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Amazon key, Alexa, etc. ....

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BBC BusinessVerified account @BBCBusiness 1h1 hour ago

 
 

On #BBCBizLive: Amazon announces a new service to unlock your front door - would you give a courier access to avoid a missed delivery?

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Amazon Key is Silicon Valley at its most out-of-touch

"......It may come as a surprise to those who are willing to live in Google’s parking lot and drink Soylent meal replacement instead of eating real food, but some of us care about more than just convenience. ....

 

....Yes, I do value convenient deliveries, but I value my security more — better to strategize around postal schedules than be assaulted by a person hiding in one’s home! And while I dislike rained-upon packages, I prioritize privacy enough that I’m loath to install a corporate-controlled surveillance apparatus inside my house.

New technologies are often packaged as amenities we shouldn’t have to live without, and any trade-offs are made to seem meager in the face of potential comfort.

But there’s more to life than convenience — maybe someone should let Silicon Valley know."

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/10/25/amazon-key-is-silicon-valley-at-its-most-out-of-touch/?utm_term=.f2707fc80e56&tid=sm_tw

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I agree, as I have alluded to in several other threads, it's gone too far.  Way too far.  And it makes some people feel warm and fuzzy: "oh wow...just for me, they think of everything".

So what's to say the databases and live users for these delivery services don't get crossed with the Pokemon Go users, due to ahem...  some silly hacker.  Remember all the cell phone users who were wandering around playing the Pokemon Go game together and ended up trespassing on private property, in numbers?  "Oh boy, this door...it is unlocked!".

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Saw a news clip on this "service."  What about the person who is in your home and doesn't know Amazon has permission to enter at will?  Do they get scared, call police or just get a gun and shoot the intruder?

Of course the main feature is that whatever Amazon creates, multitudes can hack into it.  Not to mention disgruntled or criminal Amazon employees who take advantage of it.

Of course, you could enroll with the system, have a delivery and then report to Amazon that your grandmother's $75,000 diamond ring is missing and it was there when you left home.  Or the Amazon delivery person attacked you while you were in the bath.

Far fetched?  Yeah, but this is the new America.

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Need-to-knows before buying Google Home or Amazon Echo

Make sure you consider the uses, pitfalls, and privacy issues before buying a voice-controlled assistant this year

"I f you've seen the commercials, you know that Google Home and Amazon Echo – the sleek, voice-activated home assistants that do everything from turn off your lights to read your kids a story – are being touted as the smartest things since sliced bread. With their kid-targeted games, activities, books, and even homework help, what parent wouldn't want one of these devices to replace screens and make life run more smoothly?

But as many early adopters have come to realize, it takes work to make them useful. Otherwise, you're the proud owner of a very expensive kitchen timer. And as with any artificial intelligence (AI) technology that "learns" your habits, the gains may not be as great as what you give up to use it. Find out what these devices can do, how well they work, and what the privacy issues are before you introduce one into your house. ....

Should I worry about privacy? Absolutely. The privacy and security issues related to these devices are complex, evolving, and potentially very serious (and cannot all be covered in this article). If you have an Amazon or Google account, you've already accepted some of the privacy risks of online life. With Alexa and Home, the same companies that track what you buy, what you watch, where you go online, and even your contacts are right there in your home. And they're listening. .....

https://www.salon.com/2017/11/24/need-to-knows-before-buying-google-home-or-amazon-echo_partner/

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Stealing packages has gotten so bad in the area where I live that no matter how the package is delivered--

 I go to the  delivery office for pick-up.

 It's more of a hassle; but if the package is stolen, nobody  takes responsibility for it.

Criminals actually follow the delivery trucks and wait till they leave and then come up on your porch and take the packages.

Drones won't be able to do anything to help that.

 Amazon coming into your home is trying to solve this problem. But I wouldn't feel comfortable with it. I think you're actually opening yourself up to more problems with criminality.

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16 hours ago, Princess of Tap said:

Stealing packages has gotten so bad in the area where I live that no matter how the package is delivered--

 I go to the  delivery office for pick-up.

 It's more of a hassle; but if the package is stolen, nobody  takes responsibility for it.

Criminals actually follow the delivery trucks and wait till they leave and then come up on your porch and take the packages.

Drones won't be able to do anything to help that.

 Amazon coming into your home is trying to solve this problem. But I wouldn't feel comfortable with it. I think you're actually opening yourself up to more problems with criminality.

I do not patronize Amazon, but if I did I sure would not give them the "key" to my front door.  I have serious concerns about their ability and willingness to hire truly secure personnel for this service.  After all, their primary business model is doing things cheaper than any of their competitors.

I have discovered that I can ship things via UPS at my local hardware store.  Seems to me a better model would be for Amazon, et. al. to coordinate with local retail stores as pick-up locations. 

As for having packages delivered to work site, after 9-11, my employer prohibited any personal shipments to the work site.  They would be refused at the door.

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7 hours ago, TheCid said:

I do not patronize Amazon, but if I did I sure would not give them the "key" to my front door.  I have serious concerns about their ability and willingness to hire truly secure personnel for this service.  After all, their primary business model is doing things cheaper than any of their competitors.

I have discovered that I can ship things via UPS at my local hardware store.  Seems to me a better model would be for Amazon, et. al. to coordinate with local retail stores as pick-up locations. 

As for having packages delivered to work site, after 9-11, my employer prohibited any personal shipments to the work site.  They would be refused at the door.

Or perhaps grab some of that empty retail space left vacant all over the country and open package depots where customers can pick up their shipments. That could potentially revitalize retail areas as patrons would stop by other nearby locations while they were out, not to mention the additional jobs these depots would bring. It could help rehabilitate Amazon's image in communities that resent their decimation of retail business.

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5 hours ago, LawrenceA said:

Or perhaps grab some of that empty retail space left vacate all over the country and open package depots where customers can pick up their shipments. That could potentially revitalize retail areas as patrons would stop by other nearby locations while they were out, not to mention the additional jobs these depots would bring. It could help rehabilitate Amazon's image in communities that resent their decimation of retail business.

An even better idea.

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5 hours ago, LawrenceA said:

Or perhaps grab some of that empty retail space left vacate all over the country and open package depots where customers can pick up their shipments. That could potentially revitalize retail areas as patrons would stop by other nearby locations while they were out, not to mention the additional jobs these depots would bring. It could help rehabilitate Amazon's image in communities that resent their decimation of retail business.

I pick up my packages at FedEx, which is fairly close to me.

However, the last time I was there, the manager told me that I would be able to pick up packages at an even closer strip mall because FedEx was now coordinating a drop -off service with Walgreens. What do you think of that?

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18 hours ago, Princess of Tap said:

I pick up my packages at FedEx, which is fairly close to me.

However, the last time I was there, the manager told me that I would be able to pick up packages at an even closer strip mall because FedEx was now coordinating a drop -off service with Walgreens. What do you think of that?

Sounds good to me.  As I commented, my local (3 miles away) hardware store is a drop off location for UPS.  Don't know about pick-up.  Actually most of my mail order items come via US Postal Service.  Some of them even begin their trip via UPS or FedEx, but then get delivered to my local PO for delivery to my home.

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that's the idea I tried pushing in the 'Alexa' thread...

we're trading privacy & security for convenience & speed

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Robert MaguireVerified account @RobertMaguire_ 3h3 hours ago

 
 

Turns out Facebook is a great place not just for sketchy political ads, but also links to known scams and malware https://www.propublica.org/article/facebook-political-ads-malware-scams-misleading 

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