAL M FOR MURDER are both quite interior. Even REAR WINDOW has quite a bit of dialogue, which Hitchcock considered his most pure cinema film. It'd definitely depend on the idea and project though, as well as at least some flexibility from Sorkin (which I think is possible given that Sorkin successfully worked with another controlling director in David Fincher.)
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I wonder what a Hitchcock/Stephen King collaboration would be like. It would seem like a match made in heaven but I think that it might have ended up like Hitch's collaboration with Raymond Chandler.

 

I can see that. It depends on how much free reign King would give Hitchcock today. And the potential project. And Hitch tended to avoid supernatural type stories or those elements would be misdirection (e.g. VERTIGO's ghost story/possession misdirection). 

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I think Hitch's new Edith Head would be Catherine Martin. Her costumes are incredibly vivid, telling and rich. I definitely think he would collaborate with Hans Zimmer for musical scoring. Zimmer's themes are iconic and thematic, very similar to the way Bernard Herrmann would have composed. While this would be incredibly outlandish, I love the idea of a Hitchcock/Coen Brothers collaboration. Can you imagine that film? 

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Possible collaborators (an estimation, if Hitchcock were alive in the world of modern cinema): 

 

Directors: Steven Spielberg, Tim Burton, Brian De Palma, Guillermo Del Toro, Christopher Nolan, David Lynch, Edwardo Sanchez, Danny Boyle

 

Players: Patrick Stewart, Cate Blanchett, Bryan Cranston, Denzel Washington, Helen Mirren,  Julie Christie, Laura Linney, Daniel Day-Lewis

 

Writers: Joel and Ethan Coen, William Goldman, Terry Gilliam, Wes Anderson

 

Music: John Williams, Danny Elfman, Thomas Newman, Alexandre Desplat

 

Costume: Sandy Powell,  Alexandra Byrne, Jacqueline West, Catherine Leterrier

 

If Alfred Hitchcock were living today, he might have embraced the latest enhancements in screen entertainment (Netflix and Hulu for streaming video/VOD services, IMAX, Dolby Atmos, D-Box, high dynamic range, etc.).  

 

 

 

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Robert Rodriguez, Dario Argento would be really amazing to see what they could create together. Woody Allen would also be interesting to combine his humor with Hitchcocks.

 

For costuming, i think of Tom Ford or Karl Lagerfeld

 

Modern day actors i would love to see in his films: Javier Bardem, Daniel Day Lewis, Penelope Cruz, Edward Norton, Angelica Huston, Adrien Brody, Martin Freeman, Jessica Lange, Meryl Streep and Margot Robbie would make a fabulous Hitchcock Blonde

 

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As far as a writer, I can imagine that Stephen King and AH would have been an incredible team. As regards music composer I think AH might have found some great scores with Andrew Lloyd Webber.  Steven Spielberg certainly comes to mind as regards direction. I think Tom Hanks possess the "every man" quality that would have made him a great male lead. I think Meryl Streep would have made a great leading lady. Nicole Kidman would be another blond (yes she is a red head but she would look fabulous as a blond.) 

 

I would also love to have seen AH collaborate with Martin Scorsese and of course Frances Ford Coppola. 

 

As regards costumes I think of Colleen Atwood and Sandy Powell. Given AH's love of new technology I think he would have worked with Steve Jobs and PIxar. 

 

I save the "best" for last. I think and AH - Quentin Tarantino would have been dynamite.  

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For actresses: Robin Wright, Kim Basinger (for the blondes). Both actresses can be emotional, icy, cool and act in both comedies and dramas. Robin Wright in her current role in House of Cards, shows her range and Kim Basinger's role in L.A. Confidential, was the classic blonde but with depth. 

 

For actors: Like others, I agree that Tom Hanks is the Jimmy Stewart of today and I see George Clooney as the Cary Grant type. But I would suggest also that Anthony Hopkins can play the smooth evil character (like the husband in Dial M for Murder), John Cusack I can see as the every man type character who is thrown into all sort of unconventional plot twists. 

 

For directors: Wes Anderson---because he has his own style so indelible that you can tell it is one of his films without knowing the name of the director. The framing of the scenes, music and color remind me of the way Hitchcock used those in his films. Also, Anderson uses the same actors for many of his films. He also has had actors that have been cast against their usual 'type' (Bruce Willis in Moonrise Kingdom, for example). 

 

Another director: Robert Altman. Yes, Altman had actors improvising their lines, but his work showed a quirky sensibility---and humor (Cookie's Fortune---humor at a death). 

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I am going to be bold in this topic but I do think that Hitchcock would not like todays movies. He might like some directors and stuff but i think if he did collaborate with someone today it would be someone classic someone from his generation of movie making.  

 

Think about all of the hitchcockish films we have just talked about (modern ones) no one could stand up to him.

 

Kubrick made films with the same people up till the day he died.... All directors have a "club/family" of people they would with over and over again because they all had a part to play... Look at a current film by Spielberg, Scorsese they work with the same people over and over....only difference is Scorsese worked with someone of Hitchcock's crew during the years, such as Sal Bass who did the opening credits to Cape Fear, Casino and worked with Hermann.

 

I think if Hitchcock would do something today he would go back to TV.

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I like everyone ideas.

I agree that Hitch would have a hard time with the "movie milieu" today. But being such an avant guarde

person and so willing to take the risk, and given that he enjoyed making movies and making us "feel", I would like to think he would be making great movies still. It is fun to imagine how Hitchcock would twist a sci fi/cyber punk thriller, with great chase scenes into a polished thriller/ psycho killer/ suspense masterpiece.

I would love to see a collaboration between Hitchcock and Simon Pegg, or Tim Burton.

I think that music by Stewart Copeland, Danny Elfman, Moby, or Serj Tankian would make for an interesting Hitchcock soundtrack. 

Costume designs by Erdem, Balmain's Olivier Rousteing, John Galliano would be fabulous in adaptations of William Gibson, Carl Hiaasen, Storm Constantine, or even Elmore Leonard. And  Carrie Anne Moss, Milla Jovovich, Helen Mirren, Susan Sarandon, Diane Keaton or Joan Cusack sporting Erdem, or Comme Des Garcon would make great spies/ or mystery women or deranged relatives.

As for leading men I could see Edward Norton as the suave  killer next door, or in a remake of Dial M for Murder, I think he would even be good as the cop. I can see Clive Owen as a peeping tom type, Christian Bale as "the wrong" man.

I can only imagine...

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I wanted to throw my two cents in (ooh - there's the double).  I had hoped you would ask for actor collaborators for today's module, so I held my comment until today.  My pick is Johnny Depp - couldn't you see him as Bruno Antony in Strangers on a Train?  Many of the commenters are suggesting Tim Burton as a collaborator, this would be a perfect fit!

 

Thank you Dr. Edwards, and all involved, for this course.  It has been interesting and fun, and I've learned so much.  I always thought that my sense of humor was warped because I would laugh at some of the comedic parts of Hitchcock movies when no one else would - now I know I'm in good company!

 

I can't wait to hang my bragging rights along with my Film Noir and Slapstick certificates!

 

Looking forward to the next course, whatever that may be.

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I think it would be really interesting to have Alfred Hitchcock work with Danny Elfman on the scores to some films.

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I do not see a message board topic for August 3, so I am posting about tonight's Fan Panel here:

 

 

FAN PANEL #1: FRESH LOOKS AT REAR WINDOW

  1. DOUG LONG: Rear Window and Cornell Woolrich’s 1942 crime story “It Had to Be Murder”
  2. LESLEY M. SARGOY: Hitchcock's Uses Grace Kelly's Wardrobe in Rear Window to Visually Demonstrate the Lisa/Jeff Relationship
  3. CHRIS STURHANN: Inside Jokes in Rear Window

​I am looking forward to watching all three presentations, but particularly to Doug Long's presentation, as it appears to be about the differences between the story told in a film versus the story told in the book on which the film was allegedly based.

 

​I say allegedly based, because it seems that seems that many films are only loosely based on the books that inspired them. In Hitchcock's case, Rebecca very closely resembled the book, but only because David O. Selznick insisted upon it. When John Huston directed The Maltese Falcon, ​he kept the dialogue almost word for word identical to what Dashiell Hammett had written in his book.  So, it sometimes happens that films do resemble the books that inspired them.

 

However, when left to his own devices, Hitch deviated significantly from the original stories, as he did in ​Rear Window, Strangers on a Train, and The Birds. He is not the only director to do this. The film ​Deadline at Dawn versus the short story version is another example of how other Directors have also deviated widely from the book versions.   

 

What Hitchcock often did reminds me of an experience I had when my daughter was taking a writing course in college. The students were given prompts and asked to write a story based on the prompts. For one assignment, the prompt was "a man, a woman, and a cigarette." My daughter and I decided it would be fun for each of us to write a story based on that prompt and to compare the results. As you might guess, the resulting stories bore little resemblance to each other. For The Birds, ​it is as if Hitch had taken from the original story only the prompt of "birds attack and kill people." For Rear Window, he took only the prompt of "man with broken leg spies on neighbors and suspects a murder." Sometimes, this approach is necessary because the book version is not easily transferred to film, but sometimes, it seems as if the screenplay writer was just indulging his ego. I think the changes Hitch made were for the better.          

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Love this assignment! Here are my picks for modern-day Hitchcock collaborators + stars:

 

Director: Danny Boyle, Sofia Coppola, David Fincher or David Lynch (wonder if they would get along...)

Costume Designer: Luca Mosca (John Wick films), Arianne Phillips, or Alexander McQueen (R.I.P.)

Screenwriter: Andrew Kevin Walker 

Author: Bret Easton Ellis or Donna Tartt (would like to see Hitch's adaptation of The Secret History)

Sound: Danny Elfman 

Actors: Stephen Fry as the sharp-witted detective

Scarlett Johansson or Gwyneth Paltrow as the icy blonde

Christian Bale or Javier Bardem as the mild-mannered, stylish villain

Daniel Craig or Jude Law as the falsely accused protagonist

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It would interesting to see Hitchcock work with composers like Danny Elfman Elmer and Hans Zimmer.  Two composers with different styles but would fit in a thriller and already have.

 

As far as directors that would be interesting matches with Hitchcock I would pick David Fincher Christopher Nolan and Michael Mann.  I think Hitchcock would really appreciate Nolan’s use of time shifting.  It's not something Hitchcock did (except as a montage) and he would find introducing something different into a movie intriguing.  Could he introduce something into the beginning of movie that was out sequence of events that relevant and changes the perspective of the audience?

 

But Martin Scorsese would also be interesting.  This combination of realism and formalism.

 

I think people are avoiding Steven Spielberg because of the mainstream or obvious, but it would be interesting. There are so many examples of suspense in Spielberg movies, and Hitchcock would probably appreciate them.

 

Movie stars.  Would he return to A listers?  To be honest it would have to be stars that willing to be a part of the story arc and take his direction.  I think Tom Hanks, Kevin Spacey, Anthony Hopkins would fit into his roles because of the diversity of roles.  Cate Blanchett seems to be a good fit.  Would a younger actress like Margot Robbie (the dangerous blonde) work? Really all the above have to perform as dictated by Hitchcock's vision.  And I don't know which would fall short. He wouldn't have taken someone like Brando, with all due respect.

 
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