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Is 12 Trump threads here enough yet?

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When it comes to MM's posts, it's best to go with a paraphrase

of the old Reagan adage--Don't trust, verify.

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Sorry buster. There are posts on threads here comparing the Million+ jobs created from 02/2017-07/2017 under Trump, compared with 1.7 Million for the same period last year under Obama. Additionally, Trump is taking credit for many jobs that were already in the works when he came in office.

Not to mention that the real problem is not the number of jobs, but the stagnation of incomes for the middle and working classes.  More people may be employed, but they are making very little.  They are also being hired for low-paying jobs.

Then you have the multi-billionaires such as the Trump family and supporters who continue to see their incomes skyrocket. Salivating over the soon tax cuts only for the wealthiest Americans.

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The "typical" American voter is a tough one to nail down.  They individually believe what they want to and vote for whose rhetoric plays to those beliefs, regardless of the candidate's ability, willingness or authority to be able to fullfill it.  And it's mostly single-minded as to the reason why the "typical" American voter casts their votes the way they do.

 

I've mentioned this before, but it serves as a good example of what I mean, so here goes again.....

 

I had two brothers in law( now deceased) who were brothers, and both thought along the same lines.  They were both "pro gun", anti-abortion, pro capital punishment, anti gay rights, indifferent to the environment, male chauvinists, and racial bigots.  Everything republican voters are believed to be( in fact, another brother in law is ALL those things and republican too!)  yet every four years on election day, they voted for the DEMOCRAT.

 

Why?  It's because they both too, were autoworkers and long time U.A.W. members who also long believed the democrats were the party that was for "the working man",  and republicans only cared about the rich. 

 

THERE'S your "typical American voter".  And the key to how Trump won the election, if only by the EC.  He preached to the largest choir, regardless of how simple and narrow minded their repertoire was.

 

 

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Reminds me of most white government employees in S.C.  They continue to vote for Republicans at all levels, even though these are the very legislators who cut salaries, eliminate positions, raise retirement and health care contributions, etc.

Why?  Because many are racist or just hate Democrats.  They drink the Kool Aid when GOPers say they will make everything better.

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When it comes to MM's posts, it's best to go with a paraphrase

of the old Reagan adage--Don't trust, verify.

 

...which is a bit of a challenge sometimes because he persists in not revealing his sources.

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lafitte, and anyone else interested--LawrenceA posted about this earlier--to get the date and Full headline of MovieMadness' posts, go to Google, or whatever search engine you prefer, and type the headline just as MM did, with punctuation and all.  The article and date of the article will come up.

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lafitte,and anyone else interested--LawrenceA posted about this earlier--to get the date and Full headline of MovieMadness' posts, go to Google, or whatever search engine you prefer, and type the headline just as MM did, with punctuation and all.  The article and date of the article will come up.

Thanks, I thought he just made it up.

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...which is a bit of a challenge sometimes because he persists in not revealing his sources.

I'm sure that's why he does it, so it can't be traced to see what he

omitted. I first noticed that in the Stupid Science thread. As film lover

says you can usually find the specific article if you google his exact

headline. 

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lafitte,and anyone else interested--LawrenceA posted about this earlier--to get the date and Full headline of MovieMadness' posts, go to Google, or whatever search engine you prefer, and type the headline just as MM did, with punctuation and all.  The article and date of the article will come up.

 

So we must jump through hoops. Considering the source in another way, may be I shouldn't ask too much of a type who thinks science is stupid.

 

:rolleyes:

 

Thanks, 293.

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Poodles are good at that, are they not?

 

I don't know, are they?

 

"Nay, do not think I flatter.

No, let the candied tongue lick absurd pomp,

And crook the pregnant hinges of the knee

Where thrift may follow fawning."

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Dancing in a foreign country with your hosts in their cultural dance is part of respecting another country's culture.

 

If I were president, and considering HOW I dance, my joining in would be seen as anything BUT respectful.  ;)

 

As to voting reasons.....

 

Sure.  I had a father in law like that.  Would vote for the democrat REGARDLESS of who it was. 

 

 

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So we must jump through hoops. Considering the source in another way, may be I shouldn't ask too much of a type who thinks science is stupid.

 

:rolleyes:

 

Thanks, 293.

I have him on ignore so I don't see most of his posts unless they are quoted by someone else.

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I have never thought of science as stupid my whole life. man, I used to love reading books about science as it applies to the natural world when I was a kid. my favorites were the Herbert S. Zim golden guide books. I even took the theory of evolution at face value into my late teens...

 

 

the problem is that today's science advocates rudely, arrogantly and dismissively disregard anyone who has questions. they say they cannot substantively deal with religion and superstition. they insist that we are going to cling to 'that old time religion' no matter what they impart. in short they claim that their detractors are hopelessly ignorant and unreachable.

 

just how open are they to suspending their fixed arbitrary scientific conclusions for the sake of honest debate???

 

I doan see that they are very much.

 

I doan have anyone on ignore. I simply doan think that way. :)

 

 

"fear is normal...but stop thinking about it."  -gregory peck, twelve o'clock high

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Obama retakes oath of office after inauguration stumble

Out of "an abundance of caution", Barack Obama has taken the oath of office a second time because a word was out of sequence when he was sworn in on Tuesday.

 

The surprise move came after Tuesday's much-noticed stumble, when the US supreme court chief justice, John Roberts, jumbled the words, prompting Obama to follow suit.

 

According to the US Constitution, the president must solemnly swear "that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States". But on Tuesday, Obama said: "I will execute the office of president of the United States faithfully."

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This is how it all started out, Obama had to retake the oath of office because they bungled the words together. Another most embarrassing moment in Obama's Presidency.

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Obama retakes oath of office after inauguration stumble

Out of "an abundance of caution", Barack Obama has taken the oath of office a second time because a word was out of sequence when he was sworn in on Tuesday.

 

The surprise move came after Tuesday's much-noticed stumble, when the US supreme court chief justice, John Roberts, jumbled the words, prompting Obama to follow suit.

 

According to the US Constitution, the president must solemnly swear "that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States". But on Tuesday, Obama said: "I will execute the office of president of the United States faithfully."

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This is how it all started out, Obama had to retake the oath of office because they bungled the words together. Another most embarrassing moment in Obama's Presidency.

 

 

You're actually reaching back nine years because of a word stumble by a supreme court justice to take another crack at Obama? That's not even Obama's fault!

 

Why don't you have any comment on Trump blaming Congress for the state of poor relations with Russia today? He doesn't blame Putin or Russian interference in the election for it! He blames Congress because of sanctions to punish Russia for its interference.

 

Just who does Trump represent anyway, his own country which was cyber attacked by a foreign nation (and undoubtedly will be again by that same nation in future elections) or Vladimir Putin? Now that is an embarrassment for the Oval Office to have an occupant who would do that!

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Top 10 Obama Gaffes in his first year

Burns 9,000 Gallons of Jet Fuel on Earth Day

 

Jabs at Special Olympics on Whirlwind TV Tour

 

References Non-Existent "Austrian" Language

 

Fumbles Gift-Giving Exchanges with British Leaders

 

Delivers Muslim "Love Speech" in Cairo
 
Selects Cabinet Nominees With Embarrassing Problems
 
As Commander-In-Chief During Wartime, Arranges Romantic Date Night
 
Bows Deeply to Saudi King Abdullah
 
TelePrompter Overuse Results in Bumbled Oratories
 
Misspells "Advice" in letter to fan
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Why would President Obama bow to a Saudi King? How quickly the world forgets.
 

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Obama Asks for Patience on Economy, Unemployment

President Obama spent his first six months in office arguing that the government needed to move as fast as possible to save the economy. But now, while he still favors aggressive government action, he is increasingly emphasizing the politics of patience as he tries to maintain the support and trust of the American people.

 

It's unclear whether this will work, because polls show mounting anxiety about Obama's policies. These include his $787 billion stimulus package, which has not had a huge impact so far, and, more broadly, the vast spending that has pushed the federal deficit to the unprecedented level of more than $1 trillion this year.

 

What seems most unsettling to voters is that unemployment keeps going up. It is now at 9.5 percent, the highest in more than 25 years, and the rate is expected to climb to 10 or 11 percent in the next few months. Obama advisers had predicted that his stimulus package would hold unemployment at or below 8 percent.

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At the six-month mark in Obama's presidency, unemployment was still going up, and Obama had no answers for any of it. The "stimulus" package was a lie, it was suppose to hold down unemployment and it did the opposite. Compare that to today with Trump as President, where we have a growing economy and improving jobs growth.

 

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MovieMadness--One misspelling from Obama is NOTHING compared to all of Trump's misspellings in his Twittering Tweets; or Dan Quayle (remember him?) misspelling potato at a spelling bee he was visiting.

 

"POTATO...E"

 

Trumps' cabinet nominees/appointments haven't been spotless in their private life; Obama never nominated a wifebeater; Trump did (Andy Puzder, Secretary of Labor nominee).

 

Trump curtseyed to Saudi king on May 20th, 2017.  Why would Trump curtsy to an Arab leader?  Time to re-ask that question for forgetful posters.

 

The Austrian people would disagree with you about their language being "Non-Existent". According to Google, official languages of Austria include;  Austrian-German, Slovenian, Hungarian, and German.  Austrian DIALECTS include: Central Austro-Bavarian (spoken in northern Austria, including Vienna),  Southern Austro-Bavarian, etc.  Check Wikipedia.

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MovieMadness--The bad economic news was due to the Recession Obama inherited from George W. Bush, a REPUBLICAN President.  Your selective memory is showing, MM.

 

Not to mention the fact that Trump inherited an increasingly healthy economy thanks to Obama. Trump just had a July jobs count at a little more than a million for his first six months. That is good but it is also continuing the trend from Obama, who had more than 2 million jobs added to the economy last year.

 

Donald Trump didn't inherit an economy that was a mess, as he likes to say. It was Barack Obama who was in that position in 2008.

 

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Not to mention the fact that Trump inherited an increasingly healthy economy thanks to Obama. Trump just had a July jobs count at a little more than a million for his first six months. That is good but it is also continuing the trend from Obama, who had more than 2 million jobs added to the economy last year.

 

Donald Trump didn't inherit an economy that was a mess, as he likes to say. It was Barack Obama who was in that position in 2008.

 

 

Don't forget his taking credit for the jobs that are coming under his administration that were already in the works BEFORE he took office.

 

And if HYPERBOLE could be bottled, he could clear up the deficit in NO time!   I never saw the ACA as a "disaster" , nor heard anyone gnashing their teeth because it's a "nightmare!"   In fact, I don't personally know ANYONE who's had any problems as a result.

 

Sure, it's not perfect, but what government program IS?

 

 

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Not to mention the fact that Trump inherited an increasingly healthy economy thanks to Obama. Trump just had a July jobs count at a little more than a million for his first six months. That is good but it is also continuing the trend from Obama, who had more than 2 million jobs added to the economy last year.

 

Donald Trump didn't inherit an economy that was a mess, as he likes to say. It was Barack Obama who was in that position in 2008.

 

 

On the contrary, Tom. IF say you unfortunately lived in West Virginia and were dumb enough to not only continue to live in what was once a thriving coal mining state after those jobs had ceased to exist and thus fail to move to another part of this country and to where the jobs went, but ALSO dumb enough to believe Donny Boy when he told ya he was going to bring back all those coal mining jobs there...well, wouldn't YOU think the economy really sucked under Obama TOO?!!!

 

LOL

 

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On the contrary, Tom. IF say you unfortunately lived in West Virginia and were dumb enough to not only continue to live in what was once a thriving coal mining state after those jobs had ceased to exist, but ALSO dumb enough to believe Donny Boy when he told ya he was going to bring back all those jobs there...well, wouldn't YOU think the economy really sucked under Obama TOO?!!!

 

LOL

 

;)

 

Maybe that's it. Maybe Movie Madness comes from an area like West Virginia and has a West Virginian-type perspective when he says the economy tanked under Obama.

 

That's a tad parochial, though, when it comes to an overall appraisal of the economy under the previous President, wouldn't you say?

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Maybe that's it. Maybe Movie Madness comes from an area like West Virginia and has a West Virginian-type perspective when he says the economy tanked under Obama.

 

That's a tad parochial, though, when it comes to an overall appraisal of the economy under the previous President, wouldn't you say?

 

Well, OF COURSE I'd say that that sort of mindset was "parochial", Tom ol' boy!

 

(...but then AGAIN, I hope you know that Republicans IN GENERAL have had a "parochial" mindset since Nixon's "Southern Strategy" started workin' in their favor, doncha?!) 

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Well, OF COURSE I'd say that that sort of mindset was "parochial", Tom ol' boy!

 

(...but then AGAIN, I hope you know that Republicans IN GENERAL have had a "parochial" mindset since Nixon's "Southern Strategy" started workin' in their favor, doncha?!) 

 

Another parochial mindset is that the President has much of an impact on the economy.    Yes,  "Trump inherited an increasingly healthy economy",  but it wasn't "thanks to Obama".

 

E.g. the CA economy has been improving;   is that;  thanks to Jerry Brown?  Kansas is in the dumps is that thanks to Brownback?  I.e.  what percentage of influence is given to the President verses the a governor or state legislature? 

 

Of course the policies of the Fed (e.g. the Federal Reserve chairperson),   influence the economy,  but other than the Infrastructure spending bill (which I gave a C- grade to),  and Dodd \ Frank, passed in 2010, the Feds didn't pass much legislation that had a direct impact on the economy (e.g. Fed tax reform,  major changes to budget allocations etc,,,).    In fact Dodd \ Frank was a drag on the economy (this type of reform always is even when necessary and well meaning). 

 

To claim that the President is the primary reason for healthily economic indicators (GNP grown, which is still 'weak'),  unemployment rate,   inflation rate,   stock market results,   corporate profit ratios (which are very high),   etc...  is folly,  and partisan (e.g.  typical rhetoric: "the good things are because the President is from OUR party and the bad things,,,  well the prior President from the OTHER party are to blame for those")!

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